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WC's 1st Time Grow with 400w HPS/MH Think Different Autoflower
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So it's update and picture time.
I've gone and swapped the area around a little bit and switched over to the metal halide lamp from the cfls. I feel this gives the area a cleaner look and makes accessing either of my plants an easy thing to do, at least for now I hope.
I also decided to switch to the HID light to give the plants a taste of something better. The lamp is hung at aprx 3.5 feet. I hope that this will stimulate the plant into some vigorous growth. It will be the end of day 3 in 8 hrs.
There appears to be a small amount of stretch in lefty which I think is fine at this stage it shows me she has some life in her.
I believe my PH is starting to balance. It's only been up to around 6.2-6.3 which is the high end of the acceptable range in a hydro system. The bottom of the net pots sit aprox a half inch in the solution. and the rockwool wicks up what it needs.
It will be about 4 days before the next res change. I'm curious to see if the tap root will break through into the res by then. I also need to look into the lifespan of all the bennies contained in VooDoo juice. Do they last for a full week?
So I've just been down stairs and my temps have spiked to 83 and the RH has risen to 83% as well with the humidifier. I placed a small fan outside the tent to force cool air into the tent it worked to lower the temps however it also lowered the RH down to around the 30% mark. I've placed the fan into the tent to blow air around and I've taped up the lower tent flaps to hopefully allow cool air to circulate hopefully this will fix my temp problems and keep my RH at the appropriate levels.
Look Ma...no cfls
lefty with her stretch
righty just chilling
I've gone and swapped the area around a little bit and switched over to the metal halide lamp from the cfls. I feel this gives the area a cleaner look and makes accessing either of my plants an easy thing to do, at least for now I hope.
I also decided to switch to the HID light to give the plants a taste of something better. The lamp is hung at aprx 3.5 feet. I hope that this will stimulate the plant into some vigorous growth. It will be the end of day 3 in 8 hrs.
There appears to be a small amount of stretch in lefty which I think is fine at this stage it shows me she has some life in her.
I believe my PH is starting to balance. It's only been up to around 6.2-6.3 which is the high end of the acceptable range in a hydro system. The bottom of the net pots sit aprox a half inch in the solution. and the rockwool wicks up what it needs.
It will be about 4 days before the next res change. I'm curious to see if the tap root will break through into the res by then. I also need to look into the lifespan of all the bennies contained in VooDoo juice. Do they last for a full week?
So I've just been down stairs and my temps have spiked to 83 and the RH has risen to 83% as well with the humidifier. I placed a small fan outside the tent to force cool air into the tent it worked to lower the temps however it also lowered the RH down to around the 30% mark. I've placed the fan into the tent to blow air around and I've taped up the lower tent flaps to hopefully allow cool air to circulate hopefully this will fix my temp problems and keep my RH at the appropriate levels.
Look Ma...no cfls
lefty with her stretch
righty just chilling
high there WyldeWell it turns out I will be posting pics today.
So I found out the probe on my Hygrometer is faulty (off by around 45% RH)
I had put the gf's humidifier in the tent for a couple hrs with the probe in and got a reading of 77F and 26% RH so I reach in through one of the vent holes and feel around and everything has a thin sheen of water vapor on it including my 400w MH bulb. So I'm thinking this can't be right. So I remove the probe and put the hygrometer directly in the tent and within 10 minutes the RH shoots up to around 65%!!!
so here are some pics.
lefty day 3
Righty day 3
Hygrometer with probe in
Hygrometer 10 minutes later directly inside the tent
Condensation all over my MH bulb
Temps eventually reached about 76% RH so I shut the humidifier down and have been monitoring temps and RH every hour or so. Guess I need a humidifier
Anyways off to play some CoD I suddenly feel the urge to shoot people in the teeth.
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Wylde
Nice to meet ya and I was glad you had this link in your sig.
