SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

[KingstonRabbi]

Bio Bombs are great! But....

My wife has rheumatoid arthritis, and whatever else...and was taking powerful pharmaceuticals for the inflammation and pain.

She started with a 20:1 Bomb, twice a day.. suppository... almost immediate results.

After that batch.. I guess a week or so, she moved up to 10:1... again further improvement in sleep quality, inflammation and pain..
And she had early "tingles" that she said felt like it was healing things...

And then a couple weeks she moved up to 5:1. This is cancer-treatment level and we decided to try it to see what effect.
She's been using 5:1 for about a month now, and her health has improved a lot. She still has the odd bad day, but an extra Bomb helps, along with our vaporiser .

So, now, we must evaluate "What's next?"... do we stay at 5:1? The only alternative is to reduce.

We were thinking about this a lot, and she feels a bit "loaded" with cannabis. Not polluted, but almost too much. She a pretty "in touch" person and I trust her interpretation of the signals her body is sending her. (from her ECS, Sue??).

So, this week we made up a slightly lower dose batch at 7:1.. and we are trying to pay attention to any change.

Its further confused by her having a "flare up". Is this a normal flare up? We think so, triggered by some stressful times... We don't THINK its caused by the reduction in cannabinoids in her system.

We will keep on with the 7:1 and pay attention, and let you know.

Sue, I wasn't sure if you wanted this in the new BB thread or not?

Something I learned during my treatment is that cannabinoids get stored in fat and released slowly back into blood stream. I thought it was just metabolites that were stored which is what causes people to test positive weeks or months later.

But THC get stored also and does not degrade. With low doses the storage and re-release has very little effect. But at higher doses the amount stored and re-released is enough to cause a mild continual haze. At least that's how I felt. Even though the dose taken as suppository didn't cause me to get high, the re-released THC does get metabolized and cause mild highs. A couple times before I realized what was happening I went too long without eating, started burning fat which released stored THC rapidly and I got quite a buzz.

It took about a month after I dropped my dosage for the loaded feeling to go away. My current dosage is about 160 mg/day. I use the old biobomb formula so I don't know what that translates to in new formula. For 2x/day I think it would be 1:10. Your 1:7 capsules may reduce the loaded feeling but probably not right away.

 

[SweetSue]

Something I learned during my treatment is that cannabinoids get stored in fat and released slowly back into blood stream. I thought it was just metabolites that were stored which is what causes people to test positive weeks or months later.

But THC get stored also and does not degrade. With low doses the storage and re-release has very little effect. But at higher doses the amount stored and re-released is enough to cause a mild continual haze. At least that's how I felt. Even though the dose taken as suppository didn't cause me to get high, the re-released THC does get metabolized and cause mild highs. A couple times before I realized what was happening I went too long without eating, started burning fat which released stored THC rapidly and I got quite a buzz.

It took about a month after I dropped my dosage for the loaded feeling to go away. My current dosage is about 160 mg/day. I use the old biobomb formula so I don't know what that translates to in new formula. For 2x/day I think it would be 1:10. Your 1:7 capsules may reduce the loaded feeling but probably not right away.

Insightful. Let me make note of that. It's practical experience like this that's so lacking in the literature.

When I went to Phoenix in 2015 and had no cannabis for seven weeks I had a continual buzz for the first two weeks. Now I understand a bit more why that was. I'd speculated this, but I also thought it was only metabolites that got stored. This explains why that feeling was enhanced every time I exercised heavily while I was going through that.

The fresh harvest oil has a slightly different feel to it, more personal, if that makes any sense. I feel like it's having a deeper healing effect. At this concentration it's also wearing me out. I'm exhausted by midnight these days, but I'm also sleeping soundly and waking refreshed and alert, joyfully anticipating the next dose.

I'm thinking my next batch of fresh oil that I have a pressure cooker to play with, I might go with a ratio of 300 grams per 500 ml of olive oil. That was what PsyCro suggested in one of the last posts he left. It might eliminate that sense of running slightly too fast.

