Using Cannabis To Reduce Or Replace Opiod Drugs

[Buzzer777]

I was taking Oxycodone under a Doctor's care, for over 10 years for Chronic pain. Hadn't used Cannabis for 35 yrs due to the strict laws that Were in effect. Got my MMJ card last year and proceeded to wean myself off the Oxy...got sick as hell, but it was worth it.
Interesting that the Oxy was only partially effective for me, but MMJ has been over 95% effective in re-leaving my pain.
As long as I stay medicated...pain does not return!!!

I have recently begun a small grow to keep expenses down. Spent over 1k USD on my setup, but, the ROI will be fantastic..wish me luck!

 

[SweetSue]

I was taking Oxycodone under a Doctor's care, for over 10 years for Chronic pain. Hadn't used Cannabis for 35 yrs due to the strict laws that Were in effect. Got my MMJ card last year and proceeded to wean myself off the Oxy...got sick as hell, but it was worth it.
Interesting that the Oxy was only partially effective for me, but MMJ has been over 95% effective in re-leaving my pain.
As long as I stay medicated...pain does not return!!!

I have recently begun a small grow to keep expenses down. Spent over 1k USD on my setup, but, the ROI will be fantastic..wish me luck!

Thank you for the share Buzzer. Every testimony we get increases the likelihood that another visitor will take heart and give cannabis a try. The pain modulation one can expect from our favorite plant is astounding when it's you that feels it. We've been seriously misled about opioids. That have their place, and it's not in long-term use.

I project you'll be pleased with the ROI. What price is too much for effective healing? Cannabis not only modulates pain expression, it heals at a cellular level.

May I ask, what method do you use for administration? Have you explored making oil and using that as an edible, possibly in capsule form? This allows for a more easily regulated cannabinoid presence system-wide and appears to do much more than inhallation to control other symptoms like anxiety and depression.

We've developed a method in the Study Hall that potentiates the oil so you can get up to 90% bioavailability versus the standard 12-20% one can expect from a typical edible. Stop by and check us out if this interests you. Ask about the BioBombs.

Best of luck on the grow. Do you have any CBD-dominants in there? They do much for reduction of inflammation, and have less euphoria expression than the THC-dominants.

 

[Buzzer777]

Hi Sue:
I am an oldie, but Goldie (LOL)..
We Only had MJ and Hash back in the day...I still savor the taste of MMJ and Concentrates.
I presently either smoke or dab (concentrates that is); I make my own Rosin and did not get relief from Edibles unfortunately. CBDs just do not help me at all, but THC does for sure...Took about 10 days of steady usage, before I was indeed helped.
Those plants will be my savor, so I am confident I will benefit from the grow...We used to simply toss seeds back then and a lot of them took...Never heard of buying seeds until recently..($10-20 per feminized seed...OUCH)
So far my germination rate of success is like 100% Practiced on a bagseed I found in my MMJ, so I was ready for the primo seeds!
So much has changed, to my liking too:

Regards,
Buzzer777

 

[Canyon]

Forgot to mention I'm willing to share what I've done, how I've dealt with extremely stressful situations, what keeps me pushing forward, or just give my opinion to anyone struggling with any addiction that's ready to reach out for help and change the direction their life. Just personal message anytime

Dang Dude,

That scar looks fresh. My wife has one from about where yours stops down to about a stitch away from her rectum. You did well to drop the opiates. She is down to a maintenance dose of 15mg of morphine twice daily after basically not walking for a few years.

Best

 

[CdnJeepGirl]

I was in a near fatal accident Dec 9 2009 and have been in recovery since. Have had 13 surgeries, so far, last one was Mar 2016 to amputate my left foot.
I am a lightweight and can't take much THC but the CBD helps a lot! I am still on anti-depressants & Gabipenten but no opiates thankfully. Still trying to see what works best for MMJ as vaping the high THC before bed has helped best but not able to figure out what works during the day. Edibles, smoking & vaping seem to be too much. Have not tried oil and not sure where to go. My provider only sells dry herbs.

 

[Buzzer777]

Ugggh...Also not trying to scare ya...but anti-depressants can also be very hard to quit...(took them years ago)
Sometimes I think Big Pharm plans it this way...I trust no one associated w/ Big Pharm...

Best wishes for a complete and rapid recovery!

