Our Ongoing Grows
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Today I have uncovered another worm infestation in my plants, selectively harvesting the tops that are affected =\
They burrow into the stems...when you crack the stems open they come running out to defend their 'home'
These are small little buggers too. It is terrible, SNS 209 doesn't work, and I do not want to foliar drench my buds. Luckily only 1/3 of my plants seem to be affected, but then again, they are small and hard to find. One tiny necrotic spot leads into an internal cavity of gunky wormy shit. This always happens when I have such a fruity, pungent, and dank plant growing
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Relaxed I was just looking at your pic's. Them don't look like loupers to me. Not swearing to it but they look more like some boreing worms of somesort. I can be wrong but a check into stem boring worms. Like corn borers or squash borers. That abit different than cabbage butterfly larva. They do have a predatory wasp you can use on them. They are unltra small wasps that lay eggs in the eggs of caterpiller which are their food supply till they hatch to new wasps. Something like 40$ will treat a acre that's like 4000 wasp eggs. Yea you are aways to far to do anything about them. Just do a slective harvest of the uneffected buds. Bummer. These loupers lay ontop of the buds and mainly eat leaf material. They will hide in a bud once awhile, but they sure aren't as nasty as what you have. GL and I'll post again in awhile Thanks for the nice comments about these girls. They are sure pretty that's for sure.
Hodder welcome. Till then Keepem Green
Hodder welcome. Till then Keepem Green
If you didn't notice I mentioned I have been using SNS-209 and it basically does nothing to these guys.
Yeah imo these are a special breed of boring/burrowing worms can (imo) reproduce at an early age, which makes them even more of a pest. I needed to post pics to illustrate just how bad these fucking things are. IF I could just grow, dry, cure buds that didn't have worms trying to burrow in. GAHH!!
In addition to SNS-209, which might be slightly helping... since they claim that rosemary aromatics tend to deter insects in general. Only 1/3 of my plants are affected yet all getting same dosages. I think the worms wait until the buds get nice and tighty, and dense, and then they go to town. So since I have a huge rosemary bush in the backyard that has so much oil I could make rosemary hash, I trimmed it down and strategically placed rosemary branches around the plants, and in the base of the pots.
All I can rely on now is the hope that some how, some way, the rosemary will ward off the evil-doings of these bastards. Literally these things are straight out of 1)Worms Armageddon 2) Starship Troopers 3) Tremors
Was planning on harvesting in 4 weeks, but going to start flushing and monitoring week by week.Harvested several tops already. Hoping that spiritually the rosemary dispersed around keeps them away.
All I can rely on now is the hope that some how, some way, the rosemary will ward off the evil-doings of these bastards. Literally these things are straight out of 1)Worms Armageddon 2) Starship Troopers 3) Tremors
Was planning on harvesting in 4 weeks, but going to start flushing and monitoring week by week.Harvested several tops already. Hoping that spiritually the rosemary dispersed around keeps them away.
Oh.... sorry.... Looked, and didn't read.... stoned.... I'm going away now.
Isn't my ole man great----he sure keeps me working and still tells me how to do it.i just love watching and working with all these plants-i call them billy's girls. I am so lucky to be learning from him and he's a hoot also... And a big hug to oldmedman i just think you are great-----janet
Hey Girl, you can't kid me Billy works yo butt off! I can't imagine the number of plants you've trimmed for him.....of course you do get to smoke a bit of each one too!
He he! I still remember that plant you kept FIMing and FIMing that was your own "Big Girl"'
Glad you two are still doing your thing. Ahhhhh you wining any thing at the Casino? Or should I ask about that?
A big hug back Miss J.