 

[New B]

What strain? Sorry if you already said

CBDREAM from cropkingseed

 

[KingstonRabbi]

How does someone taking doses high enough to treat cancer and not use suppositories deal with this?

I have been asking this question to myself for awhile now.
The problem with cancer is by the time your diagnosed with it you already feel like crap and are probably anemic. I know I just wanted to feel normal so I stopped drinking and doing anything else that altered the body.
Usually with cancer you get just one chance to get it right.How someone could try to cure themselves without a team of doctors is beyond me.

I started with a team of doctors and they didn't get it the first time, may even have caused the metastasis. I started treating that with a team of doctors with very poor prognosis. I researched chemo and learned why it always fails eventually once cancer metastasizes. It wasn't until then that I looked into cannabis and how it works. Ir didn't take long to realize it was the only treatment option with a realistic chance of surviving 2 years.

I was half way through 2nd round of chemo at that point and opted to continue. I understand the fear of abandoning traditional medicine with something as serious as cancer. If I knew at the beginning what I know now I'd have gotten the cancer the first time and be a lot healthier today. So the answer is education. The more people know the facts the less they need doctors. They're good for running tests, and the more we learn about cannabis the more confident I am that I may not even need those much longer.

 

[fghtsmallcell]

I started with a team of doctors and they didn't get it the first time, may even have caused the metastasis. I started treating that with a team of doctors with very poor prognosis. I researched chemo and learned why it always fails eventually once cancer metastasizes. It wasn't until then that I looked into cannabis and how it works. Ir didn't take long to realize it was the only treatment option with a realistic chance of surviving 2 years.

I was half way through 2nd round of chemo at that point and opted to continue. I understand the fear of abandoning traditional medicine with something as serious as cancer. If I knew at the beginning what I know now I'd have gotten the cancer the first time and be a lot healthier today. So the answer is education. The more people know the facts the less they need doctors. They're good for running tests, and the more we learn about cannabis the more confident I am that I may not even need those much longer.

Hi KingstonRabbi nice to meet you. I use to post a lot on here but it's been awhile and this is a new thread for me. I thought I would come on over and sub to it and I saw your post. I completely understand what you are talking about with the chemo. Same here with my hubby. We did not know about the oil until his chemo was done but I don't know that we would have made any other decision than to do the chemo. He was so very sick and on his death bed. The biggest damage is to his brain. Whole brain radiation. Now we have the guts to say no to chemo and radiation but I don't think we had the nerve over 4 years ago when we started this journey. Congrats on healing yourself with the oil. I think that is what your post is saying. :-D
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[KingstonRabbi]

Hi KingstonRabbi nice to meet you. I use to post a lot on here but it's been awhile and this is a new thread for me. I thought I would come on over and sub to it and I saw your post. I completely understand what you are talking about with the chemo. Same here with my hubby. We did not know about the oil until his chemo was done but I don't know that we would have made any other decision than to do the chemo. He was so very sick and on his death bed. The biggest damage is to his brain. Whole brain radiation. Now we have the guts to say no to chemo and radiation but I don't think we had the nerve over 4 years ago when we started this journey. Congrats on healing yourself with the oil. I think that is what your post is saying. :-D
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It's tragic that most people don't learn about CCO until after they've gone through chemo when it could be a first line of treatment for most cancers. I try to make it clear to people that I'm healing from chemo and not the cancer. So much fear out there that most doctors see it as too risky without bothering to look further. It is changing though. Today I got a call from my niece about a friend dealing with breast cancer that wanted to try cannabis before chemo or radiation. She's not sure but wants to learn more. Eventually everybody will know someone that beat cancer with CCO, and our work will get a lot easier, and a lot harder as we get flooded with questions from people all over. That's a problem I'd love to have.

 

[SweetSue]

I think that's our collective dream. Cannabis oils should be where we go first.

