Plant Alchemy With KNF: Korean Natural Farming And Jadam

[Azimuth]

I'm going to adjust things a bit given the success of the SIP buckets and the dramatically bigger flower space in my new cabinet ( ) .

I have been running with a monthly (4 week) harvest with three plants in flower and I'm going to change to two plants and 6 weeks between harvests. I can tell the SIP harvests are going to be significantly larger than I'm used to and I don't really need all that much.

The buckets themselves are larger at 2 Gallons, and the SIPs just simply grow bigger and better plants. Of course, with only two plants they'll each be able to be larger so we'll see how that goes. I'm liking these 2 gallon buckets too much to switch to something smaller although I may sometimes add a 1L plant to see how it fits in.

I think the 6 week schedule will fit these SIPs better anyway. I've found all the plants I grown in these require an initial two week adjustment period, so that plus 4 weeks of proper veg should give me a decent sized plant to flip into flower.

I did like the more frequent turnover of plants of the 4 week schedule, but the larger harvests may actually work out better since there will be more in storage with a corresponding increase in the time spent curing for at least some of it.

My new plant is the seedling started in mid-sept so this weekend will mark the 6 week period and it will replace my Northern Lights 5 that I'll harvest then as well. That one had a mite issue so the harvest will be compromised, but it's the first of my buckets to finish so a bit of a milestone.

 

[CBDMed]

I'm going to adjust things a bit given the success of the SIP buckets and the dramatically bigger flower space in my new cabinet ( ) .

I have been running with a monthly (4 week) harvest with three plants in flower and I'm going to change to two plants and 6 weeks between harvests. I can tell the SIP harvests are going to be significantly larger than I'm used to and I don't really need all that much.

The buckets themselves are larger at 2 Gallons, and the SIPs just simply grow bigger and better plants. Of course, with only two plants they'll each be able to be larger so we'll see how that goes. I'm liking these 2 gallon buckets too much to switch to something smaller although I may sometimes add a 1L plant to see how it fits in.

I think the 6 week schedule will fit these SIPs better anyway. I've found all the plants I grown in these require an initial two week adjustment period, so that plus 4 weeks of proper veg should give me a decent sized plant to flip into flower.

I did like the more frequent turnover of plants of the 4 week schedule, but the larger harvests may actually work out better since there will be more in storage with a corresponding increase in the time spent curing for at least some of it.

My new plant is the seedling started in mid-sept so this weekend will mark the 6 week period and it will replace my Northern Lights 5 that I'll harvest then as well. That one had a mite issue so the harvest will be compromised, but it's the first of my buckets to finish so a bit of a milestone.

Congratulations on the first milestone! And thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise!

 

[Azimuth]

For those with more interest in following SIPs, I've started a SIP Club thread where we'll talk all things SIP, how to grow with them, build them, the theory behind them and have links out to other growers using them.

Stop by and have a look!

 

[Azimuth]

I'm going to park this here. It's a good overview of the basics of the cannabinoids found in cannabis.

 

[Azimuth]

And next up in Azi Land after I rerun the NL5 that's in the on-deck circle is going to be my CBD plant called ACDC. Here's a bit of the medical background for CBD:

 

[scottreid1966]

And next up in Azi Land after I rerun the NL5 that's in the on-deck circle is going to be my CBD plant called ACDC. Here's a bit of the medical background for CBD:

I tried making Richard S. oil but didn't work out, it was too dark. How did you learn how to do it? Was it a you-tube video?I even used 2 thermometers to maintain even heat of the cooking oil and product. Followed it to the detail.

I am in the midst of trimming my other 2 outdoor ladies. Didn't get as much sun as the others so the buds are loose and leafy so it will be used for hash but would also like to retry CBD oils. I tried some from Hexo, like Bill uses, even before I joined here but didn't seem to make a difference. After watching the first video, it could be because my dose was too low.

Thanks for the video's.
Cheers!

 

[Azimuth]

I tried making Richard S. oil but didn't work out, it was too dark. How did you learn how to do it?

I haven't even grown the damn plant yet! Sheesh. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Here's a link for CCO - Concentrated Cannabis Oil

 

[Azimuth]

My CBG 'Seed to SIP' plant in my new design 2G bucket is about a week into flower and looks as good as ever. This is one robust plant. I ended up removing all the fishing weights since they weren't doing anything and were starting to get swallowed up by the buds.

It will be interesting to see if it can make it all the way to harvest on just worm castings. Normally I'd repot right before flip into some fresh mix but this one sprouted and vegged for six weeks before I flipped her all in the same bucket of my mix. I did add a new layer of castings when I flipped and add a little more each week.

It's actually got a bit of clawing going on so have some excess nitrogen, but I'm OK with that at this point as I want to see how far it can go with little to no other nutes other than the castings.

