Plant Dad
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Keep pictures coming. Love to see the progression of your plants. They look great by the way!
When to flip outdoors: advice please
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Trustyrusty
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Thanks, and will do
My crop - two Bubblegum about 14 weeks since seedling in foreground, and a 7-week Alpine Star (CBD) at the back – for those times I don’t want to risk driving.
Cruising right along!
Just to clarify, amber represents the THC degrading to CBN, which is the cannabinoid that causes couchlock/body stone.
Enjoil
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Can you get a nug shot?Thanks, and will do
My crop - two Bubblegum about 14 weeks since seedling in foreground, and a 7-week Alpine Star (CBD) at the back – for those times I don’t want to risk driving.
PaleSun
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Hi Shed, I've never really felt this thing called "body stone". Maybe I'm missing something good, but drug affect everyone a little differently. What I have found is a nice sedating effect with about 20% amber trichomes. This is entirely subjective, but I find it something nice in the evening. In the past, premature harvesting has produced speedy-paranoia high.
The nice sedating effect is the CBN in the plants that you find speedy when harvested early. Enough CBN and you lose most of the "high" and just end up melted into the couch/bed. Folks who want serious nighttime meds will often let their plants go really long and then dry and cure them poorly, which degrades THC to CBN even further.
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Trustyrusty
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Not sure - what is it?
These any good? Taken this morning. Trichomes are whitening, a few amber ones on bud leaves.
Enjoil
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Yeah, perfect. They looking nice! Did you grab that pk booster? Easy does it but give em a shot of that and you almost done!Not sure - what is it?
These any good? Taken this morning. Trichomes are whitening, a few amber ones on bud leaves.
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Trustyrusty
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pk booster? I missed that advice.
I’ve been using this (below) all along. As they are in tomato/vegetable growing potting mix I alternate waterings with just water, ie nutrients every second water.
The only problem with that one is it's low in phosphorus, so a P booster might have been helpful earlier, but I don't think it will do much good this late in the game. I'd feed with this stuff every time though.
Stoneface Jack
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I just tried to link an article from a website called Cannabis Business Times. It came up either on another thread here or on another forum. It deals with the question of how useful P is during flower. If I remember correctly it indicated that P is needed more in veg and during the transition into flowering.
Had to do some digging to find the article. Here it is.
The site has some interesting articles about various subjects. Mostly for a professional cultivation standpoint, but some of it is applicable to us, like their article on flushing.
Had to do some digging to find the article. Here it is.
The site has some interesting articles about various subjects. Mostly for a professional cultivation standpoint, but some of it is applicable to us, like their article on flushing.
Enjoil
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I start liquid koolbloom about week3-4 and continue that til about week 7 hit em with the powder koolbloom and hit em with that a couple times and they done. It helps ripening I think.... the switch from the liquid to the powder koolbloom. And yeah my bad I got threads mixed up, I didn’t say anything about using a pk booster to you.
Great article! I agree that our plants don't need anywhere near as much P as the manufacturers tell us they do (especially in flower), but I think a 12-2-13 mix is low on P generally.
I don't recall saying you had.
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PaleSun
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Hi @Stoneface Jack That was a good article. Thank you for posting it. It presses the point I've been pushing for a while, "What do we really know". There's a lot of commercial assertion and home grower conjecture. I think theres likely a lot of proprietary research going on, but we as home growers will not be privy to those results. Some of those numbers will be difficult for the home gardener to work with. Eg: ppm of 1 single element (K)
One of the ideas I've been considering is there really a need for such frequent fertilizing, with daily watering. During vegetative growth I've been using a high concentration NPK into a pretty generic potting mix, once every 7to10 days (outdoors). Straight water in between as needed. Net result, lush 2m tall plants.
Usually I back off 50% on fertilizing once flowering starts, but here's the rub. As long as we provide the minimum that the plant requires, and don't exceed excessively, causing either toxicity or elemental lockout, as in their comments re: K Ca Mg, then there are no magic ratios like the Cannabis Nutrient industry is trying to sell.
One of the ideas I've been considering is there really a need for such frequent fertilizing, with daily watering. During vegetative growth I've been using a high concentration NPK into a pretty generic potting mix, once every 7to10 days (outdoors). Straight water in between as needed. Net result, lush 2m tall plants.
Usually I back off 50% on fertilizing once flowering starts, but here's the rub. As long as we provide the minimum that the plant requires, and don't exceed excessively, causing either toxicity or elemental lockout, as in their comments re: K Ca Mg, then there are no magic ratios like the Cannabis Nutrient industry is trying to sell.
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Trustyrusty
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Getting there...
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Trustyrusty
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In two days I have to fly interstate for five days. I think I will trim a few early harvest buds just in case, but I reckon the two plants are definitely too early to harvest ...agreed? A few trichomes are whitish, and even one or two on the small leaves have turned amber, but most are crystal clear. Just a bit worried that seven days from now I might have missed the THC window and I’ll be in CBD territory. Any thoughts appreciated
(I also have watering and drying-time issues for both the unharvested and the harvested weed. Does five days sound too long for drying before I place in jars? Moderately humid here)
(I also have watering and drying-time issues for both the unharvested and the harvested weed. Does five days sound too long for drying before I place in jars? Moderately humid here)
PaleSun
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Last drying I let go for 13/14 days. Five days sounds too fast for sure. Chlorophyll degrades during the first 3/4 days of drying. If your buds dry too fast they'll have that grassy cheap 70s Homegrown taste and be harsh. If you can keep temperatures to 19/20c and Rh at 55% you'll have a good drying period. Hanging the plants either whole, or in large sections helps slow the drying too.
I think you will be fine not harvesting before your trip.
For the record, THC degrades to CBN not CBD. CBN is the cannabinoid responsible for body stone/couch lock. CBD can't be generated by a plant not designed to have much, just by letting it get overripe.
I rarely hang for as long as PaleSun did, but five days is too short if you can go longer. The longer you hang without overdrying, the less time you need to spend burping the jars.