 

[Lazarus13]

Hit the nail on the head, Buzzer. Here, take these pills for pain... But they will only mask the pain and they will cause you more trouble than a little down the line... But we have another pill to help get you off the first pill, but you have to take 3 other pills for the side-effects. CANNABIS?!?! God no, that stuff'll kill ya.
Im 40 and ive been on opiates of one kind or another since i was 17. CCO has helped me wean down to such a small dose and since i started making tincture i can see it getting smaller and smaller.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

 

[Buzzer777]

Hit the nail on the head, Buzzer. Here, take these pills for pain... But they will only mask the pain and they will cause you more trouble than a little down the line... But we have another pill to help get you off the first pill, but you have to take 3 other pills for the side-effects. CANNABIS?!?! God no, that stuff'll kill ya.
Im 40 and ive been on opiates of one kind or another since i was 17. CCO has helped me wean down to such a small dose and since i started making tincture i can see it getting smaller and smaller.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

Boy, talking about hitting the nail!! I got wise to that crap years ago...docs that pushed pills, or cut ya up to see what's up were wiped off my list!
I only have one Dr now (I am almost 70 now), but he is old school, and a pain mgt doctor at that...I usually go in now maybe 2-3 times per year just to keep my status in good shape...He is forever amazed at the progress I made and despite his own feelings; will sign off this year when my MMJ card is due for renewal...Last time I went in...he just smiled, put his RX pad down, and asked if I thought it would help his terribly ill wife .
I replied that they would never know if they didn't try!!
Now that Rec is legal in Nevada, we shall see how the gov't handles it!

 

[HizzyB]

I shattered 5 vertebrae, 3 in back and 2 in neck, which resulted in me having a spinal fusion surgery in 2012. I now have 2 8" rods, 12 screws, and 4 2" plates fused to my spine and severe nerve damage in my upper back, both shoulders, up into my neck, and down the insides of my arms into my pinkies and ring fingers. I am currently waiting for my lease to end so I can move out of indiana and to a state with medical that's closer to my newly married sister. I'm a recovering heroin addict currently just over 20 months clean other than marijuana. I refuse opiates from my doctor and I'm just requesting input on the best strains/cdb products to use for both the burning nerve pain and the aching chronic pain. I'm over taking neurontin for the nerve pain but can't even finish a full day at my first job when I'm not taking something for it. Big Thanks to anyone that gives feedback.

I'd look into Michigan but that's just me

Hey nice to meet ya! Nice to see someone making such great strides

I'm almost 2.5 months clean
Thought I was all better and then 8 weeks arrived lol

It's a day by day but tacking CCO has helped me get here and stay clean.

By the looks of that scar and your description it a miricle you can do anything

Big huge congrats for getting clean after such injuries and pain

I think your my new hero!!

No use going into my numerous injuries

Small in comparison to yours but we both now all it takes is a sore tooth and a dr who will write and years later it's all the same probs

Nice to meet ya again spinalfusion

 

[SweetSue]

Forgot to mention I'm willing to share what I've done, how I've dealt with extremely stressful situations, what keeps me pushing forward, or just give my opinion to anyone struggling with any addiction that's ready to reach out for help and change the direction their life. Just personal message anytime

That's a generous offer Spinalfusions.

I went looking on your behalf and stumbled onto a brilliant series of articles in the Journal Of Neuropathy entitled Medical Cannabis for Neuropathic Pain by Dr. Rosemary Mazanet. At the end of the third article was this table I thought might come in handy.

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Practical Recommendations for Cannabis Usage

Although CBD and THC act differently in the body, they seem to have many of the same medical benefits. Unfortunately, most of this evidence comes from animals, since very few studies on cannabis have been carried out in human patients. The important result from preclinical animal models for neuropathy patients is that in rats, THC and CBD have been shown to be neuroprotective antioxidants. Many of the medical benefits of cannabis are attributed to the CBD content, particularly the strong anti-inflammatory and anti-seizure properties.

Potential Therapeutic properties of Medical Cannabis for Neuropathic Pain Depend on the Effect Required and Other Factors

THC

Anti-inflammatory
Euphoria
"Opiate-type Pain relief"

CBD

Neuropathic Pain relief
Anti-inflammatory
Patient Specific


Ratios most beneficial for Neuropathic Pain is patient specific

Minimal THC may be better for THC naïve patients, or patients wanting to avoid THC related side effects
Increased THC may be beneficial for patients using opiates for pain, or experiencing insomnia related to pain

Low THC: V. High CBD

Treatment of Neuropathic pain for patients wanting to avoid THC-related side effects
Treatment of Neuropathic pain in THC naïve patients

1:1 Equal THC/CBD

Treatment of Neuropathic pain in patients who use opiates to treat pain

High THC:Low CBD

Severe pain relief & sleep
For patients who use opiates to treat pain
Patients may experience insomnia from the use of CBD's

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It was notable to me that while most patients with neuropathic pain were prescribed a 1:1 ratio THC:CBD a large percentage reported settling on a higher THC, suggesting the patients know more than the doctors.