My other, older plant in flower, and the first of my new design 2G bucket, is easily the best plant I've ever grown. She's on day 4 of draughting and so far is nonplussed, but three or four more days of this will show her I mean business. She's had easy access to water every day of her life so this will be a bit of a stressor for her which I guess is the whole idea.

I also took a couple of clones from my ACDC CBD plant that I want to flower after the NL5 that's in the on-deck circle to re-run the one just harvested that had mites. I started a new ACDC mother from a cutting of the original seedling which is getting old and tired and the nodal spacing is just too great for my space.

For the new mother, I have LST'd her around the lip of a 1L container and finally got a couple of stems long enough to cut for clones. This seems to be a good way to do it since the best cuts are supposed to come from healthy growth further down the plant but not the tip.

The SIP certainly grows a healthy plant and those cuts are as well. Assuming I can get roots in about 10 days I'll have to figure out what to do since the on-deck circle likely won't be open but I've had trouble rooting this plant so I figured I'd start early and often as I really want to run this one next in the lineup.

 

[Azimuth]

Well, 60* in mid November but colder temps and maybe snow on the way so this seemed like as good a day as I'm going to get to expand my comfrey plot. Since I want to use it as my major nute input I figured I'd dig up some roots and multiply my planting. I made 5 new plants which I hope will double my harvest next year and then increase from there as the plants mature.

Because of the super long tap root and the fact that these plants are easily propagated by root cuttings, I consider their new spots to be permanent. They will own that plot of soil forever. I have the Bocking 14 version which is sterile so at least it won't spread through seeds.

I also harvested my Stinging Nettle roots which are supposed to make a healthy tea. I grew it in a very large SIP container so it should be no surprise that I was pretty disappointed with the root harvest. Lots of small feeder roots like I get in my buckets. Next year I'll probably split some off and grow in a large normal pot and let it do the wet/dry thing to try for more rootage.

Altogether though, I was pretty pleased with this season's results in my quest to grow our favorite plant mostly on stuff I grow in my yard. My grow mix is largely leaf mold made from my mature maple and oak trees, my nutes mostly worm castings that are supplemented with comfrey and stinging nettle from my garden plus all of my amendments, and my water harvested from the clouds above. Combine all that with my SIPs and I've got a pretty sustainable grow not all that dependent on the outside world for most of what's needed.

I still rely on electricity and lights, and use inputs like malted barley, neem, karanja and crustacean meals as supplements, and sand and pumice in my mix, so there is still a need for things I can't/don't produce myself, but I think overall it's pretty good.

I'm not quite where I want to be just yet, but have definitely made some major progress this year.

 

[nick5311]

Hi Azi, I just wanted to take a moment to say thanks for the wealth of knowledge you've posted here... I just recently learned about KNF/JADAM and have also been always been interested in what I call 'elegantly simple automation'. I got into the hobby about 10 years ago because I needed opioid alternatives for my chronically ill wife and I was always chasing a "just add water" technique because it felt like people overcomplicate nutrients for cannabis. In recent years I've been able to purchase bulk CBD distillate and stepped away from growing (not in a friendly state). Anyway, after some searching for SIPs and KNF I found your thread I will be trying to do something similar - organic SIP using what I can find/create in my backyard/area when at all possible.

 

[Azimuth]

Welcome, Nick! Glad to have you.

That's my thing. I want to grow our favorite plant in a healthy way using mostly stuff I can grow in my yard. Still not quite there but, I am getting closer!

 

[nick5311]

I've been deep diving into biochar (I'm suddenly in love with organic gardening) - I wanted to know if I could replace perlite with biochar and came upon a few interesting vids:

 

[Azimuth]

Thanks! I'll have a gander.

I remember seeing several experiments where the outcomes suggested anything more than 20% or so decreased the effectiveness. Of course with biochar there's a substantial filtering and absorption effect until the char is fully charged so who knows.

I keep mine to about 12% of my mix.

 

[StoneOtter]

And next up in Azi Land after I rerun the NL5 that's in the on-deck circle is going to be my CBD plant called ACDC. Here's a bit of the medical background for CBD:

ACDC is half of Candida

 

[Azimuth]

Cross posted from #SIP Club:

Today is day 19 for my recent up-pot into the 2Gallon bucket. I used a well established clone with a good root system. It handled the transition to the bucket quite well with no droop and had a nice healthy color from the start.

But, for the first 14 days it basically just sat there seemingly not doing much as it worked on getting its roots converted to what it will need going forward. The tips of the branches turned upward but there was not much growth on them at all.

After the two week adjustment period new growth and bulk has kicked in and we are off! Water usage has increased as measured with my dipstick.

So my conclusion is that, at least in my environment, there does not seem to be a way to speed up the transition period. It's basically 2 weeks for both seedlings and established clones to adjust.

So changing my perpetual from harvesting one plant per month to one every 6 weeks should work out pretty well as I'll have a 2 week transition period plus 4 weeks of veg before flipping into the flower box. That changes the flower box from three plants down to two, but the two are much bigger plants so it should work out great.