Had a conversation today with an old friend I ran into on the river trail, catching up and explaining what we do here. At one point we got to the threads on pain management and some of the amazing results being seen with cannabis as a pain management resource. He has chronic pain from breaking his back years ago. So we have this extensive conversation and his closing remark was " I know I'll live with this pain for the rest of my life. There's nothing that'll work for it, and I won't take pain pills." He'll take Tylenol in large doses, but won't consider trying cannabis.

Propaganda works. We have a lot of creative thinking ahead of us. He wasn't aware he had an endocannabinoid system either. Yeah....a lot of work.

 

[Moe Ugly]

There definitely need to be more info on the oils. It would be great if people logged how they were dosing and have doctors evaluate it.

I to did not know about oils until after radiation and chemo. I reached alternative treatments. The carrot juice,nuts,flax seed, vitamin c infusions. The only thing I thought about marijuana was a bunch of people looking to get stoned. One thing with medical marijuana that I have noticed is people who say I. I cured myself, with the other one it's always my friends friend relative cured it who knows what. Then there is the cost of an e book and a huge list of supplement you must buy.
Here the info is free and someone is not trying to make a buck off your desperate state you find yourself in.
I hope one day we will have clinical trials on medical marijuana.
There got to be something easier than wiping out your immune with chemo.
KingstonRabbi I can't wait to see a post stating your NED. Hope all your scans stay clear

 

[Depressed]

I use a toaster oven 30-60 minutes at 210f

Thanks Oldbear. I was discouraged to read that Sue recommended "baking" it for a day or so because I don't have an oven of my own but can probably use someones toaster oven if it's only for 60 minutes or so.

PS I was able to source some CBD rich Flower but it's 17% CBD A rich and 1% CBD poor and I'm hoping to convert some if not all of the CBD A over to CBD.

 

[Depressed]

I've been making infused oil with this strain for many months, coming up on a year now, and all previous oils were made with the ratio of 100 grams dry to 500 ml of olive oil. Done with dried flowers this oil doesn't give me a euphoric effect beyond a sense of wellbeing, which is what you'd expect from a CBD dominant.

Made with fresh flowers it's an entirely new ballgame. It's 5:30 PM and that means I've been flying now for 7 and a half hours with no end in sight on my morning dose of one capsule. I'm really high, but also functional, as today's posting history would demonstrate. I gave it some thought earlier and I believe I'm higher on these capsules than I was I was on my 5:1 BioBombs. Last night I couldn't take the third capsule in my regimen until I went to bed at 2 AM. I was simply too high to risk another dose. Five days in and I'm still trying to figure out how to dose this properly. I haven't made any changes because I'm enjoying this unique rolling euphoria that keeps lifting me, like waves on the ocean. Never felt this type of euphoria before.

It's not like I'm a novice to cannabis. I have a legendary reputation for my tolerance level. This is a new experience for me, and a delightful one at that.

Oh! I just felt the first signs that the dose is beginning to wane. That's early signs that I'm beginning to recognize. I still won't be able to take a dose for another hour or so, because I'm still too high. gosh, I'm having fun with this.

When you get your strains it's a matter of working the math. So much THC in each and so much CBD. You're looking to get the ratios as close to balanced as you can, without stressing over it. Once you know what you have to work with we can help you reason it out, if need be.

The lowest temp in my oven is 170 F. The directions on that oil were simply to go with the lowest setting. Oldbear's 210 F in the toaster oven would work as well, but you might want to take it out closer to 24 hours than 36 hours. I no longer stress so much about the conversion rates because I now understand that there's tremendous benefit to the acid cannabinoids too, so it doesn't bother me to have more THCa or more CBDa in the plant material I'm using.

In a cancer case, we'd be doing everything possible to get the maximum THC expression.

Hi Sue,

Very cool about your euphoria and functionality. How's the tolerance and affect now?

I've been a bit busy trying to find some decent CBD flower that doesn't cost ~$400 an ounce (I really need to grow when I can- not able to now unfortunately). I was finally able to source some Harle Tsu @ 17.91% CBDA 1% CBD 0%THCA 1% THC. I'm hoping to convert some of that CBDA if not all of it over but have read different decarb points for CBDA --> CBD on the net so this is a concern of mine (not sure f a ~200F temp will do that).

