Weed Wars: Five-Year-Old Takes Medical Marijuana On Reality Show

[art fog]

I am going to ramble here into the subject and hope it is enlightening. I could have cared less but since you mentioned the old guy on Weed Wars....... He is part of an era back in the 60s. (People born between 1944 - 52) If you were at least a teen then, i.e. say a southmore in high school in 1964 you would be coming into in an atmosphere that would be complicated w/ political movements like racial equality, women liberation, etc, while groups i.e. black panther, weathermen, sds, and many cults ranging from budda to 'the way' and renegades like Charles Manson consumer advocates like Ralph Nader were sprinkled all over the vietnam war protests getting high w/ Timothy Learys and pot. All the time there were people moving i.e. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test thumbing rides from commune to commune. It was an open-ended social setting that was in a way like open-source industries now that have a certain amount of respect in their idealism. You were equal and had the ability to shape your world. Pot was just another value in the process it also added mystery. It seemed like at least half of the youth did pot or any drugs. The people that didn't smoke appeared deprived and neurotically controlled (like a former mayor of NYC). Anyone who went to Vietnam had no illusion of what drugs like pot were meant for, the fields were full. There was really a few types of pot that came w/ labels like acapulco, Thai stick, hash red and Lebanese but it was mild. These people were the johnny apple seeds of the future in fact there were several hippies calling themselves 'johnny apple seeds of marijuana' in the 60s planting all over the world.

 

[Lord Indica]

I watched both episodes. The "optics" on it only seemed to perpetuate the stereotypes.

The argument of "Marijuana as Medicine" is strong, but undermined by what we saw on screen. Never, ever do bong hits in front of the camera. I wouldn't want a reality crew filming me taking my NSAIDS. Medicine and healthcare is and should always be private. I like and respect the DeAngelo brothers for the risks they are taking and their advocacy.

They didn't help our cause much on the show. Having stated that, the one thing that did help our cause is the cannabis affects on that poor boy's seizures. Those of us who are parents can understand the pain and sorrow of having a suffering child. This dad Jason is a hero for the cause.


The brother should never ever be on camera again, under the influence. It's unprofessional and raises doubts by community leaders that the proprietors will continue to exercise sound judgment.

I see your point, I really do. The people that we are trying to win over in order to use the medical card would be better served if we did it with the sterility of a surgeons table. BUT! Why is it that we have to rely solely on the medical card (I know the answer, this is for arguments sake). Why isn't marijuana legal because it's harmless? Nuff said (IMO), I get all worked up when people say, "oh don't do this or don't say that, we have to be a certain way in front of this group or they won't let us have our pot". When what I really want to say is "hey this is how I am, this is what I do and no matter how you feel about it I ain't going to change. Marijuana is NOT bad for me, it is not a gateway drug to other more harmful substances any more than aspirin or alcohol and who the hell gave you the right to vote it into prohibition without my vote in the first damned place"? That's what I want to say to these that were blinded by the Nixon/Reagan mindf*ck. I know what these guys are trying to do as well and the truth is in metro America their way of presenting themselves is as common as apple pie in a window seal in Dinky Town Utah. The show is being filmed in the most liberal state in the US. so everyone knows that freedom of expression is a lot more tolerated in L.A. and San Francisco. Which brings me to my last point. It is the puritans in the bible belt that are holding up the inevitable anyway. The puritans think they are doing right and they feel that way because no one has explained to them why Nixon and reagan lied (yes politicians lie) to them about marijuana and it's effects on human behavior. thanks for reading

 

[art fog]

You forgot to mention the Tea Party, Fox News, all the GOP, and the new republicans or those converted liberals who don't want to give up anything, pay extra, keep the neighborhood & occasionally smoke pot in the closet.......

 

[art fog]

I just knew this would be a fun thread!

also auseful 'thread, because every body has to come up for air once in a while...

 

[QueenTokelove]

I really don't get into politics that much at all or from a very far distance. I never voted until Obama came along. But with the debt we are currently in now, it would seem to me if they legalized it and taxed it, a lot of these financial issues we're having would be going away or at least improve.

You see all these anti-drug commercials out about mj when they should be out about the harder drugs..It's a shame that no one out there can or is willing to put out a commercial about the pros of it. Or is there a law against that? I really don't know. It sucks that there is so much positive proof of the effects of mj but no one is willing to listen or change it. It amazes me how this world can be so technically advanced but ass backwards when it comes to mj.