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Well I had to do alittle checking before I opened my mouth too much. Back in the old days before I got tunnel vision I use to study insects, mainly butterflies and moths. Even had a collection from all around the world back in the late 60's But I was pretty close. C'orn borers'. Least what I see. The adults are those little yellow tan moths about 1" you see at night. They lay a cluster of eggs on the leafs.They start early after hatching and eat lots of small holes in your leaf. The ones I have eat whole leafs. Which makes it easy to find the buggers. Then after acouple weeks they start making little holes in your stems. Some look like a spiderweb over the hole.Inside they eat the 'pith' of the stem, After living in there awhile they form a area called a gall. Kind of lump in the stem. This cut the flow to the branch above. Might have strated to wilt the upper leaves and buds. Besides the material the worm eats can get infected with molds and fungi like bud rot or pm. Even other pests are attacked to the necrotic area. But isn't anything wrong with most of the plant. Scary worms huh? Make sure you destory all them stalks and infected spots. I've tried a SNS product to no avail myself on pm. Not to say it doesn't work. I mean I've worked with all the organic stuff and some have half assed results no none. Neem will make you leaf taste like crap to them. It's alittle late to worry now Relaxed. But look into Spinosad next year. It's nontoxic to all and it kills worms. Safe around everything including humans just dont pour it on buds you plan to smoke within acouple weeks. Just got to get them before they bore in. I read somewhere about trying to find the holes or making one about them and injecting whatever you deside to try in to kill them. Maybe a syringe and inject right next to a worm to see if the produce really works. Another thing is garlic. I know alot of old timers that swear by garlic..... Galic kind of repels night time moths, which are the culprits caring the eggs in, if it is a corn borer. Another thing that could help is one of them insect zappers. Blue or ultraviolet work best for nightime moths. It can be a pain growing outside. Did you use neem at all? Neem is great stuff. I'd say the best natural all around stuff on the market. Any of the horticultural oils seem to work. But most use neem so I figgure it's got to be about the best stuff. I've use pepper, garlic, sesame, oils. But these make the leafs taste like shit to caterpillers.
I know afew other things I can find out about for next year for ya.
Pop's thanks. Your right Pop's, She is 'Special' Together we have lost count of how many ladies we've turned out. And just to give her credit, my feet are going bad. Makes it hard to walk even on carpet anymore. Miss J picks up alot of my slack. But I can still rememeber damn near every plant I've grown. And man them Casino's are cold blooded as always. Hopefully Miss J will start looking into a trip out that way. You know her first thoughts? Who's going to be trustwrothy enough to depend on, the care for the kids? I'd never grow automated. Floods happen. I've seen acouple dandy floods. I guess that's why I stay alittle gunshy with the hydro setups.
'Miss J you are the best'
Change subjects,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that OG, I didn't think shed fair this well here in the weather. And another Shocking thing,,,,,, weather man calls clear skys for maybe another 2 week. WOW. I'll update and check afew sites in abit. Hope all are growing green out there. Keepem Green
I know afew other things I can find out about for next year for ya.
Pop's thanks. Your right Pop's, She is 'Special' Together we have lost count of how many ladies we've turned out. And just to give her credit, my feet are going bad. Makes it hard to walk even on carpet anymore. Miss J picks up alot of my slack. But I can still rememeber damn near every plant I've grown. And man them Casino's are cold blooded as always. Hopefully Miss J will start looking into a trip out that way. You know her first thoughts? Who's going to be trustwrothy enough to depend on, the care for the kids? I'd never grow automated. Floods happen. I've seen acouple dandy floods. I guess that's why I stay alittle gunshy with the hydro setups.
'Miss J you are the best'
Change subjects,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that OG, I didn't think shed fair this well here in the weather. And another Shocking thing,,,,,, weather man calls clear skys for maybe another 2 week. WOW. I'll update and check afew sites in abit. Hope all are growing green out there. Keepem Green
Wow good call on the corn borers. I believe we're getting down to the nitty gritty of this issue. And I thank you for passing on your knowledge to me. I will look into spinosad/neem oils for next years crop, I was apprehensive because of being right next to the beach, but oils should'nt promote pm, or fungus I wouldn't think. I was also thinking about jacking up the dosage on the SNS-209. I think maybe if I just start spraying the foliage early on(with the oils) even before flowering and consistently, I may be able to combat them. The problem with "gumming the hole" or "injecting something" is that the holes are too small, and may be too hard to find.
I dis-infected/selective harvest / salvaged some buds, while th remainder finishes. I'm going to hide Rosemary branches in the trees to hopefully repel them the egg-layers out of the general areas.
Thank you so much Norcaliwood! You've made me feel less alone on such a gnarly issue.
I sent a request for friendship as well.
BTW your plants are gorgeous!
~RL
I dis-infected/selective harvest / salvaged some buds, while th remainder finishes. I'm going to hide Rosemary branches in the trees to hopefully repel them the egg-layers out of the general areas.
Thank you so much Norcaliwood! You've made me feel less alone on such a gnarly issue.
I sent a request for friendship as well.
BTW your plants are gorgeous!