All looks great but boy I sure dont like how much moisture is on that bulb, guess its like that when its off? With no glass to protect you and the tent from that bulb exploding can be dangerous if you were saying misting your plants and some moisture hit that hot bulb. Be careful is all. I don't think when there that young less RH would cause you much problems, once those babies become transpiring beauties you will be trying to lower it.
So nice to meet you and I look fwd to seeing the think diffs do their thing. I take it you've seen that video with the TD and the led? Was that see more?
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WyldeChylde
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Hi S1ing and it's nice to meet you as well I've been regularly lurking in your journals when I see them pop up. Lots of good info and the plant pics!!! OMG 
The condensation that was on the bulb was from when I was just running the cfls directly over the seedlings. now that I'm actually running the MH I think the heat repels any water vapor trying to condense on it.
I know that once the plants get bigger they'll be transpiring like crazy but first I have to get them there and from what I've read seedlings like a warm humid environment.
The time lapse vid with the TD and the LED are all pictures from seymours journal I believe.
and welcome aboard.
The condensation that was on the bulb was from when I was just running the cfls directly over the seedlings. now that I'm actually running the MH I think the heat repels any water vapor trying to condense on it.
I know that once the plants get bigger they'll be transpiring like crazy but first I have to get them there and from what I've read seedlings like a warm humid environment.
The time lapse vid with the TD and the LED are all pictures from seymours journal I believe.
and welcome aboard.
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WyldeChylde
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I think today when I go down and check on the ladies in a bit I'll be adding a shot of VooDoo juice directly to the tap root.
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So I checked the ladies. Temps are a bit high at around 83 but the humidity is about 60% or so so I'll have to hope the girls can deal with the mid 80 temps while I keep the humidity up.
PH has leveled out nicely both pots are at 5.9 without having to add anything. Still have yet to see a tap root out the bottom of the pot, but then I have a couple of really big pots.
I gave each plant a shot of voodoo juice.
The stretch in Lefty is starting to become pronounced so I lowered the light to 2.5 feet above them. Righty has a little bit of stretch starting to go on as well so hopefully it means they are going to start bulking up soon.
Next res change is in 3 days I'm debating on whether to give them a small taste of NPK say maybe. .5ml per 2lt.
PH has leveled out nicely both pots are at 5.9 without having to add anything. Still have yet to see a tap root out the bottom of the pot, but then I have a couple of really big pots.
I gave each plant a shot of voodoo juice.
The stretch in Lefty is starting to become pronounced so I lowered the light to 2.5 feet above them. Righty has a little bit of stretch starting to go on as well so hopefully it means they are going to start bulking up soon.
Next res change is in 3 days I'm debating on whether to give them a small taste of NPK say maybe. .5ml per 2lt.
Looking great Wylde.I love a nice clean set-up.I noticed you are a little concerned with your temp's.I also look's like in the pic that your hygrometer is sitting on your light.I am guessing it a bit cooler down at seedling level.Please correct me if I am wrong.
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yeah that was taken before I started running the light I was using 4 cfls currently the gauge sits on one of the buckets.
Got temps of 85 right now and a humidity around 60% so I'm guessing that since it's a seedling it prefers things a bit wet and warm. Going to be picking up a cool mist humidifier so that should take a bite out of some of the temp. Hope the plants are resilient enough to see it through.
Got temps of 85 right now and a humidity around 60% so I'm guessing that since it's a seedling it prefers things a bit wet and warm. Going to be picking up a cool mist humidifier so that should take a bite out of some of the temp. Hope the plants are resilient enough to see it through.
I personally don't think 85 is much to worry about,but little cooler won't hurt either.60% humidity is great.Imo.
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I personally don't think 85 is much to worry about,but little cooler won't hurt either.60% humidity is great.Imo.