 

[art fog]

I agree but lucky things are beginning to take root and change for the best. It has some more time but things are going in the right direction. The amount of participation & information is amazing.

 

[Rock]

You forgot to mention the Tea Party, Fox News, all the GOP, and the new republicans or those converted liberals who don't want to give up anything, pay extra, keep the neighborhood & occasionally smoke pot in the closet.......

Despite what you may have been told cannabis users are not divided along party lines.

 

[Lord Indica]

What kills me about the whole thing is this little fact. If a bird lands on a plant in some far away pot field, grabs a seed from one of the buds and fly's over my house and accidentally drops the seed onto my property and it grows into a pot plant, I could lose my house, my freedom or possibly my life because of this one plant growing on my property. The fact that a naturally occurring thing can cause all that hardship in the land of the free is the ultimate smack in freedoms face. Why isn't the castor bean plant illegal for crying out loud? It is the plant that one of the most deadly poisons on earth is derived from. The whole thing is so ridiculous that all I can do is shake my head and wonder who the heck elected the lawmakers that decide on these types of things? Tylenol will kill you if you ingest too many of the pills but my 11 year old son bought a whole bottle (100 pills) with not one question asked.

 

[Dudette]

TY Rock. What you say is true. Many Conservatives support Medical MJ. All the people that voted for BO know now that he lied just to get votes. Remember that in November.

 

[QueenTokelove]

TY Rock. What you say is true. Many Conservatives support Medical MJ. All the people that voted for BO know now that he lied just to get votes. Remember that in November.

He may have lied about that but has kept other promises he made. Not trying to go into a debate about it. But I rather have voted for him than McCain. And if he was elected do you really think he would be for mmj? I sure as hell don't think so.

 

[art fog]

Despite what you may have been told cannabis users are not divided along party lines.

I have seen smokers in many walks of life but despite what you say it is relative. Which means depending on where you live.

 

[420 Warrior]

I am going to ramble here into the subject and hope it is enlightening. I could have cared less but since you mentioned the old guy on Weed Wars....... He is part of an era back in the 60s. (People born between 1944 - 52) If you were at least a teen then, i.e. say a southmore in high school in 1964 you would be coming into in an atmosphere that would be complicated w/ political movements like racial equality, women liberation, etc, while groups i.e. black panther, weathermen, sds, and many cults ranging from budda to 'the way' and renegades like Charles Manson consumer advocates like Ralph Nader were sprinkled all over the vietnam war protests getting high w/ Timothy Learys and pot. All the time there were people moving i.e. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test thumbing rides from commune to commune. It was an open-ended social setting that was in a way like open-source industries now that have a certain amount of respect in their idealism. You were equal and had the ability to shape your world. Pot was just another value in the process it also added mystery. It seemed like at least half of the youth did pot or any drugs. The people that didn't smoke appeared deprived and neurotically controlled (like a former mayor of NYC). Anyone who went to Vietnam had no illusion of what drugs like pot were meant for, the fields were full. There was really a few types of pot that came w/ labels like acapulco, Thai stick, hash red and Lebanese but it was mild. These people were the johnny apple seeds of the future in fact there were several hippies calling themselves 'johnny apple seeds of marijuana' in the 60s planting all over the world.

Born in 69' here but my folks were "Hippies" and I remember as a kid, going to communes and how free it all was...even in the 70's

I mean, kids running around bare foot, great music playing all the time and people were just plain "Happy"...Oh, how I long for those days again! Confusing times...but happy times!

I guess a lot of that has rubbed off on me even now, because I still let music like Led Zeppelin, just take me away with it and, just like so many people back then, I'm here advocating for the "complete legalization of Cannabis for adult use". I still like to be one with nature, like people did back then, as well, I usually connect in a big way with the older generation that came before me (Old Hippies)...My favorite kind of people!

I loved that era and I just hope that myself and the people that were fighting for it back then, can at least get to see this unjust war over in our lifetime!

art fog, for taking me back to my childhood, hopefully, what others have started, we can now finish

 

[Lord Indica]

He may have lied about that but has kept other promises he made. Not trying to go into a debate about it. But I rather have voted for him than McCain. And if he was elected do you really think he would be for mmj? I sure as hell don't think so.