~RL
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Relaxed Lee the oils will help prevent PM issiues. I use a product called Organicide. It's a for both bugs and fungus. Check it out. Organic Laboratories, Inc. Pretty economic too. Works on alot of bugs mites etc also. Of course a garden hose and a bottle of Safer's Soap works on alot of problems. Man Safer's, I've used it forever. Spray till soaked and dripping wait afew and blast off the bugs. Man that's one thing I love about being outside, the hose. What I do is spray when I put mine into flower inside and then once more like 7-10 days after flower. Works for me. Outdoors I'd spray up to 2 weeks after flowering starts. Myself I figgure it will dissipate within the next 6 weeks. Besides it's just on the fan leaves, and all the new growth and flowers won't be exposed to it. Besides it won't hurt ya anyways, alittle residual. Might taste like shit if ya spray with in 3 weeks of harvest. Thanks for the compliments on the buds. I'm kind of proud of them myself.
Well I got some news tonite. I had a sample bud off that Special Queen plant, well found 4 seed in her. This is the one I Pollenated with Bubba. But this wasn't 'that' branch. I covered that branch with a envolpe and then sprayed it with water after acouple days to nutralize the pollen. Makes me wonder where she got knocked up at. Sometimes I think these little girls sneak out at nite with thier bf's. But this one hadn't. I found where I trimed her from and she's the bud that wood've rubbed across the pollenated one, so it's all good. Up to 4 seeds now and haven't cut the bud I did seed. Special Bubba is born.
Temps are starting to drop outside. I had to turn the fan down to 30% and the room runs at 78 degrees. Tomarrow I should get my new toy. Miss J will too. She burnt up the last dremel she had, so I got her another. She's never used a whip before so I got one of them too. She likes to sand on the plants stocks making canes and pipes. And mine is that Master Blaster and bulb. A after though which will come a day after is called Super Spreader. Kind of like a hopspot defuser but it's really geared more for spreading lite out alittle more evenly. That bulb has 206,000 lumms. Thats alot to be spread. Cover a 7'X7' square without a rail going. I'm sure glad I did alittle over kill on the lights. XXXL Magnums are great hood. I 'may' be upgrading the hood in my 4X4 also. Now I have a 600 watter in a sun soaker 24" unit for now. Hey it does its job in there. It's just others do a better job. 3 hoods come to my mind. Block Buster 6" hood. It's a 'square hood' 23"x23" I think, or maybe the Radiant 6", last not least at all, more prob than not on this one, Adjust a Wings medium. Them Adjust a Wings are suppose to be the shit 'IF' you have no plans on forced air cooling.
Also bird in the hand beats two in the bush,,,,, OG Kush is cut and going to try to reveg her. I left as much small leaves as I could find on her and cut her back to a nub. We'll see how long it takes now to get over all the curling of leaves and strange growth patterns. We all also going to cut the Special Queen plant. I just put her in for her 24-36 darkness cycle. I still don't know if it helps, but it doesn't seem to hurt it. Well I need new batteries in the camera and I'll get some updates. Berkley Blue is strange colored. Like a rusty purple. She isn't going to be a big producer. The secondary buds have no size or wieght to them. The tops buds will probley be like 2-3 grams each. But man she looks wet in the mornings. And it isn't dew. Till then Keepem Green
Well I got some news tonite. I had a sample bud off that Special Queen plant, well found 4 seed in her. This is the one I Pollenated with Bubba. But this wasn't 'that' branch. I covered that branch with a envolpe and then sprayed it with water after acouple days to nutralize the pollen. Makes me wonder where she got knocked up at. Sometimes I think these little girls sneak out at nite with thier bf's. But this one hadn't. I found where I trimed her from and she's the bud that wood've rubbed across the pollenated one, so it's all good. Up to 4 seeds now and haven't cut the bud I did seed. Special Bubba is born.
Temps are starting to drop outside. I had to turn the fan down to 30% and the room runs at 78 degrees. Tomarrow I should get my new toy. Miss J will too. She burnt up the last dremel she had, so I got her another. She's never used a whip before so I got one of them too. She likes to sand on the plants stocks making canes and pipes. And mine is that Master Blaster and bulb. A after though which will come a day after is called Super Spreader. Kind of like a hopspot defuser but it's really geared more for spreading lite out alittle more evenly. That bulb has 206,000 lumms. Thats alot to be spread. Cover a 7'X7' square without a rail going. I'm sure glad I did alittle over kill on the lights. XXXL Magnums are great hood. I 'may' be upgrading the hood in my 4X4 also. Now I have a 600 watter in a sun soaker 24" unit for now. Hey it does its job in there. It's just others do a better job. 3 hoods come to my mind. Block Buster 6" hood. It's a 'square hood' 23"x23" I think, or maybe the Radiant 6", last not least at all, more prob than not on this one, Adjust a Wings medium. Them Adjust a Wings are suppose to be the shit 'IF' you have no plans on forced air cooling.