Well so far I'm getting stretch from both plants. I call lefty my little fist of rage because she is scope locked on the light like a little antenna it's just *BING* Righty is starting to show some stretch as well but I don't see as much growth so far as I thought I should at day 4. I'm thinking my first set of true leaves should be more further along than they are currently. But then I have to remind myself it's still only day 4. Dunno if that makes sense.
Today was their first full day under a MH so maybe the pics from tomorrow will be better.
I've also got to start filling up some of the gallon jugs 2-3 days until the res change so I want the water to have stood for a day or so. I probably wont feed anything until/unless the plants show me they want it.
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Welcome to day 5
So after the first full day of MH goodness the plants have shown noticeable growth. Temps are still low 80's and the RH is around 50-60%. Will be getting a cool mist humidifier today so yay for that.
Filled up 8 1 gallon jugs in anticipation of using them for the res change in a couple days.
PH is still stable although I think it's because the rockwool isn't sitting in the res any longer due to evaporation.
Each plant got hand watered and will be watered at least twice a day until I see roots. PPM's in the res are climbing a bit as water evaporates out. Currently holding around 75 PPM or so.
Lets get on with the baby pics.
Lefty aka the Antenna aka my little fist of rage.
and Righty which doesn't really have a name at the moment.
as always comments and opinions are welcome.
So after the first full day of MH goodness the plants have shown noticeable growth. Temps are still low 80's and the RH is around 50-60%. Will be getting a cool mist humidifier today so yay for that.
Filled up 8 1 gallon jugs in anticipation of using them for the res change in a couple days.
PH is still stable although I think it's because the rockwool isn't sitting in the res any longer due to evaporation.
Each plant got hand watered and will be watered at least twice a day until I see roots. PPM's in the res are climbing a bit as water evaporates out. Currently holding around 75 PPM or so.
Lets get on with the baby pics.
Lefty aka the Antenna aka my little fist of rage.
and Righty which doesn't really have a name at the moment.
as always comments and opinions are welcome.
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Close of day 5
So it'll be lights out in aprox 2.5 hrs and I think I got some stretch in lefty today as well.
I lowered the lights from 2.5 feet to 2 feet so far the plants don't seem to mind
I got a cool mist humidifier today. It puts out pretty well in the 4x4 area but isn't lowering the temps, which are still around 83 or so. All in all it's a nice model it has a humidistat up to 60% RH So far I've just been letting it run.
I'm noticing on both plants that the first set of true leaves seem to be reaching right at the light is this normal? I'm not sure if you can see it in the pictures. It appears pronounced in person.
Lefty
Righty
Humidifier YaY
Temps
and what I'm doing while you read this.
So it'll be lights out in aprox 2.5 hrs and I think I got some stretch in lefty today as well.
I lowered the lights from 2.5 feet to 2 feet so far the plants don't seem to mind
I got a cool mist humidifier today. It puts out pretty well in the 4x4 area but isn't lowering the temps, which are still around 83 or so. All in all it's a nice model it has a humidistat up to 60% RH So far I've just been letting it run.
I'm noticing on both plants that the first set of true leaves seem to be reaching right at the light is this normal? I'm not sure if you can see it in the pictures. It appears pronounced in person.
Lefty
Righty
Humidifier YaY
Temps
and what I'm doing while you read this.
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So we are 8.5 hrs into day 6 and the second set of true leaves is really starting to take shape. I may just go and do a res change tomorrow and start feeding. I have a feeling that these guys are just looking for an excuse to blow up. The roots should be pretty well set with the beneficials from the voodoo juice. All that is missing is the NPK.
I definitely need smaller net pots in the future. I have a feeling that had I used a smaller pot my roots would just be poking into the res today. Ah well live and learn.
Lefty
Righty
Overall view of the area
I definitely need smaller net pots in the future. I have a feeling that had I used a smaller pot my roots would just be poking into the res today. Ah well live and learn.
Lefty
Righty
Overall view of the area
[QUOTEI'm noticing on both plants that the first set of true leaves seem to be reaching right at the light is this normal? I'm not sure if you can see it in the pictures. It appears pronounced in person.