I wanted to try it out prior to making the oil and I did so today and got some heightened anxiety, irritability that is very different from my THC experiences. I would have thought maybe it was because too much CBD but I mixed it up with my fav THC strain The White about 60-40 CBD strain to THC strain...very odd?

Maybe ingesting the oil won't give that same effect? I'm hoping if I mix roughly the same ratio in the oil and ingest the oil it will not have that same effect? Or perhaps I need to increase THC - this is my gut feeling maybe a 1.5-2 THC to 1 CBD?

There's been other occasions in the past where CBD has made me feel flat, heavy headed and out of it none of which go well with my symptoms.

Do you typically recommend 24 hours of baking the oil? Because Oldbear posted he does his in 60 minutes quite a difference would imagine different effects. I've got about 32 Gs of Harle TSU and am ready to bake or make some oil.

I still need to source some of the Lecithin and get access to an oven for 24 hours to do this... almost there.

 

[SweetSue]

Grow2HealMe came across this article in the news forum, posted by our new News Moderator Ron Strider (go Ron ) and lovingly reformatted by G2HM to be easier for those with cluttered brains in the process of healing. Thank you dear for making us aware of the need to present material in a formatting that's easier to follow.

* I sent this article to my husband as I try to keep him updated on CBD movement for treating Neurological injuries and diseases.

He was so pissed off because this medicine has been kept away from our loved ones who are suffering.

Another reason I share my story because if its working for me so far, how many more people can we help?

Blessings to all!
. = grow love

Full Article: 9 Remarkable Healing Properties Of CBD by Maryam Henein at Care2

9 Remarkable Healing Properties Of CBD

Cannabis has been stigmatized for decades, but scientists and society cannot deny that the plant’s active ingredients, known as Cannabinoids, provide a natural remedy to a host of health issues. While CBD, extracted from the cannabis plant, is structurally similar to THC, part of the allure is that it won’t get you high.



“CBD is now the most researched cannabinoid on the market and rightly so because the studies go back to the 1940s proving its effectiveness on the nervous and immune systems, with no toxicity, side effects, nor psycho-activity,” says Jared Berry, CEO of Isodiol, a company that produces hemp-extracted CBD for pharmaceutical, nutraceutical, and cosmetic companies.



Cannabis is known to have 85+ different cannabinoids, many of them potentially having health benefits.



“Cannabinoids promote homeostasis at every level of biological life, from the sub-cellular to the organism, and perhaps to the community and beyond,” writes NORML, a foundation that works to reform marijuana laws.



According to research, cannabinoids synergize and help support humans’ built-in Endocannabinoid System (ECS). It was in 1992 that scientists discovered that the ECS plays a direct role in homeostasis, which regulates every metabolic process in the body, such as pain sensation, appetite, temperature regulation, stress reactivity, immune function, and sleep, as well as other processes. Even more interesting is that muscle and fat tissue also utilize these receptors to control their processes.



So basically, CBD communicates with our body’s main command center to keep things running as they should. Pretty amazing.



While the government has arguably made selling CBD quite difficult, the US Department of Health and Services ironically patented cannabinoids in 2001.



The FDA and DEA refuse to change their stance on cannabis.



“Naturally, this shows a certain amount of hypocrisy that there is ‘no accepted medical use’ for cannabis according to federal law,” Sam Mendez, an intellectual property and public policy lawyer who serves as the executive director of the University of Washington’s Cannabis Law & Policy Project recently told the Denver Post. “And yet here you have the very same government owning a patent for, ostensibly, a medical use for marijuana.”



Politics aside, let’s look at just nine of the myriad ways CBD can help improve health.



Epilepsy



Epilepsy is a neurological disorder caused by unusual nerve cell activity in the brain. Each year, about 150,000 Americans are diagnosed with this condition. Many turn to mind-numbing medications, brain surgeries and invasively implanted electrical stimulation devices, with little to no relief.