Also bird in the hand beats two in the bush,,,,, OG Kush is cut and going to try to reveg her. I left as much small leaves as I could find on her and cut her back to a nub. We'll see how long it takes now to get over all the curling of leaves and strange growth patterns. We all also going to cut the Special Queen plant. I just put her in for her 24-36 darkness cycle. I still don't know if it helps, but it doesn't seem to hurt it. Well I need new batteries in the camera and I'll get some updates. Berkley Blue is strange colored. Like a rusty purple. She isn't going to be a big producer. The secondary buds have no size or wieght to them. The tops buds will probley be like 2-3 grams each. But man she looks wet in the mornings. And it isn't dew. Till then Keepem Green
Hey buddy! Good luck on the OG reveg. I tried the Adjust-a-wings, with spreaders, and liked them - but I had a slightly difficult time with temps so ended up going with aircooled hoods. I was bummed though, because the Adjust a Wings seemed to spread the light very evenly. I liked them and really wanted them to work for me. But, my tent's pretty small, and I was trying to do 2 of them... Special Bubba sounds like it could be a good one!
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I hear ya Xlr sometimes you need that air cooled. In a tent it's damn near a must. Special Bubba could be a winner who knows. She has good genetics. I have acouple pic's of the mother;
And;
Also acouple quick pic's of Cripit. Man these are solid little buds;
Not going to be a big yield but I have 10 of them growing. I took some clones off her but they didn't seem to want to root so I took them out and put the cutting directly in dirt. We'll see;
One of th plants in the back ground on that pic is a cripit I spent alittle time topping etc. And the new sun came in. 206,000 lums closest to sun I've found;
Ok I'll update in awhile Keepem Green
And;
Also acouple quick pic's of Cripit. Man these are solid little buds;
Not going to be a big yield but I have 10 of them growing. I took some clones off her but they didn't seem to want to root so I took them out and put the cutting directly in dirt. We'll see;
One of th plants in the back ground on that pic is a cripit I spent alittle time topping etc. And the new sun came in. 206,000 lums closest to sun I've found;
Ok I'll update in awhile Keepem Green
miwa
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Next time..wet down the part you don't want pollinated...or wet right after pollinating..spraying a couple days later don't work...just my 1 and 1/2 cents...don't have two...ain't that crazy..i know whats suppose to be done and still can't doit..grow on Wood...you're doing great...
Hey Wood, is that pre 98 bubba Kush?
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thanks Miwa. We learn as we grow,,,,,, Yea I've heard that alot. Seems the water didn't help. I did spray the bud as soon as I took off the 'bag'. But It was still viable after getting soaked. Only way except maybe a run away grain of pollen? And that is possible that happened well I applied the pollen. Wasn't any air movement, and I did it real fast. But seem some pollen found her. It's not but one more bud. And she had 4 seed. So really I'm kind of glad. But I did spray the hell out of it. One thing about water is it keeps the pollen from flying around on the wind. Makes it precipitate to the floor or dirt. I'm a thinking it was just pollinated from rubbing the bud net to it. Maybe the water kills a % of it?
Hey they did right on the seeds. They sent me some Moby Dick, and a Bubbleicious. Plus afew more extra I wasn't counting on. 3 regular seed. One which might have some potential in my attemps at seed. From Holy Smoke seed. It's a pure Africian Sativa Landrace Strain called Malawi Gold. I really don't want to grow this plant. It's a pretty unaceptable plant for Oregon with a up to 12 week flowering period, so I'm hoping for a male. I've been looking for some really fast strains and the Cripit being 100% indica and the Malawi Gold sativa maybe I can find a good mother out of the F 1's to try out. Hell I have enough plans going right now but I do plan on collecting some pollen from any males I get that I'm sure of the genetics. Pollen lasts for more than a year if ya treat it right. Hell that Bubba Kush pollen was stored for 4 or 5 months in foil in the garage. And was still good. And if I didn't throw it away, it might still be. But proper storage will help. Freezer time. With a bag of rice around it should do it fine. Or them things in pills bottles silica something? Besides someone else might even need alittle pollen for their libary. They also sent a regular Holy Smoke Zambezi which has some indica in it. Like 20%, even it wood be a great cross to work with. Hell if I ever want to work with the sativa's the third freebie regular works also It's from the same Holy Smoke called Drakensberg another Africian cross that's suppose to be a big yielder. But she has a 14 week flower time. I have nothing against longer flowering infact I love some good sativa, but anything that takes that long generaly will get PM issiues around here.
