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Budget LED

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Hello Everyone:

We are a relatively new sponsor to 420 mag. We are very happy to be here and really appreciate the support we have already been receiving.

Budget LED is based out of Michigan. We produce the highest performing grow light dollar for dollar on the market. We pride ourselves on innovative designs as well as continuous product research and development to stay ahead of the LED lighting industry. We are a small but efficient team of engineers, customer service specialists, shipping / receiving specialists, and staff growers.

What you get with us:

  • The highest performing grow light for the money
  • Industry leading customer service
  • Top bin Samsung (LM301B / LM301H), Cree, or Osram Diodes
  • Industry leading driver by Meanwell
  • Highest quality in the industry
  • Hand built, pre-assembled kits that are easy to complete (we built every light to order)
  • Easy to follow assembly instructions
  • 3 Year Warranty
  • 30 day money back guarantee
  • Free 2-4 Day shipping in the USA (Canada $29.99 USD flat rate)
  • Shipment within 24 hours of order placement (except Sundays or holidays)
  • Veteran owned and operated

Why did we choose Samsung diodes over others such as Epistar? Easy, the efficiency, efficacy, and quality of Samsung is very hard to beat! There is a reason commercial growers are going Samsung versus brands like Epistar. Many brands choose to go with the cheaper diodes to keep costs low.

We currently offer a 10% discount for 420 Magazine members! Use code "420MAG" @ checkout.

Our internal motto is "Lighting for Growers by Growers". We are growers to!

Key Highlights of our 250w kits!

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Key Highlights on our 480w Kits!


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If you have any questions, please let us know. If you are already an existing customer, tell others about your experience with us below!
 

Budget LED

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People have been asking alot about grow pictures. Here is a clients grow at day 43. Grown under our Red Spec 250w kits. 750w total in a 4 x 6 area (4 x 8 tent).

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Dutchman1990

Member of the Month: Dec 2018 - Grow Journal of the Month: Apr 2019 - Grow Journal of the Year: 2019
Nice intro Justin and as a current customer and user of your 120W and 500W Kits I must say I’m thoroughly pleased with the light output and quality of the lights themselves!

Starting my young plants under this 120W kit I have seen impressive foliage growth as well as increased branching and size! Overall health of the plants is fantastic and they love soaking up this light! I’m eager to transplant and get them flowering under the 500W kit to really showcase these beautiful and powerful lights using top quality parts!

I will be doing some training and stuff today of the girls under the 120W kit so I’ll be sure to post some pictures of how they are progressing as well as the girth on their main stalks and branches!! It’s impressive!!

This was the Pheno group 3 girls last week before I left on vacation.

Then this is the girls this morning soaking up all the light from the 120W Kit! You can see those thick indica leaves showing off and getting big! The training and defoliation today will help open them all up!




For the training pictures and the process of the quadline head over to my journal and check it out!

For anyone in the market to buy a light with top end parts, and outstanding customer service I wouldn’t look any further than @BudgetLED

Justin will go out of his way to help you and and make sure your light is everything you would expect!


** I want to mention I run both MarsHydro and BudgetLED lighting and I’ll be able to better compare in a little while once I’m further into my grow!

Stay Medicated
 

Budget LED

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Nice intro Justin and as a current customer and user of your 120W and 500W Kits I must say I’m thoroughly pleased with the light output and quality of the lights themselves!

Starting my young plants under this 120W kit I have seen impressive foliage growth as well as increased branching and size! Overall health of the plants is fantastic and they love soaking up this light! I’m eager to transplant and get them flowering under the 500W kit to really showcase these beautiful and powerful lights using top quality parts!

I will be doing some training and stuff today of the girls under the 120W kit so I’ll be sure to post some pictures of how they are progressing as well as the girth on their main stalks and branches!! It’s impressive!!

This was the Pheno group 3 girls last week before I left on vacation.

Then this is the girls this morning soaking up all the light from the 120W Kit! You can see those thick indica leaves showing off and getting big! The training and defoliation today will help open them all up!




For the training pictures and the process of the quadline head over to my journal and check it out!

For anyone in the market to buy a light with top end parts, and outstanding customer service I wouldn’t look any further than @BudgetLED

Justin will go out of his way to help you and and make sure your light is everything you would expect!


** I want to mention I run both MarsHydro and BudgetLED lighting and I’ll be able to better compare in a little while once I’m further into my grow!

Stay Medicated


Wow your plants really took to that light! I see some really nice harvests in your near future :headbanger::ganjamon:
 

Dutchman1990

Member of the Month: Dec 2018 - Grow Journal of the Month: Apr 2019 - Grow Journal of the Year: 2019
Wow your plants really took to that light! I see some really nice harvests in your near future :headbanger::ganjamon:
They did indeed! I’m looking forward to hopefully what is my best harvest yet!

Here is a couple more photos for follow up after training today and A short video!





