Hey Everybody, To me, this looks like Nitrogen Tox. I'm not sure how it happened, I'm nearing the end of my rookie year and have been doing the same feeding routine. I thought I'd experienced almost every problem and calamity possible... but there seems to always be something new. I have flushed the girls twice and was hoping to see some improvement today. I guess "not worse" is good news. Is there anything else I should do? It did not effect my Flowering plants as they get a different nute mix. Everything was going along just fine ... That should have been a warning right there...
Looks Like I Over Did It!
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Def not happy! What are you feeding her? Are you in dirt or something like coco or ProMix?
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Hi protog - that just looks like over watering
The leaves are not dark green; there are no burnt tips
The entire leaf is bloated and curling; the whole plant is limp and pale
If you are in pots, place towels under pots to draw out some excess water maybe?
If the towel becomes wet, there's too much water in the root zone
The leaves are not dark green; there are no burnt tips
The entire leaf is bloated and curling; the whole plant is limp and pale
If you are in pots, place towels under pots to draw out some excess water maybe?
If the towel becomes wet, there's too much water in the root zone
Emilya Green
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I think I agree on this one... the clawing really does look like N toxicity to me. My double suggestion is to first flush the container with 3x the container size of fresh clean water to clear out all the excess. Then, download the FF feeding chart and from now on, follow it to the letter.
Emilya Green
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Then lets look at how you are applying the nutes... are you giving plain pH adjusted water every other time? Are you giving anything in addition to the FF nutes?
@Growings makes some good points re the lack of dark green and no burned tips. It’s likely overwatering.
But let’s look under the hood and analyze the nutrient profile you have been providing, and see if there’s room to optimize that.
Which FF products are you using, and are you following their feed chart?
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Hey Emilya, Thanks. I flushed them twice over 2 days. I will flush again. I started adjusting the pH down about 3 weeks ago...my pH here is 7, city water. I've been hesitant to mess with it since it is still within range. I read that I could create more problems-which I don't need. I've always let the plants get a little dry before watering. Of course, I thought I was being careful with the Nutes. I hope they will recover fast. Thank you for your help.
Emilya Green
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Flushing again would be counter productive. If you are using the word flush to mean you gave plain water, but not to mean that you moved 3x the container size through there, we need to talk. You should adjust the pH of your fluids every time to 6.3, immediately before applying the fluid to the plant. This needs to happen whether it is nutes or just plain water. This could also be over watering, as someone said earlier. If you are not letting the plants get a LOT dry between waterings, like light as a feather and dry all the way down to the bottom, then you are indeed overwatering. If you are not following a f/w/f/w schedule, then you are over fertilizing. Let me please invite you to read my article on how to properly water a potted plant... the link is in my signature.
Emilya Green
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This means you have watered every day... this absolutely can not be correct.
nitrogen tox looks more like canoes curling,, this looks like simple watering issues,, the leaf look is pointing me to overwatering
flushing twice and probly a watering in there too,, drowning in love
flushing twice and probly a watering in there too,, drowning in love
I'm going to weigh in on the side of too much water. The leaves really don't have that dark green, waxy, Nitrogen tox look, and clawing from what I've observed in my grows usually results in thin pointy leaf tips curled down with burnt leaf tips. Certainly a flush to re-set the soil won't hurt (and you already did that), but you can't continually dump water on them without a drying period. It'll cause root damage.
Since you are in fabric pots…. dont let them sit in a wet spot, use grill grate or oven rack to improvise but elevate a grate above tent floor place your grow bag on top and put fan moving air underneath fabric pots
if your tent is sitting on concrete floor or tile floor that can cause cold feet / wet feet on your chicks. use sheet foam to insulate slab and wood pallet or two to elevate tent above slab. An indoor or covered concrete slab stays about 55 degrees all year long….
if your tent is sitting on concrete floor or tile floor that can cause cold feet / wet feet on your chicks. use sheet foam to insulate slab and wood pallet or two to elevate tent above slab. An indoor or covered concrete slab stays about 55 degrees all year long….
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OK, I am totally confused. I don't water every day, many times the leaves are drooping. That way I know they are thirsty . I will start adjusting pH for everything. And read your article.
My girls sit off the floor, which is wood. They don't get cold. There are a lot of things that they get, but not cold feet.
Thanks for all the help. Hopefully, recovery photos will follow soon!
My girls sit off the floor, which is wood. They don't get cold. There are a lot of things that they get, but not cold feet.
Thanks for all the help. Hopefully, recovery photos will follow soon!
yes,, you are indeed. your plant got this far i might suggest. so all is good.
chill out with the water for a cpl days. and lessen the nutes a touch too perhaps. just for caution sake
i see buddage in your future friend
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