Yet, 20 years of research has shown that CBD has anti-seizure activity, and has been used successfully to treat drug-resistant, epileptic children with no side effects.



“CBD oil is also really good option for people with seizures, because you want a method of delivery they can’t choke on. As an oil, it can be rubbed on the gums and under the tongue,” adds Payton Curry, the founder of Flourish Cannabis, and a huge proponent of CBD. Curry views cannabis as a vegetable, and uses everything from the bud to the root stock to maximize its non-psychoactive properties.



Depression



These days, just thinking of the future of the health care system in this country and the assaults on our environment is enough to get a person down and out.



According to the Anxiety and Depression Association of America, in any given year, persistent depressive disorder PDD, affects approximately 1.5 percent of the U.S. population ages 18 and older. That’s about 3.3 million American adults.



In 2015, an estimated 16.1 million adults aged 18 or older in the United States had at least one major depressive episode in the past year.



CBD has shown to have antidepressant-like actions, enhancing both serotonergic and glutamate cortical signaling through a 5-HT1A receptor-dependent mechanism.



Anxiety



We live in a Xanax-addled society. Anxiety Disorders today affect 18.1 percent of adults in the United States, which equates to approximately 40 million adults, between the ages of 18 to 54.



One of CBD’s most promising implications is in the realm of anti-anxiety. Studies show that CBD can positively impact behavior and reduce psychological measures of stress and anxiety in conditions such as PTSD, social anxiety disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder.



CBD also significantly reduced cognitive impairment and discomfort in speech performance, and significantly decreased angst surrounding public speaking.



Even some pet owners have reported that using CBD oil on their dogs has calmed them down, writes Gunhee Park, Co-Founder of Ministry of Hemp.



While more research is needed to illustrate optimal dosage for anti-anxiety, consider this an opportunity to experiment and learn what works for you.



Oxidative Stress



Today, chronic disease is on the rise like never before with oxidative stress playing a significant causative role. Oxidative stress occurs when the body has too many free radicals and can’t counteract the damage. People fall prey when eating a nutrient deficient diet or when they experience an onslaught of toxins and the body can’t keep up and detox, causing more symptoms of dis-ease.



Oxidative stress is associated with a number of ailments including neurodegenerative diseases, heart disease, gene mutations and cancer.



How amazing that CBD is particularly beneficial in the treatment of oxidative stress-associated diseases of the CNS, because cannabinoids’ ability to cross the blood brain barrier and exert their antioxidant effects in the brain.



Anti-inflammatory



Chronic low-level inflammation can severely erode your health; the silent lurker contributes to at least seven of the 10 leading causes of mortality in the United States, which include heart disease, cancer, chronic lower respiratory disease, stroke, Alzheimer’s disease, diabetes and nephritis.



While real organic food and proper nutrition should be the base of any anti-inflammatory protocol, CBD has shown to significantly suppress chronic inflammatory and neuropathic pain without causing dependency or tolerance.



Chronic Pain and Neuro-Protection



Studies also indicate that this magical compound can help reduce chronic pain, which is fantastic considering America is witnessing a serious and deadly opioid epidemic. To put things in perspective, we are now losing more people to opioids than from firearms or car crashes – combined.



Cannabis can regulate immune functions and shows positive effects where neurons have been damaged, which makes it a safe and effective treatment for ALS, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and MS. CBD has also slowed down cell damage in diabetes patients and worked effectively to block progression of arthritis.



Weight Management



As if CBD wasn’t already a home run, CBD also plays a positive role on our metabolism, and body weight regulation.



In a published study in the scientific journal Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry



CBD was found to:

• Stimulate genes and proteins that enhance the breakdown and oxidation of fat.

• Increase the number and activity of mitochondria, which increases the body’s ability to burn calories).

• Decrease the expression of proteins involved in lipogenesis (fat cell generation).

• Help induce fat browning.



Sleep



Not sleeping can wreak havoc on your psyche and physique. According to the American Sleep Association, 50-70 million U.S. adults have a sleep disorder today.