 

Budget LED

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Our Series 3 250 Watt Indoor LED grow light is designed to be our highest PPE unit available. Each kit utilizes 2 of our custom designed & full spectrum LED boards with Samsung LM301H diodes. Samsung most notably highlights this diode carries a PPE of 3.03 μmol/J and includes anti-sulfurization. This unit is dimmable, with wattage output from 100 to 250 (+/- 5%) watts
TOP FEATURES
  • High efficiency LED boards
  • Full-spectrum white Samsung LM301H
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration
  • Dimmer included
  • 3-year warranty
  • Designed to replace a single-ended 500 Watt HID
  • Kit includes LED boards, driver, heatsink, dimmer, hanging kit, and wiring
SPECIFICATIONS
Power100-255 Watts
LED DiodesSamsung LM301H
Flowering Footprint2' x 4' or 3’ x 3’
Veg Footprint4' x 4'
Dimensions25.3" x 8.1" x 1"
Recommended Mounting Height18-24 inches above canopy
Spectrum Options3000k (flowering), 3500k (veg & flower)

 

labexperiment

Well-Known Member
Been poking around your lights and have not seen any information on if you coat the diodes with some type of plastic coating to protect them from water? Like I see other qb type manufacturers do. What is the IP rating?
 

Budget LED

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Thanks for the question. The driver and power cord connections are IP67 and IP68 respectively.

Currently we do not coat the boards with a conformal coating. We are testing it now. In every case, it has shown to impact performance of the diodes. I'm not sure if companies that offer it test before or after the coating is applied since it is a separate process.

We are will soon offer it as a customized feature for clients that want it coated with additonal molex covers and such for the extra peace of mind.

We have been running our standard test boards now for about a year. 24 hours / 7 days a week at max. With daily open air abuse testing such as jolting the light around, quick adjustments to power functions, random unplug / replug in and misting directly under the light without any issues.
 

Budget LED

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I am just wondering if there is an additional discount available for US Veterans.

Being veteran owned company, yes we offer a different discount for veterans. Please PM us for details.
 

labexperiment

Well-Known Member
Hey I have been researching LED lighting for a while now, and thank you for the response to my earlier question about IP ratings on your products. I would definitely choose the protective coating for a few extra bucks for the peace of mind it would bring and the extra safety that would come with it when cleaning the light. I have another question about the orientation of the boards on the heat sink, typically and not just your company but most seem to go with an orientation like this
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but I am wondering if an orientation like this would provide a more even ppfd
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I know you sell parts and someone can buy their own aluminum and attach your boards any way they want but am curious if your team has tried several configurations to get the most even canopy possible, I would even guess that there is some software somewhere that would enable you to do this in theory which could then be proven in an actual build.

Look forward to your answer, and thank you for you time.
P.S. if you use my idea, I would like the first light you test please.
 

TorturedSoul

Member of the Month: May 2009, Oct 2010, Sept 2017
but I am wondering if an orientation like this would provide a more even ppfd
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Nice idea - and one that someone should have thought of approximately five seconds after the first multi-LED grow light product was ever powered up, lol. Sucks to end up with a big "hot spot" in the center of the grow space just to ensure that the perimeter receives sufficient light.

:thumb:.

P.S. if you use my idea, I would like the first light you test please.

If your idea works, it solves a basic issue that's probably present with the vast majority of grow light products (regardless of the type) and, since that would seem to be a virtually guaranteed sales booster... Yeah, I'd probably agree to your request if I was the owner of the company, lol.

In every case, it has shown to impact performance of the diodes.

I'd guess that this is going to be a given. In the HID world, adding a piece of glass (e.g., air-cooled reflector setup) is something like a 9% hit to the output (in practical terms), if I remember correctly. I'd probably call the coated version the "standard product," and the bare/uncoated one the "optional" one. If for no other reason, because the default would then be more difficult to unintentionally screw up ;) . Plus, it'd mean that the optional version was the one that produced a higher output. Yes, that probably raises the cost of the standard version slightly - so you just roll that expense into the price, and then the optional version could be a no-cost option. People like those :p.

We are will soon offer it as a customized feature for clients that want it coated with additonal molex covers and such for the extra peace of mind.

We have been running our standard test boards now for about a year. 24 hours / 7 days a week at max. With daily open air abuse testing such as jolting the light around, quick adjustments to power functions, random unplug / replug in and misting directly under the light without any issues.

I appreciate that you're doing the random power cycling part of your testing. Other than "cooking it to death" (running a device beyond its heat-removal capacity), the heat-cycling might be the biggest killer. Altogether different beast, of course, but my late aunt had a well in a tiny pump house. She left an old-school incandescent light bulb running (other than the occasional power failure) for something like 29 years before it failed, lol. The extreme longevity is something that I attributed to the fact that it came to operating temperature and sat there for the vast majority of its life, rather than heating/expanding, cooling/shrinking, rinse/lather/repeat like the average light bulb routinely endures.
 