There's a thread dedicated to this topic that you might find valuable. The members that are subscribed have practical experience they willingly share. This information's getting posted over there as well. I hope to see you there.

The Best Strains Of Marijuana For Pain Relief

 

[SweetSue]

Thank you to HizzyB for the link to The National Alliance of Advocates for Buprenorphine Treatment page on avoiding precipitated withdrawal, defined by them as

"It is a rapid and intense onset of withdrawal symptoms initiated by a medication. In the case of Buprenorphine, because it has a higher binding strength at the opioid receptor, it competes for the receptor, "kicks off" and replaces existing opioids. If a significant amount of opioids are expelled from the receptors and replaced, the opioid physically dependent patient will feel the rapid loss of the opioid effect, initiating withdrawal symptoms.

.....To avoid precipitated withdrawal, physically dependent patients must no longer be experiencing the agonist effects of an opioid. One way to gauge this is to observe objective symptoms of withdrawal sufficient to score a minimum of 5 to 6 on the COWS (Clinical Opioid Withdrawal Scale). Scores of >10 are preferable. Due to patient individuality, required abstinent times may vary considerably from patient to patient. Only use the time since last use as an estimate to anticipate the onset of withdrawal symptoms.

Avoiding Precipitated Withdrawal

 

[SweetSue]

I'm not a woman easily intimidated by life, but the more I learn about pain management in our world and the destruction to lives in the name of profit and "watching my own back" is frightening beyond belief. It's not like no one knew what they were doing either. The documentation and clinical studies have been out there from the beginning and still they persist. From the beginning my husband and I knew cannabis was a better choice than the opioids, and we traded the prescription for what we could get in weed. I call it weed, because what you get on the street doesn't compare in any reality to what we grow ourselves. This was before I had the courage to grow.

Yes, SweetSue once folded to the pressure of the law too. There came a point when I knew he was going to die much earlier than I desired, so what did I have to lose by seeing to it that he died blissfully high? It shouldn't have to come to this point before we stand up for our rights to heal ourselves.

It's hopeful to me that the driving argument in the legislatures today is "opioids kill, cannabis doesn't."

How did we get this far off course? It doesn't matter, we're back on track now.

 

[darkages55]

Great reading. This article will be placed in my file

 

[Neiko]

Hi Sue, thanks for the link. I'm just going to copy and paste the post from my journal. I see some are finding relief in suboxone....BE AWARE, that shit is evil. After 8 years of it my wife is detoxing and it the most horrible thing I have witnessed. After thinking we were done with the withdrawals they came back in a big way after 3.5 weeks.

previous post:
I had to spend the majority of yesterday evening in the ER with the wife. It's a long story but short version is she has been on Suboxone for about 8 years. It's nasty drug people, it's in the opiate family. Anyway she hasn't needed it for the last 3 years since I started growing and reduced her dosage down the very minimum any lower and she would go into severe withdrawls. The Jamaican crew kinda knows what she goes through. We decided it is time to detox completely. I made bio bomb pills for her to start process. She has been off of it for 3.5 weeks. Friday was the 1st day she felt really good. Too good probably because we thought the withdrawls were over. She backed off on the THC pills and other nausea meds. I think she did too much Friday and woke up Saturday in SEVERE withdrawl. Nothing worked to get it under control It got so bad after 8 hours that we had to call an ambulance. She was very dehydrated. After being treated like a drug abuser and being told there is nothing they can do for her I pulled the Doctor aside and explained her situation and that the medical industry put her in this situation and now they are turning their back on her, they finally, magically had a plan. They gave a few meds in the IV and the symptoms finally stopped. Today we are back on the THC pills and our previous protocol and she is doing a ton better today. We found out this could go on for months. Keep your fingers crossed that she can hold on, we are so close but another episode like yesterday and I know she'll have to go back on it because the ER said they won't do it again.....what is wrong with our society! Rant over. Have a good rest of your easter gang.....and be nice to each other!