Evidence suggests that CBD oil can improve quality of sleep and reduce anxiety. I can attest. One study found that CBD blocked anxiety-induced REM sleep suppression, resulting in better quality of sleep. Another study found that the oil reduced participants’ cortisol levels, which are linked to anxiety and stress in the body.



When it comes to doses for treatment, Gunhee writes that CBD dosing experiments have shown that small doses of CBD have an “active” effect, meaning it actually helps you stay active and focused while interestingly, large dosages have the opposite effect: sedation.



Addiction



How ironic that we can use a compound belonging to a Schedule 1 Drug (marijuana) to stop the addiction of other narcotics.



CBD is thought to modulate various neuronal circuits involved in drug addiction. A limited number of preclinical studies suggest that CBD may have therapeutic properties on opioid, cocaine and psychostimulant addictions. One of the most promising application is using CBD to curb the habits of cigarette smokers.



CBD can even be effective for the treatment of cannabis withdrawal syndrome and certainly helped me kick Xanax for good.



Many of these could replace synthetic drugs that have flooded the market and allow patients and customers to use a natural non addictive plant compound as a remedy.



“But then again, maybe that’s the exact reason why progress has been so slow; approval of CBD as a legitimate supplement and drug would be a significant blow to big pharmaceutical companies,” says Gunhee, who is also co-founder of Populum, a premium hemp CBD oil brand.

 

[SweetSue]

Hi Sue,

Very cool about your euphoria and functionality. How's the tolerance and affect now?

I've been a bit busy trying to find some decent CBD flower that doesn't cost ~$400 an ounce (I really need to grow when I can- not able to now unfortunately). I was finally able to source some Harle Tsu @ 17.91% CBDA 1% CBD 0%THCA 1% THC. I'm hoping to convert some of that CBDA if not all of it over but have read different decarb points for CBDA --> CBD on the net so this is a concern of mine (not sure f a ~200F temp will do that).

I wanted to try it out prior to making the oil and I did so today and got some heightened anxiety, irritability that is very different from my THC experiences. I would have thought maybe it was because too much CBD but I mixed it up with my fav THC strain The White about 60-40 CBD strain to THC strain...very odd?

Maybe ingesting the oil won't give that same effect? I'm hoping if I mix roughly the same ratio in the oil and ingest the oil it will not have that same effect? Or perhaps I need to increase THC - this is my gut feeling maybe a 1.5-2 THC to 1 CBD?

There's been other occasions in the past where CBD has made me feel flat, heavy headed and out of it none of which go well with my symptoms.

Do you typically recommend 24 hours of baking the oil? Because Oldbear posted he does his in 60 minutes quite a difference would imagine different effects. I've got about 32 Gs of Harle TSU and am ready to bake or make some oil.

I still need to source some of the Lecithin and get access to an oven for 24 hours to do this... almost there.

Good morning Depressed. You know, we're gonna have to talk about this user name that reinforces the sense of desperation. Expectation is everything when you work with the Endocannabinoid system. The system doesn't know the difference between reality and what you tell it. It believes what your feeling are telling it and acts accordingly. It functions from the level of feeling, and as such it behoves us to talk to it in positive terms. Just a thought I wanted to share. Please don't read any judgement into it. I don't judge.

It's interesting that you get an anxiety reaction with the mix. You will get a different effect with the infused oil, but I'd suggest you test out your theory and mix your strains heavier on the side of THC and see how that effects you vaping first. The standard rule is if the ratios don't do it for you, flip them the other way and see how that is.

Although you'll get a different effect with infused oil, the ratios you start with should be something that doesn't induce what you're trying to treat.

Looking over The White my personal alarm went off. It's high in pinene, not an uncommon thing, but one I avoid with my daughter's meds because the pinene excites her system and makes her feel like she's having a panic attack. She's allergic to pine oil, something I neglected to take into consideration when I started her in cannabinoid therapies. That was how we learned to avoid sativas for her. The terpene profile in many sativas effects her totally different than they do her mother.