Budget LED

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Thank you for the feed back.

The coating has been a work in process for awhile. We have been testing lense covers too. We are discussing internally how to list the offering. I like the idea of offering it standard and the non coated idea.

Regarding the testing, yes we have tested numerous ways and will continue to do so. We have cooked boards. Typically, we will over drive boards for an extended period to see how they hold up.
On the water proofing, I actually put one outside today in the snow storm to see how it holds up. I will test tomorrow to see the results. This is just a random example of some of the testing we do to see how our product holds up in different environments.

Btw, great example with the bulb. Many things today are not built to last as long. My grandma still uses a 70s vacuum. Thing just seems like it will run forever.
 

Budget LED

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Our Series 3 500 Watt Indoor LED grow light is designed to be our highest PPE unit available. Each kit utilizes 4 of our custom designed & full spectrum LED boards with Samsung LM301H diodes. Samsung most notably highlights this diode carries a PPE of 3.03 μmol/J and includes anti-sulfurization. This unit is dimmable, with wattage output from 100 to 500 (+/- 5%) watts

TOP FEATURES

  • High efficiency LED boards
  • Full-spectrum white Samsung LM301H
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration
  • Dimmer included
  • 3-year warranty
  • Designed to replace a single-ended 1000 Watt HID
  • Kit includes LED boards, driver, heatsink, dimmer, hanging kit, and wiring
SPECIFICATIONS

Power100-500 Watts
LED DiodesSamsung LM301H
Flowering Footprint4.5' x 4.5'
Veg Footprint6' x 6'
Dimensions26" x 20" x 3"
Recommended Mounting Height24-36 inches above canopy
Spectrum Options3000k (flowering), 3500k (veg & flower)

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Budget LED

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Our Series 3 SQ² 250 Watt Indoor LED grow light is designed to be our highest PPE unit available. This light is designed with the LED boards side by side versus the traditional heatsink style (lengthwise). This design offers more even coverage for tents with equal length sides. Each kit utilizes 2 of our custom designed & full spectrum LED boards with Samsung LM301H diodes. Samsung most notably highlights this diode carries a PPE of 3.03 μmol/J and includes anti-sulfurization. This unit is dimmable, with wattage output from 100 to 260 (+/- 5%) watts

TOP FEATURES

  • High efficiency LED boards
  • Full-spectrum white Samsung LM301H
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration
  • Dimmer included
  • 3-year warranty
  • Designed to replace a single-ended 500 Watt HID
  • Kit includes LED boards, driver, heatsink, dimmer, hanging kit, and wiring
  • Kit comes fully assembled
SPECIFICATIONS

Power100-260 Watts
LED DiodesSamsung LM301H
Flowering Footprint3’ x 3’
Veg Footprint4' x 4'
Dimensions19.7" x 18.1" x 2.5"
Recommended Mounting Height18-24 inches above canopy
Spectrum Options3000k (flowering - Spectrum shown in Pic); 3500k (veg & flower)
 

Dutchman1990

Member of the Month: Dec 2018 - Grow Journal of the Month: Apr 2019 - Grow Journal of the Year: 2019
Awesome new Series 3 kits @BudgetLED
A few more great products to add to your lineup!
 

Budget LED

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Our Series 3+ Red Spec is out!

Our Series 3+ Red Spec 500 Watt Indoor LED grow light is designed to be the ultimate flowering unit while also being our highest PPE unit available. Each kit utilizes 4 of our custom designed & full spectrum LED boards with Samsung LM301H, LG UV, Osram Deep Red 660nm, and Osram Far Red 730nm. Samsung most notably highlights that the LM301H diode carries a PPE of 3.03 μmol/J and includes anti-sulfurization. This unit is dimmable, with wattage output from 100 to 500 (+/- 5%) watts.

TOP FEATURES
  • High efficiency LED boards
  • Full-spectrum white, 385nm UVA, 660nm deep red, and 730nm far red
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration
  • Dimmer included
  • 3-year warranty
  • Designed to replace a single-ended 1000 Watt HID
  • Kit includes LED boards, driver, heatsink, dimmer, hanging kit, and wiring
SPECIFICATIONS
Power100-500 Watts
LED DiodesSamsung LM301H, LG UVA, Osram 660nm / 730nm
Flowering Footprint4.5' x 4.5'
Veg Footprint6' x 6'
Dimensions26"X20"x3"
Recommended Mounting Height24-36 inches above canopy
Spectrum Options3000k (flowering) or 3500k (veg & flower)

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Budget LED

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We now have an extended heatsink option for all 250w kits! :). The picture looks funny because of the angle. It is rectangle - 35" long.

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TinyBuds

Well-Known Member
I'll be ordering a Series 3 on Wednesday as an early Christmas gift, half from myself and half from my wife. I've been wanting to do business with y'all since I first heard about you. I'm excited for that time to finally be coming.
 
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