 

[Bode]

Highya Azimuth,

Do you use mycorhizae of any kind? That will help with transplant. I'm guessing you do use JADAM's Microbe Solution. I thought that would help. Do you use organic nutrients? Bonemeal? Will help with root growth. I read an article a couple years ago about making a "mycorhizae patch", a place where they cultivated their own myco plot! That's about all I can think of quickly. Happy Smokin'

 

[Azimuth]

Thanks, @Bode. I don't use mycorhizae, at least not yet. My grow mix is about 40% fresh leaf mold so I assume I get some of those good microbes that way. Now that I'm getting settled growing in SIPs I'll probably start experimenting with different aspects of that.

@ReservoirDog is doing some interesting things to cultivate and grow his own active microbes so maybe I'll bend his ear about exactly how to go about that.

As for the time delay in getting the SIPs to engage, I really think that is simply the plant needing to adapt its root type to the new conditions which I think is a different situation than just generally adding the myco to help overall root growth.

I don't use bonemeal. Comfrey and S.Nettle are my two main inputs and for next year I'll be running them through my worm bin to pre-process. I also add malted barley, neem, karanja, and crustacean meals, as well as azomite, stone dust, and biochar. I'm trying to stay away from the bone and blood meals if I can. The comfrey, s. nettle and leaf mold should have most of what's needed by the plants from NPK to all of the minerals, but I add the other things as a holdover from the Coot's Mix I started with. That will be another thing I experiment with, to see if I can eliminate what I can't produce in my yard and see if I get any glaring deficiencies.

The SIPs really have been a game changer for me, and now I want to see if I can simplify things even more.

Maybe not though, so good thought. I'll add that to my experiment list.

 

[CBDMed]

I don't use bonemeal.

Hi Azi.
Just out of curiosity, why not?

 

[Azimuth]

Hi Azi.
Just out of curiosity, why not?

I don't like the hormones, antibiotiocs and gawd knows what else big ag injects into the animals that likely end up in some part into the tissues that eventually would find their way to my garden and then into me. No thank you.

I can say that our grain supply seems forever tainted with their gmo crap making farmers ever dependent on those companies for their future. Monsanto has gmo seeds with built in insecticides so the farmer doesn't have to spray for pests, including apparently that pesky honey bee that is being killed off indiscriminately along with everything else.

And, the companies have a patent on those seeds which prohibit farmers from growing their own seeds for future crops which makes them ever dependent and so have to continually buy from big ag.

Their salt based fertilizers are poisoning the world's farm land making them dependent on those petroleum based inputs forever more.

It sounds like a big conspiracy theory until you start researching Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and their efforts to control the world through the World Economic Forum and "The Great Reset." The motto? "You will own nothing and be happy about it."

Their aim is to essentially control the world with one socialist government including everything from world population, to energy, food and medicine (hence the worldwide efforts to force everyone to get the covid shot that was very hastily produced and now seems to be giving rise to increased health issues like cancers and autoimmune diseases thru the spike protein that gets injected).

So, no thank you to them and their World Domination. Stay the hell out of my life as I can make my own decisions and don't need the wealthy elite imposing their corrupt views on me, thank you.

I can trace some of my health issues to allergic reactions to common foods like grains and soy eventually rendering me unable to swallow food. The medical community's "solution?" Have me take steroids for the rest of my life. But any qualified doctor with tell you that treating a chronic life-long condition with steroids is a  very bad idea.

So, I deal with my issue by growing our favorite plant organically in the best way I can. It resolved that and many of my other ailments without resorting to the chemicals modern medicine seems so enamored with, even with the incredible side effects that come with them. Ancient remedies like the Chinese have been using for millennia are not only frowned upon but, in some cases like cannabis, are outlawed.

So, f*ck them and their paternalistic views on what I can do with my body. All they want to do is push drugs on us. I went to the doctor for a check-up many years ago and the blood tests revealed my cholesterol was a bit elevated. The proposed solution? A pill I had to take for the rest of my life which subsequently has been shown to cause certain cancers. No discussion of my diet or exercise was ever raised. The doctor went straight for the drugs. It seems there's no money for Big Pharma in healthy living.

So, yes, I'm a bit jaded. I'm happy to have qualified medical professionals suggest possible solutions to health issues, but when politicians with no medical background mandate what I can/will do with my body, well, they can all just fuck off.

Rant over.

 

[Bode]

Highya Azimuth,

I'm much like you in most of those respects. I never thought much about what else could be in bonemeal. I don't mind using organic products to supplement my grow, though. All those "bad things" in animals bodies have to get through all the processes inside the animals (hormones, steroids, etc) Digestion, liver, etc. Then, the plant's roots ingest what the plant wants by way of exudates. Not only all this, but cannabis is noted for leaving tainted soil better than before planting. I don't know how, but given all those things, I have confidence in our plant that it won't ruin me physically. Happy Smokin'