I would look into Los (living organic soil)
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Yea i have and thats why i figure im just misunderstanding what should be going on. im not in a postition where i can actually mix my own soil from scratch with ease. im not intersted in using bottled nutes so becuase of that i dont know where to start as far as soil. i just started looking at coco but i dont think i wanna go that route either.
The living soil is what i am trying to do indoors. i dont have easy access to alot of products except online.but my main question is what soil should i start with. I think i get the concept of keeping the soil alive .. i just dont want to kill it before i startYes, there is a lot of confusion when it come to organic.
One can be organic just by going with natural and non synthetic... so that being said, there are totally organic bottled nutrients out there. The problem is that there is living organic, and just organic. Just organic is not enough to grow our plants, unless you keep feeding artificially and you can do this with organic nutrients or synthetic nutrients.
You cease to be organic as soon as you throw a chemical in there. Chlorine is one of those chemicals. Put that in your soil, and you have just stopped the living part of the organic. If you use tap water, you may be growing naturally and with no synthetic nutrients, and organic in the sense that it is naturally based organic growing, but without life, to me it is just another form of synthetic... follow me here... synthetic organic.
You can be organic and still not have the nutrients you need to grow our plant. You have to have what the plants need in the soil, and that accumulation of elements might happen out in the outdoors, but typically not in a container of soil. You can build a soil or use a good composted supersoil as a base under a fox farm or other good organic soil, and as long as you keep the soil alive (with living microbes in it), you can actually get through your entire grow without any deficiencies or any additional feeding. If your soil has been built with all of the minerals in it that will be needed, such as with bloom spikes and good long term NPK raw materials in the soil, you will not need to add anything but good water to the container and the microlife will take care of feeding the plants. Top feeding is from the mindset that you are still a synthetic grower, having to supply everything to the plants. In a true living organic grow, there is no such need. All you need to do is to make sure that the microlife stay active and in high population and they will feed your plants using the materials you have left in the soil. In a true living organic grow, you might "fertilize" from the top with supplements, but these are designed to supercharge the plant, not feed it perse.
Our plants can be very needy, they are weeds after all. They do tend to need more calcium and magnesium than can be pre-built into a soil without locking out other nutrients, and so even in an organic grow, oftentimes we need to add additional. Other than that, if you have correctly built your soil and don't kill it, all these plants need is water. The nutrient companies don't want you to know that... but it is the truth. Anytime you need a reminder, look out your back window at all the plants out there that don't have gardeners such as you feeding them.
coco is about as synthetic as you can get, and that demands that you use bottled nutes.
Im not finding this SubCool ready to go mix
I had a question about chlorine. I am just cooking my no till mix. Will start to use in a month. I have always filled a reservoir (100L) with tap water to degass the chlorine. Sits for a week. Is this enough to remove that as a factor? Or should I be buying a rain barrel? No chloramine in the municipal supply thankfully.Yes, there is a lot of confusion when it come to organic.
One can be organic just by going with natural and non synthetic... so that being said, there are totally organic bottled nutrients out there. The problem is that there is living organic, and just organic. Just organic is not enough to grow our plants, unless you keep feeding artificially and you can do this with organic nutrients or synthetic nutrients.
You cease to be organic as soon as you throw a chemical in there. Chlorine is one of those chemicals. Put that in your soil, and you have just stopped the living part of the organic. If you use tap water, you may be growing naturally and with no synthetic nutrients, and organic in the sense that it is naturally based organic growing, but without life, to me it is just another form of synthetic... follow me here... synthetic organic.
You can be organic and still not have the nutrients you need to grow our plant. You have to have what the plants need in the soil, and that accumulation of elements might happen out in the outdoors, but typically not in a container of soil. You can build a soil or use a good composted supersoil as a base under a fox farm or other good organic soil, and as long as you keep the soil alive (with living microbes in it), you can actually get through your entire grow without any deficiencies or any additional feeding. If your soil has been built with all of the minerals in it that will be needed, such as with bloom spikes and good long term NPK raw materials in the soil, you will not need to add anything but good water to the container and the microlife will take care of feeding the plants. Top feeding is from the mindset that you are still a synthetic grower, having to supply everything to the plants. In a true living organic grow, there is no such need. All you need to do is to make sure that the microlife stay active and in high population and they will feed your plants using the materials you have left in the soil. In a true living organic grow, you might "fertilize" from the top with supplements, but these are designed to supercharge the plant, not feed it perse.
Our plants can be very needy, they are weeds after all. They do tend to need more calcium and magnesium than can be pre-built into a soil without locking out other nutrients, and so even in an organic grow, oftentimes we need to add additional. Other than that, if you have correctly built your soil and don't kill it, all these plants need is water. The nutrient companies don't want you to know that... but it is the truth. Anytime you need a reminder, look out your back window at all the plants out there that don't have gardeners such as you feeding them.
if your community is using actual chlorine, it can be off gassed by sitting out and should be fine for an organic garden.
Sorry Bob, but that is why they are moving to it... it does not evaporate out, so it is much cheaper for communities to use. Chloramine is easy to get out of there though, and one vitamin C tab will drop all of the chloramine out of the solution of a bathtub sized amount of water. This by the way is a very effective way to evaporate out the chlorine in water you are going to use in the garden... just let a bathtub full of water sit overnight.
There are many many places where I live that have these empty blue plastic 55-gallon barrels and they sell for about 10 or $15 used. You just have to drive around and find a place that has them stacked up behind the business. I believe we got ours from a place that purchased Worcestershire sauce in those barrels when they were new.