 

[SweetSue]

Warning: Disturbing visuals

Towns are beginning to hold the feet to the fire. Of course, the drug companies don't believe they share any of the responsibility for the addiction epidemic, so they'll be "vigoriously defending" their business practices.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

PBS had a show on last night about addiction and using psychedelics as a treatment. One segment involved a heroin user who used ibogaine for treatment. Supposed to completely block withdrawal symptoms, He seemed to do well minus a 10 minute crying jag. I'm sure weed helps with kicking more addictive stuff as well.

 

[Koren55]

Hi Sue,

Reading this string has given me hope. But first, my story -

Back around 1985 I began having shoulder and leg pain. Tried anti-inflammatory meds, TENS, but nothing really worked. in the 90s I had shoulder surgery to clean out the joint, but then I developed degenerative disc disease. The pain would be intermittent, but when it hit, I was incapacitated. After a knee surgery I had sinus surgery that ended up being extremely painful. I think that triggered full blown Fibromyalgia. Every muscle would ache, my thigh muscles would scream at me while I sat at my desk. Sometimes it would be so bad I'd be at my desk beating my legs with my fists. Did physical therapy so many times with it only helping after surgery. Then I was taking anti-inflammatory meds, and finally prescribed tramadol. That helped a little. But over the next three years, with increased dosage, it rarely helped. I'd be in so much pain that it would make me nauseous and throwing up. It was not good.

In January, 2001, as a last resort, my Doctor prescribed Fentanyl patch. For me it saved my life. My pain, after figuring out the correct dose, was gone. I was back to work, and the only time pain would appear was when a disc slipped out. That year I was finally diagnosed with Fibromyalgia by a rheumatologist who specialized in Diagnostic Dilemmas. I also began going to a pain specialist.

The pain doc tried to determine all med problems that I had in a quest to figure out the best drug cocktail to fight and alleviate the pain. I began taking Gabapentin, Zonegran, antidepressants, anti seizure meds. Each one had its own side effects, mostly bad. He tried putting me on kadian, a morphine type med. That was so sedating I stopped after two weeks.

After being on the same dose of fentanyl for seven years, I started having break through pain. He wanted to prescribe Oxycodone. I said fine as long as the fentanyl dose was lowered. The dose dropped to 75 from 100s. He prescribed 30 mg tablets of Oxycodone, up to three a day. Most days I took one in the morning, one at night, but with breakthrough pain I'd take two. It seemed strong so I asked for 15mg tabs instead. That way for breakthrough, I'd take 3, 45mg instead of 60. I was allowed to take up to five per day.

Again, I stayed with the same does from 2008 to late 2013 (3 in morning and 2 in evening). I was getting more breakthroughs, and asked if I could take one more at bedtime, if needed. My Doc agreed. I've been on that dose ever since.

Last year they approved Medical marijuana in my State, with a really slow roll out. I started reading up on MM and thought it might help me off the fentanyl. Last fall I weaned my self off the antidepressants and mood stabilizers with no problems. But I did get more fatigued.

This year I asked my doc about getting off of fentanyl. He suggested going on an extended release Oxycodone, then from there tapering off. I asked about MM - he said he wouldn't prescribe it, not enough scientific data. He also told me I had to find another Doc to write the scripts, said the new guidelines were too strict and his office could not comply with them.

I said I'd look for a different pain specialist. He agreed. The first one I called I had seen for epidural shots in 2008/9 . They had given up on me when they determined the shots were only lasting two weeks instead of six months. I asked for an evaluation. They turned me down, said they couldn't help me. The second one I saw last week. He blamed everything on the opioids, I'm guessing he didn't review my history. He said he take over my meds, and work on one pain at a time doing nerve ablation. Once the pain was under control, he'd get me off the fentanyl and Oxycodone. I asked about MM, he said he was researching it, but wasn't sure. He did say that if I tested positive for it, he'd stop prescribing the opioids.

Meanwhile, we were in Spain last May. While there I spotted a co-op store and went in. I saw a display of Sweet Seeds on the counter and asked what ones were good for chronic pain as well as being fresh. He recommended Sweet Afghani Delicious. I bought a packet of four seeds, and once home planted one, followed by another two weeks later. Once each was four weeks old, they were planted in the middle of my garden. They're doing rather well. Still in vegetative stage, still growing. I don't handle them much, and wash my hands afterwards. Don't want to inadvertently test positive, right? I plan on using gloves once they begin flowering, and will use a mask when I'm near them. I'll do the same at harvest time and when trimming and curing.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to decide if I want to try this new doc, or go to one more. My primary said I could check out three, said I must be comfortable with the new doc.

I did check out nerve ablation and found out it really doesn't work on fibromyalgia patients. But he's willing to take over the meds. It's a start, but I do have one more pain specialist to check out.