The strain I use for her is CBD Critical Cure with a 2:1 ratio in favor of CBD. She now also nibbles on a brownie made with Candy Cane, an indica dominant high in THC with negligible CBD, and this inclusion balanced her out beautifully. It took us months and months to fine-tune the protocol, and now she's probably close to an even ratio. That trial and error is a regular part of any new protocol, and it will evolve as you do and as your ECS becomes stronger and more efficient at healing.

When making an infused oil the goal is to get the trichomes to release the contents so they can bond with the carrier oil. This takes some heat and agitation. To decarb as well you need either more heat or more time or both. The oil I make in the oven works well for a small batch, so you can test the effects without using all of your plant material.

I find my 24-36 hour method to fill this function so well that I don't bother with any other method. It's become habit for me now. Certainly you can do the job of decarbing at a higher setting and in less time. My oven method allows me to really agitate the hell out of the plant material. I'm certain at the end of my cooking time that I've extracted most, if not all of the plant's essential oils.

I recently came across a method that cooks in a crockpot for a week straight and will lay you out, if claims are true. We have so much to learn about making infused oils it's mind-boggling, if you let it be.

CBD decarbs just a little longer than THC. If you decarb for THC you're getting most of the CBD decarbed as well. There's tremendous medicinal value in the acid cannabinoids too, so there's no problem with having some of them in there. What we now understand about the acid cannabinoids has made me unconcerned about the rate of decarb, unless we're treating cancer, and then we want to maximize decarb.

You're almost there. Test out a ratio higher in THC and see what that does for you.

Life gets so much easier when you can grow, or have someone grow for you. It sometimes frustrates me how those of you living in legal states have so many limitations on access, cost being the primary concern. There's no way this medicinal herb should be costing what they charge. We grow them. We know the true cost of cultivation, before the governmental bodies tack on the ungodly fees and taxes.

 

[SweetSue]

I forgot to comment on my tolerance levels with the fresh harvest oil. As far as I can tell I'm experiencing no tolerance shifts, other than I may be getting higher than when I began. I'm still limited to only two capsules a day and don't reach for the water pipe until nearly midnight, for just a few hits to get me through the active posting hours before bed.

This oil is the best thing I've discovered in the time I've been here at 420 Magazine, next to Cajun that is.

 

[VerdantSpires]

I looked up Chocolope and I'd say yes, a good strain. What caught my attention was the test results on Seedsman. The strain tested out with THC between 17 - 19%, but it also had almost 14% THCa in there too. THCa is turning out to be almost as valuable as CBD for inflammatory response. That's good news for you. It picks up part of the slack from the low rate of CBD found. If you use Chocolope you'll need some CBD to balance it out as well.

I'm a bit puzzled by a figure for both THC and THCa for a strain. Isn't it all THCa in the raw bud, and then most of this gets converted into THC during the decarboxylation process? So if they are going to provide separate values for those two components, a figure for THC in the raw bud should be near zero, I'd have thought, unless it has been grown in searing heat?

SweetSue, I seem to recall that you were wondering how to maximize the CBDa content in your harvest? Here's an article that says: If you harvest early, the THC content will be higher, therefore it will produce more of a cerebral “head high”. When a plant is in the later stages of budding, the THC starts to turn into what’s known as CBD. [. . .] So the later you wait to harvest, the more CBD you’ll be smoking. 7 Questions Answered About Cannabis Harvest – Zenpype

 

[SweetSue]

I'm a bit puzzled by a figure for both THC and THCa for a strain. Isn't it all THCa in the raw bud, and then most of this gets converted into THC during the decarboxylation process? So if they are going to provide separate values for those two components, a figure for THC in the raw bud should be near zero, I'd have thought, unless it has been grown in searing heat?

