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    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/ho...em-solver.html

    Using that and a visual flow-chart I drew out maybe a K deficiency (#4)???

    Affecting the lower growth, leaves browning/yellowing with brown/yellow/necrotic patches.

    Then the question is why the deficiency?

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    you got me, i went through that chart and had 2 posible answers,

    Tips of leaves are yellow, brown, or dead. Plant otherwise looks healthy & green. Stems may be soft >> Over-fertilization (especially N), over-watering, damaged roots, or insufficient soil aeration (use more sand or perlite. Occasionally due to not enough N, P, or K. b)

    11) Leaves are light green or yellow beginning at the base, while the leaf margins remain green. Necrotic spots may be between veins. Leaves are not twisted. >> Manganese (Mn) deficiency. b) If not, #12.

    12) Leaves are twisted. Otherwise, pretty much like #11. >> Zinc (Zn) deficiency. b) If not, #13.

    i flushed them all and removed 5 of the smaller plants for light room. i started them on 12/12 but i think im going to veg since i cant control this problem.

    i tested my soil (bad images)




    my ph is 7.0 that bad?
    the phosphorous is off the charts high, so idk about that...

    N and B seem to be fine.

    We will figure it out.

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    7.0 is not excessively high although most of what I've read recommends 6.0-6.8 but even 7.0 shouldn't lock out any nutrients.

    You say your P is sky-high...that actually makes sense. Excessive phosphorus can lock out potassium according to the ever-so-useful sticky in the Problems forum!!! That would match up with the flow-chart style thread I linked you to and the symptoms your plants are showing. *does a successful-happy dance* I think I'm going to have another beer now lol (nothing else in my home except rum).

    Keep watering with distilled water or whatever you were flushing with and see if it clears up...don't feed it any nutes imho, just water.

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    so, i flush, wait 4 days or so, flush again, wait 4 days, feed if better. (going to get good food for them) wait 4 days normal water, lst, crop, test soil. all i can know to do right now. hope it works, thanks for sticking with me on that one Neutrino!

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    should i mist them at all?

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    Dunno about the misting...if the soil is starting to pull away from the walls of the pot then you might want to just for the benefit of the roots. Or are you talking about foliar feeding?

    I must have missed it but what soil are you using after your last transplant? If you do fertilize after about a week (second watering) do it with something mild so you don't cause any more uptake issues. I'm not too experienced with nutes yet, mine have been feeding purely off the FFOF soil so far, so maybe someone else can answer this better than I. Good luck!!! Hopefully the above is your problem and winds up allowing you to get them healthy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Neutrino View Post
    Dunno about the misting...if the soil is starting to pull away from the walls of the pot then you might want to just for the benefit of the roots. Or are you talking about foliar feeding?
    like should i spray the leaves with some water, or will that hurt them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Neutrino View Post
    I must have missed it but what soil are you using after your last transplant? If you do fertilize after about a week (second watering) do it with something mild so you don't cause any more uptake issues.
    the soil im using is MG organic, with a 30 pct perlite mix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Neutrino View Post
    mine have been feeding purely off the FFOF soil so far
    i think i will let my soil do the work, seems like the more i do to them the worse they get. i hope the flush worked.

    they look sad right now, i think the flush shocked them, looks of overwatering. i hope the heat from the lights and the fans will dry up the soil soon enough for me to be on schedule with the watering. i also pinched off the bad leaves, i heard that doing this helps the rest of the plant recover. prey for my babies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by luxx View Post
    like should i spray the leaves with some water, or will that hurt them?
    I would just leave them alone for the first few days unless they show severe signs of dehydration.

    i think i will let my soil do the work, seems like the more i do to them the worse they get. i hope the flush worked.
    The thing with plants is that the consequences of what you do is not immediately shown. Patience...for people like me who are home all the time it's hard not to tinker with them lol.

    they look sad right now, i think the flush shocked them, looks of overwatering. i hope the heat from the lights and the fans will dry up the soil soon enough for me to be on schedule with the watering.
    Last time I watered mine they got a double-dose as I was trying to get the run-off pH lowered. They weren't too happy the next day but quickly snapped out of it. It's probably just a sign they were over-watered which is what you did intentionally so I wouldn't worry.

    i also pinched off the bad leaves, i heard that doing this helps the rest of the plant recover. prey for my babies!
    I was doing that too once they got bad enough that it looked like there was no more nutrients for the plant to pull from them.

    And not to nit-pick but maaaaan...."prey" and "pray" are completely different things, I don't think you want anything preying on your babies except YOU when they have fat buds on them lol

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    LOL, yea, i used to work for a construction company named prey, too many joints ago.

    i wanted to jump the gun a little by going to 12/12 2weeks in, it lasted a week, now im back to 18/6, as seen on pics nothing was ready for that, so time to veg for about 20 days more then ill goto 12/12. will this be a good strategy?

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    Wish I could tell ya...I'm currently debating when to switch over to 12/12 myself. I think three weeks of vegging won't hurt, I wasn't planning on vegging my plants for this long myself but the more vegging the better (to a point). Try to get your nute problem fixed first, give it a week or two after that to "stabilize" (purely out of my butt, but makes sense in my own little world), and then maybe switch to 12/12. Does that sound ok to anyone else? lol

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    Luxx it's the soil that giving you the problems.
    MG organic from the web site "The Overview
    Delivers nearly double the yields of topsoil naturally! Fertilizer provides both starting and slow-release feeding for up to 3 months.
    You need a soil without the fertilizer flushing your plants will make it even worse. It releases more nutes causing more burns in a snowball effect.

    Pan4

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    The MG soil has stuff in it that activates its nutrient release the more you water it? That would make sense, I don't know what I was thinking they had in it that would be time-release. I was thinking if he let the soil dry out in between flushes that he would be ok or is that wrong? If he were using a different soil without the time-release nutes would it work then?

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    well not all of my plants are using mg organic, less then half are using a cheap kmart brand potting soil mixed with 40 pct mg perlite. even with this variable, all of my plant are demonstraiting simaler problems. idk, wait another week, if they dont look better, i change to non nute, soil mix and flush weekly. i got to get this right, the second grow depends on it

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    day 20, down to 10 plants, they are about 5-6 inches tall almost the same in width. giving the circiumstances, they look decent. i will post pics tonight, need to know if i should preflower them, or take clones off and sex them.

    any suggestion from personal experience would be nice.

    and out of the 10, how many will be projected as female. ive heard with extra stress comes extra males or shemales, this true?

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    Re: luxx's very first grow

    whats up, got bored and wanted to share my good news, plants are looking a lot better.... check them out.


    pic spam time, sorry.

































    i like this one.






    looking a lot better after flush! that had me worried.

    could someone be able to tell me what type of strain/type this bagseed is by looking at the plant?

    love taking pictures of them.

    they enjoy it too.

    btw this is day 25 of flowering. Think im going to go about 40 days into flower before veg.

    still thinking about the lst. its good for certian plants, are my plants good for it?

    well, suggestions or comments welcome!

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