Now to me around here this one sounds great World Seeds Afghan Kush Special. Fast Indica of 6-8 weeks. And I'd bet under this new light I can hit the faster end. Least I'm a hoping. LOL I got another Dinafem Cheese. Auto tho. Oh well the last one I grew out was great pot. She had a high ratio of leaves to flower, but the sugar leaves are as good as the flowers. She had more crystals than any other plant I've grow in the last 5 years or so. I got acouple SLH seed from Green House. And last I got my Vantage. And that's going to be the next strain I start I think. That and posiabley Bubbleicous. I made out ok on these. Least I get another shot at Moby Dick and Bubbleicious. And I feel they did right.
Weatherman claims good weather outdoors. Now I'm really for a cold snap, as soon as I get the crops in. Then I can fire up the lite. Thats one big ass ballast for being digital this Master Blaster. Hey ANYONE anyone out there ever try Shooting Powder? Not drugs for you hard core's. But this from House and Garden. Shooting Powder
I think Pitt use to use these fert's. But it sounds get. One time feeding, like 3 weeks before harvest. It's suppose to retrigger the flowering cycle. And grow new flowers right over the cycle that is slowing down. 30% increase posiable. They, the salesman, can sure make a product sound great can't they? Just read any seed advertisement and I garrentee you will drool. But I've heard this stuff is real and works. Wow I've posted more the last week than I have the last 2 months. Ok I'm otta here Keepem Green
Hey they did right on the seeds. They sent me some Moby Dick, and a Bubbleicious. Plus afew more extra I wasn't counting on. 3 regular seed. One which might have some potential in my attemps at seed. From Holy Smoke seed. It's a pure Africian Sativa Landrace Strain called Malawi Gold. I really don't want to grow this plant. It's a pretty unaceptable plant for Oregon with a up to 12 week flowering period, so I'm hoping for a male. I've been looking for some really fast strains and the Cripit being 100% indica and the Malawi Gold sativa maybe I can find a good mother out of the F 1's to try out. Hell I have enough plans going right now but I do plan on collecting some pollen from any males I get that I'm sure of the genetics. Pollen lasts for more than a year if ya treat it right. Hell that Bubba Kush pollen was stored for 4 or 5 months in foil in the garage. And was still good. And if I didn't throw it away, it might still be. But proper storage will help. Freezer time. With a bag of rice around it should do it fine. Or them things in pills bottles silica something? Besides someone else might even need alittle pollen for their libary. They also sent a regular Holy Smoke Zambezi which has some indica in it. Like 20%, even it wood be a great cross to work with. Hell if I ever want to work with the sativa's the third freebie regular works also It's from the same Holy Smoke called Drakensberg another Africian cross that's suppose to be a big yielder. But she has a 14 week flower time. I have nothing against longer flowering infact I love some good sativa, but anything that takes that long generaly will get PM issiues around here.
Now to me around here this one sounds great World Seeds Afghan Kush Special. Fast Indica of 6-8 weeks. And I'd bet under this new light I can hit the faster end. Least I'm a hoping. LOL I got another Dinafem Cheese. Auto tho. Oh well the last one I grew out was great pot. She had a high ratio of leaves to flower, but the sugar leaves are as good as the flowers. She had more crystals than any other plant I've grow in the last 5 years or so. I got acouple SLH seed from Green House. And last I got my Vantage. And that's going to be the next strain I start I think. That and posiabley Bubbleicous. I made out ok on these. Least I get another shot at Moby Dick and Bubbleicious. And I feel they did right.
Weatherman claims good weather outdoors. Now I'm really for a cold snap, as soon as I get the crops in. Then I can fire up the lite. Thats one big ass ballast for being digital this Master Blaster. Hey ANYONE anyone out there ever try Shooting Powder? Not drugs for you hard core's. But this from House and Garden. Shooting Powder
I think Pitt use to use these fert's. But it sounds get. One time feeding, like 3 weeks before harvest. It's suppose to retrigger the flowering cycle. And grow new flowers right over the cycle that is slowing down. 30% increase posiable. They, the salesman, can sure make a product sound great can't they? Just read any seed advertisement and I garrentee you will drool. But I've heard this stuff is real and works. Wow I've posted more the last week than I have the last 2 months. Ok I'm otta here Keepem Green
Hey Wood,
How i can get ahold of some Cripit and Crippled Rhino seeds?
i've been reading
How i can get ahold of some Cripit and Crippled Rhino seeds?
i've been reading
miwa
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Shooting Powder huh...all these enhanser ..MJ is going the same route the meat and vegges went with all the growth hormones...i'm leary of food from the market...now i'll be scared to smoke...other than my own...need to get back to organic..take the chickens out of the cages...oh yeah...Wood..this is my harvest month...can my females still get pollenated ???
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