1st Grow - Fabzster - MarsLED - Bubbleponics - Bubba Kush, Confidential Cheese - 2017

[fabzster]

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Hi

Many thanks for the input,

Unfortunately I cannot get those and any of those beneficial microbe products in my country but have read many positive things about them.
I think I am going to try and germinate directly in hydroton next time.

 

[Gewber4u]

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A method for germinaiting that works for me is to start them in soil and let them go for a couple weeks. Then carefully pull them from the soil and rinse as much as possible off. then transplant to hydro. I personally stoped using rockwool and root riot cubes on my last one that's going right now. Just a net pot and some styrofoam as a plug.

 

[fabzster]

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There seems to be slight growth, on the leaves but nothing so far as root growth

See pic below the left is on the 01 June and the right is 04 June, lets hope this is a sign that we are moving in the right direction.
Apologies for the pic on the left it's a bit blurry.

 

[Archiweedies]

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Hey man, it's been a couple days. What's happening with your plant!

Green Leaves and Good Vibes

 

[Scientific]

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Hey man, it's been a couple days. What's happening with your plant!

Yeah, been wondering. Maybe everything is good now so no need to check in? I hope so...

 

[fabzster]

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Guy's thank you so much for your continued support, it is appreciated. My plants are recuperating and we are looking good so far, growth has been stunted and it's crazy to think that I should be switching to flower "time wise" but they are too small and would need to catch up before I do that.

Time for a little catch up

2017-06-08
I was not sure if the confidential seedling would make it, so I added a seed directly in hydroton for some insurance

2017-06-11

2017-06-12
The new critical seed germinated (I will definitely germinate this way again, much better. Rockwool can kiss my ass)
Some new root growth

2017-06-14
K, so all plants are doing well just super behind and really small, no problem at least they are not dead. My second grow is going to go much smoother.

 

[Scientific]

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Cool! Looking good!

 

[Archiweedies]

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Nice man, I'm done with rockwool too. .

 

[Archiweedies]

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Yea and I'm not sold on bubbleponics. It seems like more trouble than it's worth. The plants really take off once their roots touch down in the res. I might omit it in the future. What do you think?

 

[Scientific]

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Yea and I'm not sold on bubbleponics. It seems like more trouble than it's worth. The plants really take off once their roots touch down in the res. I might omit it in the future. What do you think?

I did an experiment in which I put the bottom half inch of a small pot filled with hydroton in water to see if it would "wick" at all, and it did very well. Soon all the hydroton in the entire small pot was wet. Based on that, I think you could just adjust the water level to touch the bottom of the pot and skip pumping water to the top. If that didn't provide enough moisture, you could rig up some kind of actual wick or add coco coir to wick and retain moisture. And of course it wouldn't be that much of a challenge just to hand water the hydroton for the few days that it takes the tap root to climb down to the reservoir. In my experience, that happens very quickly--in a matter of a few days--so that seems do-able.

In any case, it seems to me that it would be easy to rig things up in such a way as to skip the complexity and cost of a pump.

 

[fabzster]

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I did an experiment in which I put the bottom half inch of a small pot filled with hydroton in water to see if it would "wick" at all, and it did very well. Soon all the hydroton in the entire small pot was wet. Based on that, I think you could just adjust the water level to touch the bottom of the pot and skip pumping water to the top. If that didn't provide enough moisture, you could rig up some kind of actual wick or add coco coir to wick and retain moisture. And of course it wouldn't be that much of a challenge just to hand water the hydroton for the few days that it takes the tap root to climb down to the reservoir. In my experience, that happens very quickly--in a matter of a few days--so that seems do-able.

In any case, it seems to me that it would be easy to rig things up in such a way as to skip the complexity and cost of a pump.

Hi bud

I don't know hey, I quite prefer bubbleponics (I am running the bag seed in coco perlite). If you only want to remove the top feed portion then its plain DWC, I have seen some people use the top fed system for the first couple of weeks and then remove it and run just DWC.

 

[Scientific]

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I have seen some people use the top fed system for the first couple of weeks and then remove it and run just DWC.

That's kind of my point. The cost and complexity of top feed is only justified until the roots hit water, and the roots hit water very quickly, so next time I'm gonna just simplify!

 

[Archiweedies]

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That's kind of my point. The cost and complexity of top feed is only justified until the roots hit water, and the roots hit water very quickly, so next time I'm gonna just simplify!

This was my point. I like the idea of top feeding though

 

[fabzster]

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2017-06-17 (Sat)

Res Change Day
Added 25L tap water to new reservoir added 14ml (Micro, Grow & Bloom) 415 ppm and pH'd down to 5.85

08:30

pH 5.85
µS 830
ppm 415

Bag Seedlings are in 12,5cm pots and added 3,5m l per 10L water (Micro, Grow & Bloom) 347ppm, had to water the plants with 10L of water vbefore the run-off was a similar pH to the nutrient mix.


2017-06-18 (Sun)

10:19

pH 6.18
µS 844
ppm 422

20:02

pH 6.18
µS 849
ppm 425

2017-06-20 (Tue)

07:09

pH 5.97
µS 863
ppm 431

Trained Bag Seedlings down as they stretched too much initially as early seedlings.

2017-06-22 (Thur)

Trimmed some lower growth off the confidential seedling

07:09

pH 5.97
µS 863
ppm 431

 

[Scientific]

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Looking good!

 

[fabzster]

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2017-06-24 (Sat)

Reservoir change day, added 18ml nutes to 25L water to get 506 ppm


pH 6.31
µS 1012
ppm 506

 

[fabzster]

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A couple of pics to start off the day

 

[Scientific]

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A couple of pics to start off the day

Everything looking good, especially the first couple of shots! That growth is so dense you might even have to start thinking about defoliating!

Really nice!

 

[Scientific]

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That growth is so dense you might even have to start thinking about defoliating!

Oh, wait... is that the one that got topped and trained in the bottom shot? In any case, all look great!

 

[fabzster]

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Oh, wait... is that the one that got topped and trained in the bottom shot? In any case, all look great!

hahahha

Yeah, I already defoliated the bottom growth when she was topped, the first pic is how bushy she got again and the last pic is the same one that I am further training to try get the top branches to come down a bit.

I do think you are right about removing some more leaves, but that would just make it bushier wouldn't it?