SweetSue, I seem to recall that you were wondering how to maximize the CBDa content in your harvest? Here's an article that says: If you harvest early, the THC content will be higher, therefore it will produce more of a cerebral “head high”. When a plant is in the later stages of budding, the THC starts to turn into what’s known as CBD. [. . .] So the later you wait to harvest, the more CBD you’ll be smoking. 7 Questions Answered About Cannabis Harvest – Zenpype

THC doesn't convert to CBD. CBGa is the mother cannabinoid that becomes everything else. Here's an excellent write-up about it from The Leaf

Cannabinoid Profiles Crash Course - CBGa

 

[Canyon]

Sue, hopefully tonight I can get those test results up and a few pictures of my grow. I have been short on free time for a while now.

Best

This may help with what converts to what.

 

[KingstonRabbi]

I'm a bit puzzled by a figure for both THC and THCa for a strain. Isn't it all THCa in the raw bud, and then most of this gets converted into THC during the decarboxylation process? So if they are going to provide separate values for those two components, a figure for THC in the raw bud should be near zero, I'd have thought, unless it has been grown in searing heat?

SweetSue, I seem to recall that you were wondering how to maximize the CBDa content in your harvest? Here's an article that says: If you harvest early, the THC content will be higher, therefore it will produce more of a cerebral “head high”. When a plant is in the later stages of budding, the THC starts to turn into what’s known as CBD. [. . .] So the later you wait to harvest, the more CBD you’ll be smoking. 7 Questions Answered About Cannabis Harvest – Zenpype

THC degrades into CDN or cannabinol, a weakly psychoactive cannabinoid that is associated with couch lock effects. I've seen a lot of articles misprint CBD when they mean CBN. That article flat out gets it wrong, at least on the chemistry.

On the percentages, you're right that raw bud is mostly THCa, but depending on harvest timing and age of buds more THCa may decarb naturally into THC. The 17-19% would be the potential THC including both THC and THCa (assuming all THCa is decarbed and no THC degrades to CBN, which we know is not the case.) The 14% THCa is included in the 17%, so about 3% actual THC and mostly THCa as expected.

 

[KingstonRabbi]

There definitely need to be more info on the oils. It would be great if people logged how they were dosing and have doctors evaluate it.

I to did not know about oils until after radiation and chemo. I reached alternative treatments. The carrot juice,nuts,flax seed, vitamin c infusions. The only thing I thought about marijuana was a bunch of people looking to get stoned. One thing with medical marijuana that I have noticed is people who say I. I cured myself, with the other one it's always my friends friend relative cured it who knows what. Then there is the cost of an e book and a huge list of supplement you must buy.
Here the info is free and someone is not trying to make a buck off your desperate state you find yourself in.
I hope one day we will have clinical trials on medical marijuana.
There got to be something easier than wiping out your immune with chemo.
KingstonRabbi I can't wait to see a post stating your NED. Hope all your scans stay clear

I posted back in January about my first NED. That reminds me I didn't post my last results from April. "Ditto" about covers it.

Link to page with a couple other NEDs annouced above my post. And shortly after that Cajun posted his own repeat success after scaring us nearly to death.
A Base Treatment Regimen for Cancer

 

[SweetSue]

"Ditto" covers it very well KR. Look at that, the march to homeostasis is your norm now.

Thanks for clarifying the THC/THCa values. I realized I missed making that point the first time around. This is the value of many brains focused on the goal of understanding.

 

[SweetSue]

Yeah...... tell a chocoholic that they've discovered anandamide in chocolate. I always did say chocolate was brain food for women. Lol!

Found an enticing article on why chocolate is such a "feel good" food, and one of the reasons is that it contains anandamide.

From The Exploratorium, The Sweet Lure of Chocolate, Page 8 - Feel Good Food

The passage that caught my eye followed a discussion of the stimulants of caffeine and phenylethylamine:

While stimulants contribute to a temporary sense of well-being, there are other chemicals and other theories as to why chocolate makes us feel good. Perhaps the most controversial findings come from researchers at the Neurosciences Institute in San Diego, California. They believe that "chocolate contains pharmacologically active substances that have the same effect on the brain as marijuana, and that these chemicals may be responsible for certain drug-induced psychoses associated with chocolate craving."

I think I'll enjoy my chocolate a little more now.