Either way, I want to get off the fentanyl, then the oxy. At least I've kept the same dosage for years. Still I know this body is addicted. I just want to get to the point where I don't care about getting new scripts and I can try Mm.

I saw Magnus8 was going off beginning in February, but he hasn't posted in months.

I also know that if I test positive for marijuana, my meds stop. I think that's ridiculous, especially when I want to use it to help get off the opioids.

I'm guessing it will come to a point where I'm going to face withdrawal. And with all my health problems, it might end up being in an inpatient facility. Still, reading this string has given me so much hope that I'll get off the opioids with help from MM. I just have to find a doctor willing to work with me.

K

 

[Neiko]

Hi Sue,

Reading this string has given me hope. But first, my story -

Back around 1985 I began having shoulder and leg pain. Tried anti-inflammatory meds, TENS, but nothing really worked. in the 90s I had shoulder surgery to clean out the joint, but then I developed degenerative disc disease. The pain would be intermittent, but when it hit, I was incapacitated. After a knee surgery I had sinus surgery that ended up being extremely painful. I think that triggered full blown Fibromyalgia. Every muscle would ache, my thigh muscles would scream at me while I sat at my desk. Sometimes it would be so bad I'd be at my desk beating my legs with my fists. Did physical therapy so many times with it only helping after surgery. Then I was taking anti-inflammatory meds, and finally prescribed tramadol. That helped a little. But over the next three years, with increased dosage, it rarely helped. I'd be in so much pain that it would make me nauseous and throwing up. It was not good.

In January, 2001, as a last resort, my Doctor prescribed Fentanyl patch. For me it saved my life. My pain, after figuring out the correct dose, was gone. I was back to work, and the only time pain would appear was when a disc slipped out. That year I was finally diagnosed with Fibromyalgia by a rheumatologist who specialized in Diagnostic Dilemmas. I also began going to a pain specialist.

The pain doc tried to determine all med problems that I had in a quest to figure out the best drug cocktail to fight and alleviate the pain. I began taking Gabapentin, Zonegran, antidepressants, anti seizure meds. Each one had its own side effects, mostly bad. He tried putting me on kadian, a morphine type med. That was so sedating I stopped after two weeks.

After being on the same dose of fentanyl for seven years, I started having break through pain. He wanted to prescribe Oxycodone. I said fine as long as the fentanyl dose was lowered. The dose dropped to 75 from 100s. He prescribed 30 mg tablets of Oxycodone, up to three a day. Most days I took one in the morning, one at night, but with breakthrough pain I'd take two. It seemed strong so I asked for 15mg tabs instead. That way for breakthrough, I'd take 3, 45mg instead of 60. I was allowed to take up to five per day.

Again, I stayed with the same does from 2008 to late 2013 (3 in morning and 2 in evening). I was getting more breakthroughs, and asked if I could take one more at bedtime, if needed. My Doc agreed. I've been on that dose ever since.

Last year they approved Medical marijuana in my State, with a really slow roll out. I started reading up on MM and thought it might help me off the fentanyl. Last fall I weaned my self off the antidepressants and mood stabilizers with no problems. But I did get more fatigued.

This year I asked my doc about getting off of fentanyl. He suggested going on an extended release Oxycodone, then from there tapering off. I asked about MM - he said he wouldn't prescribe it, not enough scientific data. He also told me I had to find another Doc to write the scripts, said the new guidelines were too strict and his office could not comply with them.

I said I'd look for a different pain specialist. He agreed. The first one I called I had seen for epidural shots in 2008/9 . They had given up on me when they determined the shots were only lasting two weeks instead of six months. I asked for an evaluation. They turned me down, said they couldn't help me. The second one I saw last week. He blamed everything on the opioids, I'm guessing he didn't review my history. He said he take over my meds, and work on one pain at a time doing nerve ablation. Once the pain was under control, he'd get me off the fentanyl and Oxycodone. I asked about MM, he said he was researching it, but wasn't sure. He did say that if I tested positive for it, he'd stop prescribing the opioids.

Meanwhile, we were in Spain last May. While there I spotted a co-op store and went in. I saw a display of Sweet Seeds on the counter and asked what ones were good for chronic pain as well as being fresh. He recommended Sweet Afghani Delicious. I bought a packet of four seeds, and once home planted one, followed by another two weeks later. Once each was four weeks old, they were planted in the middle of my garden. They're doing rather well. Still in vegetative stage, still growing. I don't handle them much, and wash my hands afterwards. Don't want to inadvertently test positive, right? I plan on using gloves once they begin flowering, and will use a mask when I'm near them. I'll do the same at harvest time and when trimming and curing.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to decide if I want to try this new doc, or go to one more. My primary said I could check out three, said I must be comfortable with the new doc.