He lied! Heres a nifty fact totally irrelevant to the thread's title but an interesting fact (meaning true) Obama's administration has spent more money during his presidency than was spent from Washington's admin through Clinton's admin combined! Who woulda thought? lol.

 

[Rock]

He may have lied about that but has kept other promises he made. Not trying to go into a debate about it. But I rather have voted for him than McCain. And if he was elected do you really think he would be for mmj? I sure as hell don't think so.

So you will vote for the guy who lies rather than the guy who tells the truth about where he or she stands on an issue?

I think for some younger people this is the most important issue there is, but for the older folks who pay taxes and have kids there are alot more important things to consider when voting for our president.

 

[J9BLACK]

Fact check...

Obama has been more oppressive on medical cannabis dispensaries than president Bush was. Try the ASA for some detail around that. McCain? I didn't want him either.

 

[Lord Indica]

McCain? Cmon man! Sarah would have had him talked into legalizing cannabis in the first term and god knows she would have been a hell of a lot better than Biden. I can honestly say, we would still have all our money (instead of China), pot would be legal and we would have a hot VP to listen to talk about politics. yes I can honestly say McCain would have been the better of the 2 evils. Obama is the worst president this continent has seen and that includes Buchannon. Okay so now that I put myself out there, lol. Everyone have a nice Holiday?..?

 

[J9BLACK]

I voted for Palin, and she has experience running a cannabis friendly state.

Here is what I see happening: Obama will tighten the screws on cannabis until he gets re-elected. He doesn't need ugly Willy Horton type political ads showing how cannabis has exploded under his watch--which it has.

When he has no fear of losing an election, the screws will loosen. Unfortunately, he will also become "liberal unleashed". We think the last three years were socialist? Wait until the final four.

Unfortunately, Ron Paul is a nut...otherwise he would get this classical liberal's vote.

Corporations need well educated, trained, and disciplined workers. Corporations see drug use (forget *abuse*), as an existential threat to worker productivity. Worker productivity increases profits because it saves labor costs. We all become slaves to the grind, and yet cannot partake of our preferred medicine. To hell with that.

Boston said it best, "So you're climbing to the top of the cotporate ladder, I hope it doesn't take too long. Can't you see there'll come a time when it won't matter. Come a time when you'll be gone."

The political aristocracy has to bank on worker productivity and rampant consumerism to drive us out of this economy.

I say "Nein!" to that life. Simplify, be happy.

 

[J9BLACK]

Oh, Lord Indica...blame President Clinton for giving China PERMANENT MFN trade status. This is the same president that campaigned on human rights from China *before* any MFN status were granted.

We keep getting sold out, president after president.

How hard is it for these powerful men to stay out of our business? I just want to work, worship, and raise my family in a free country that hasn't been at war the entire lives of my children. I want to work in a world where the CEO salaries are somewhat sane and stupid people who make stupid financial decisions aren't bailed out--whether those people are car companies, AIG, or the "victims" of the so called subprime mortgage business..

I don't care if someone else's house is over leveraged. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to fix that "problem".

 

[J9BLACK]

Back on topic....

I saw Weed Wars' latest episode. Seriously, bud tenders taking edibles while working? Not good.

I agree with Steve's wanting to push cannabis as medicine; but, speaking before NORML is just self aggrandizement. Steve should be preaching to our adversaries who are currently executing OBama's drug policies.

 

[420 Warrior]

He lied! Heres a nifty fact totally irrelevant to the thread's title but an interesting fact (meaning true) Obama's administration has spent more money during his presidency than was spent from Washington's admin through Clinton's admin combined! Who woulda thought? lol.

I would have, I saw right through his smug, smooth talking BS from day one of his candidacy...even when I was here and everyone was all about Obama this and Obama that, I ALWAYS saw right through him! He is a master of telling what ever group he happens to be talking to at the time, just exactly what they want to here.

Then, when he got in to office, he started just doing what ever was on his own personal agenda.

I just can't see how everybody missed this, why was everyone just so taken in by him? He is such a BS artist! Always was, always will be!!!

Now, Ron Paul? Although, I may not totally agree with everything he is for, he, at least comes right out and says he wants to legalize Cannabis, in which he has proven by his and Barney Frank's bill.

With this fact, Ron Paul has my vote!