Blazinjones's Hydro - Ebb 'n Flow - Grow Journal - 2016

[Blazinjones]

Ok so i can use this vinegar? its distilled white vinegar and filterd water is wat it says for ingredients

 

[millertm]

You got that backwards, Brother! Vinegar is acidic...it will lower PH just like lemon juice. Baking soda will raise the PH.

I stand corrected

pH of Common Chemicals

Glad I use PH DOWN or I might have been in trouble.

Thanks

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[mooshu]

Yeah, but remember to add your nutes before you PH adjust

if you don't mind me asking why would you ad ph after your nutes?

 

[millertm]

Oh, lemon juice is PH 2, I though I've seen it used before. Vinegar is a new one.

Cheers

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[mooshu]

why not just top feed. it be similar to my set up but you would just have a table so replace the tubes I use to drain to waste. good lookin set up non the less

 

[Mr. Krip]

Ok so i can use this vinegar? its distilled white vinegar and filterd water is wat it says for ingredients

Yes!!!

 

[Blazinjones]

K so im havn numerous people tell me i shud do the ph adjusting b4 nutes and sum r telln me 2 do it aftr so im wondering what is best do the nutes b4 or aftr i adjust the ph and thanx again krip n millertm for all the help i appreciate it u guys r helpn me alit threw this grow lol

 

[Mr. Krip]

if you don't mind me asking why would you ad ph after your nutes?

K so im havn numerous people tell me i shud do the ph adjusting b4 nutes and sum r telln me 2 do it aftr so im wondering what is best do the nutes b4 or aftr i adjust the ph and thanx again krip n millertm for all the help i appreciate it u guys r helpn me alit threw this grow lol

Because your nutes will throw the PH back off.

 

[Blazinjones]

Thts wat i kept thinkn so thts y i askd cuz it didnt mak any sense 2 me

 

[mooshu]

Because your nutes will throw the PH back off.

o ok ive always added it because I run pure water before nutes to give the buckets a good clean slate to work with then add nutes ,, then adjust as so... I was worried the nutes were gonna get off.

remember to add Micro before Bloom and Grow

 

[millertm]

The back of most nutes will say to mix feed then PH. It keeps PPM down. Using nutes on PH 7 water will drop it under 5. Then you add PH up to get to 5.5. If you just mix tap and nutes you only add PH (anything) once.

Cheers

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[Mr. Krip]

Oh, lemon juice is PH 2, I though I've seen it used before. Vinegar is a new one.

Cheers

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Advantages of being an "old timer"

Using Vinegar For Lowering pH

 

[millertm]

Eh, I see. I'm soil, I still need to learn hydro. It's on my list.

Thanks

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[mooshu]

say for nutes I use the flora series as well, if I have like 20 gls of water I do enough for like 4 gls. less is always beter then full.

 

[mooshu]

sorry I'm just reading the beginning of this journal.

 

[Blazinjones]

K so i changed water in res. With water from the brita filter n added nutes thn did the vinegar 2 tryn bring the ph down but aftr i added the nutes the ph jus stayd at 6.5

 

[millertm]

I've seen that too. It's saturated, can you check PPM?

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[Blazinjones]

Im waitn for the tds tester n the ph pen 2 get here in the mail do u no of any otherways 2 check it

 

[millertm]

Not PPM, only tester. PH test strip's are cheap but very general. Just a question for you please don't take it wrong. Why start in ebb and flow? Soil is a forgiving medium and is great to learn and improve your skills. Hydro is faster but you can kill your plants quickly and it requires much more attention then soil.

Cheers

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[Mr. Krip]

Not PPM, only tester. PH test strip's are cheap but very general. Just a question for you please don't take it wrong. Why start in ebb and flow? Soil is a forgiving medium and is great to learn and improve your skills. Hydro is faster but you can kill your plants quickly and it requires much more attention then soil.

Cheers

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Actually, I don't think there's anything wrong with starting in hydro BUT, if you're going to do hydro (or even soil!) you MUST monitor and control PH. Soil is more forgiving because of the buffers in the soil, but proper PH is critical for any grow and even more so for hydro.