I did check out nerve ablation and found out it really doesn't work on fibromyalgia patients. But he's willing to take over the meds. It's a start, but I do have one more pain specialist to check out.

Either way, I want to get off the fentanyl, then the oxy. At least I've kept the same dosage for years. Still I know this body is addicted. I just want to get to the point where I don't care about getting new scripts and I can try Mm.

I saw Magnus8 was going off beginning in February, but he hasn't posted in months.

I also know that if I test positive for marijuana, my meds stop. I think that's ridiculous, especially when I want to use it to help get off the opioids.

I'm guessing it will come to a point where I'm going to face withdrawal. And with all my health problems, it might end up being in an inpatient facility. Still, reading this string has given me so much hope that I'll get off the opioids with help from MM. I just have to find a doctor willing to work with me.

K

The MM will help get you off the opiods for good. You just need to make the decision to do it. It's hard to find a pain specialist that will support medical marijuana, especially if your state is new to it. I would suggest looking up Sue's bio bomb pill recipes. Using olive oil will allow you to dose and not feel the high so you can still be at work. Another plant that will greatly benefit you is Kratom (google it). Try the Red strains, that stuff in combination with cannabis works better for pain than any opioid. The Kratom will stop opioid withdrawals too. Christophersorganicbotanicals.com is where I order the Kratom from. It's high quality and the price is competitive. My wife is now off all those meds you listed you've been taking in addition to Suboxone. I would run from any doctor that wants to put you on that shit. It took about 5 months for her to get off that. Without the cannabis and kratom she never would have made it. Her quality of life is so much better now and pain is an after thought. Good luck and hang in there, you are on the right path.

 

[SweetSue]

The MM will help get you off the opiods for good. You just need to make the decision to do it. It's hard to find a pain specialist that will support medical marijuana, especially if your state is new to it. I would suggest looking up Sue's bio bomb pill recipes. Using olive oil will allow you to dose and not feel the high so you can still be at work. Another plant that will greatly benefit you is Kratom (google it). Try the Red strains, that stuff in combination with cannabis works better for pain than any opioid. The Kratom will stop opioid withdrawals too. Christophersorganicbotanicals.com is where I order the Kratom from. It's high quality and the price is competitive. My wife is now off all those meds you listed you've been taking in addition to Suboxone. I would run from any doctor that wants to put you on that shit. It took about 5 months for her to get off that. Without the cannabis and kratom she never would have made it. Her quality of life is so much better now and pain is an after thought. Good luck and hang in there, you are on the right path.

Thank you for sharing that Neiko. Kratom.... I'll research and post some relevant info later today.

Koren55, Neiko has experience in this with his wife, so I'd listen to his words. I'd also recommend you go with the BioBombs, and use them as suppositories. It'll give you the greatest concentration of cannabinoids available with no euphoric side effects to interfere with the day job. In order to get off opioids it takes dosing 3-4 times a day. You want a strong baseline of cannabinoids in the system at all times.

When you make that decision and go for it know that this community will be here for you. You're never more than a keystroke from a safe room on the site with members ready to support you in any way we can. This is doable, but no one will delude you by saying it'll be easy.

The reward for getting through is freedom and the joy of getting your life back again.

Again, anything we can do to help, you have only to ask.

 

[gtrmike470]

Posted this in a similar thread. But thought I'd post it here too.
In 2009, I had a lower back surgery. My third procedure. Failed. Spinal stenosis. Epidural fibrosis.
While I was waiting for the surgery, and after, I was loaded up on OxyContin. At my peak I was taking as much as 880 mg per day. Took me 3years to take MYSELF off of it by reducing my prescription by 30 pills every month or two. Once I got to about a third of my dosage, my doctor was happy to talk to me about prescribing me cannabis for long term pain management. He's been my doctor for 25 years, and I have always been open about my usage with him. That didn't change when it came to talking about how cannabis was the only thing that suppresses the spasms. Gives me a chance to sleep. The key to everything. OxyContin just makes it so that I don't give a shit. About anything. Much less remember anything. Much healthier choice.
Now I manage better than ever with my cannabis perscription, and some spinal Cortizone injections every three months. My quality of life has increased tenfold.
Peace and good living.