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sign of health and happiness, if I walk into my room/tent and everything is saluting, I know for that moment, the girls are happy
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sign of health and happiness, if I walk into my room/tent and everything is saluting, I know for that moment, the girls are happy
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my computer died last night ugh. so I'm posting from my phone.
day 7 is under way with a full res change going on. I did quarter strength macro nutes at 1ml per ltr approx 11ltrs per bucket I also added b52, voodoo juice and some carboload for the bennies and seedlings. ppm for each bucket is 550 with a ph of 5.6-5.8
righty looks a bit droopy i dropped a meter on her so hopefully she recovers with this res.
i hope i dont murder my plants as i think even quarter str nutes might be too much at this early stage. guess we will find out.
does anybody know how to upload pics via an android phone?
day 7 is under way with a full res change going on. I did quarter strength macro nutes at 1ml per ltr approx 11ltrs per bucket I also added b52, voodoo juice and some carboload for the bennies and seedlings. ppm for each bucket is 550 with a ph of 5.6-5.8
righty looks a bit droopy i dropped a meter on her so hopefully she recovers with this res.
i hope i dont murder my plants as i think even quarter str nutes might be too much at this early stage. guess we will find out.
does anybody know how to upload pics via an android phone?
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So I'm back on a computer. As long as I can research and shoot people in the face I won't go crazy
I assume since my plants haven't fallen over and died that the feed I gave them earlier is ok. They appear to be picking up some steam I feel I'm 2-3 days behind where I need to be but I chalk that up to being a beginner. I'm hoping the plants really start to get going once the feed takes hold. They are already growing quite a bit.
Lefty
Righty
Righty seems to have roused herself from her previous slump and Lefty seems to be digging the light.
I assume since my plants haven't fallen over and died that the feed I gave them earlier is ok. They appear to be picking up some steam I feel I'm 2-3 days behind where I need to be but I chalk that up to being a beginner. I'm hoping the plants really start to get going once the feed takes hold. They are already growing quite a bit.
Lefty
Righty
Righty seems to have roused herself from her previous slump and Lefty seems to be digging the light.
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WyldeChylde
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here we are in day 8.
The plants seem to be enjoying the nutes. They are growing noticeably every day I think.
Temps are stable at 82ish with RH% standing between 50-60% Clearly the environment is correct.
I could use a better fan I need one that oscillates and can clip onto one of the tent poles.
PH check was spot on in both buckets Righty at 5.7 and Lefty at 5.8 Both pots are sitting in 1" of nutrient solution. Neither plant seems to mind.
I also added 20ml of Rhino Skin to each bucket today. I figure between the Voodoo juice, B52 and Rhino Skin the plant should be pretty well inoculated against anything I inadvertently let loose in the tent.
So lets have some pics.
full picture.
Some views of Righty
And of Lefty
I packed in some more of the growdan grow cubes around the base of Lefty's stem to provide some support.
It won't be long now
The plants seem to be enjoying the nutes. They are growing noticeably every day I think.
Temps are stable at 82ish with RH% standing between 50-60% Clearly the environment is correct.
I could use a better fan I need one that oscillates and can clip onto one of the tent poles.
PH check was spot on in both buckets Righty at 5.7 and Lefty at 5.8 Both pots are sitting in 1" of nutrient solution. Neither plant seems to mind.
I also added 20ml of Rhino Skin to each bucket today. I figure between the Voodoo juice, B52 and Rhino Skin the plant should be pretty well inoculated against anything I inadvertently let loose in the tent.
So lets have some pics.
full picture.
Some views of Righty
And of Lefty
I packed in some more of the growdan grow cubes around the base of Lefty's stem to provide some support.
It won't be long now
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Looking good.
Thank you and welcome aboard
Looking good, cant wait to see those babies pack in on. Ive wanted to try my luck with the think diff strain
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