Breaking Brix: Buck's DIYs

[Buckshot317]

Yea that sounds great. I've been growing for around 20 years. But until I joined this site, I was doing things pretty simple. I used to mix my own dirt from riverbank, throw a fish in it, and some compost from grannies garden. She used to say less is more, if you had good dirt you shouldn't have to add a lot of fertilizer. I started inside about 5 years ago, using same river dirt and done pretty good, I thought. When I joined 420, that's when I switched to the fancy dirt and nutes. It kinda went to hell on me, just now getting everything controllable again. That's why I'm giving docs kit a try, seems simpler, and it reminds me of grandparents, they always talked about feeding the soil. I don't think they ever used any pesticides or man made fertilizer. When I started using commercial products I started having ph problems, it's hard to believe, but mites seem to have gotten worse.

I'm with ya on experimenting. If I have dedicated rooms, make it easier to try new things. I've never tried a proper scrog grow yet, I normally just top a few times and do some basic lst.

That was one hell of a turnaround on your plants man. From the pics you done amazing job getting them back in shape.

 

[Buckshot317]

Here's a pic of girls sleeping. I'm happy so far with this grow. When I put them in 5x5 they was kinda of in rough shape, mites. After getting humidity up, and more air moving, and spraying (safer 3in1, and mite massacre) 5 times. They have a good green color, new growth seems like bright healthy green.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

When I started in the 90s I would combine organic materials like seabird guano and EWC in a bucket and bubble it, then feed that to the girls. I got lost in ebb flow hydro for several years and then just went back to organics using Docs kit. I think you are gonna live it. It's simple and it also leaves a lot of room for personal style. I haven't done a scrog either but see it really as the best way to make use of these high efficiency LEDs.

Thanks for the vote of confidence on the ladies. I just brought the soil life back in line and it took care of the rest. I can't wait to see what my girls will do with 1000+ PPFD. I just popped 72 seeds and all came up so it's gonna be a hoot. (And lots of work too.)

 

[Buckshot317]

I'm wanting to try 1 plant, for a 5x5 scrog. Use 25 or bigger pot, let veg for 3 or 4 months. I think clones are much more suited for scrogging, just how their limb structure, they are not as rigid as some plant from seed

 

[ShiggityFlip]

I'm not much of a seedling guy myself. I like to work with clones. A lot of people do prefer seedlings for scrog. 1 plant per 4x4...topped for four branches each one going out and filling the scrog perfectly from the x pattern. Fill 60-70% and flip.

But I would only dedicate a 4x4 to a proven pheno.

 

[Buckshot317]

I have a bunch of different seeds I haven't tried yet. I'm trying to find some good prospects, why I haven't taken many clones. Now my current grow, all but 3 are clones from last grow. I'll get list of what seeds I have and post it. Really some opinions on which would be best to do with my first run of doc's kit

 

[Buckshot317]

This pick is from Thursday

This pic is from today

I was just comparing the pics with the fan in the background. A noticeable difference for less than 3 days. Looks like I might get decent stretch.

 

[bobrown14]

Great setup Buck.... looks top shelf right there.. how's the temp in the room??

 

[Buckshot317]

Great setup Buck.... looks top shelf right there.. how's the temp in the room??

Temps been Hovering around 80 to 82

 

[Mikeof8]

Hey there new to the cobs world been reading as much as I can find about it but I'm still a Lil lost had a budget for a Cree setup for a 4x8 tent really a (35"x94") but family emergency came n ended up wit a $1000 budget. looking for the best setup n energy efficiency dat I can get wit ya help. I will really appreciate all the help I can get thanks

 

[JimmyJames905]

Hey there new to the cobs world been reading as much as I can find about it but I'm still a Lil lost had a budget for a Cree setup for a 4x8 tent really a (35"x94") but family emergency came n ended up wit a $1000 budget. looking for the best setup n energy efficiency dat I can get wit ya help. I will really appreciate all the help I can get thanks

At that price you could buy 20 Vero 29 with drivers.

 

[Buckshot317]

Hey there new to the cobs world been reading as much as I can find about it but I'm still a Lil lost had a budget for a Cree setup for a 4x8 tent really a (35"x94") but family emergency came n ended up wit a $1000 budget. looking for the best setup n energy efficiency dat I can get wit ya help. I will really appreciate all the help I can get thanks

When I get home tonight,I'll get on computer. You'll probably get enough chips to do a 4x4, then add on a little bit at a time until it's complete

 

[Mikeof8]

Dat will be great thanks

 

[Buckshot317]

Dat will be great thanks

Just wrote down some numbers. If you get 16 Cree 3590's, heatsinks, holders+lenses+clamps. It comes in at $1314, still have to get wire, potentiometers(couple dollars), and aluminum for your frame. Also that price includes 4 meanwell drivers(200 watts a piece)


16 vero29's, everything but wire,pots, and aluminum comes up to $1064

If you went citizen 1212 , that comes in under $900.

All of them are good, but Cree or vero would be best bet. Vero around $300 cheaper.

 

[JimmyJames905]

Buck's 1500 Watts Of Vero 29

For a 4x8 two 9 cob Vero on a HLG-480h-c1400 is a great solution.
Two 42x42" frame. COBs spaced 12". $560 to build for each 9 cob.
You probably don't need that many though.

 

[Buckshot317]

I didn't know how hard he wants to run them. The 70v throw out some light almost 20000lum, that's the c series ain't

 

[JimmyJames905]

I didn't know how hard he wants to run them. The 70v throw out some light almost 20000lum, that's the c series ain't

That's the 36.6 D. The Gen7, not the SE.
You can run 9.4 D series COBs on the HLG-480
53w per cob.

 

[Buckshot317]

I forgot about that monster, that saves more money. If a man had high ceilings, you could blast a few c series at 100w a piece. I saw one in action over a 5x10 room. They was growing trees with 20 cobs

 

[JimmyJames905]

Buck's 1500 Watts Of Vero 29

You get the same results with the B series. Only 120+ μmoles less. You can build a 2 Cob B for $140 US. C will cost you $200 due to the 100w heatsinks.
You can drive 5 C series on the HLG-480 at 96w. Dim down to 90w and you can get away with the SST133.

 

[Buckshot317]

At least a 140x80mm. I think they bought 3 900w timber kits. Had rest in another room