MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 — Lowrider 2

Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

Thanks King, they are looking a lot better now I have adjusted the pH down from 8.6. The Lowrider are autoflower which are supposed to start flowering about after 2 weeks of veg but mine are very late developers and they were in veg for 9 weeks so I am hoping the grow will be complete in another 5 to 7 weeks.

I call this my dirty grow 'cos I didn't have the money to start with everything I wanted and have slowly been improving things over the last 2 months. I now have a digital pH meter and a home made 9,700 lumens CFL grow light which is good for 2 plants.

I have a fair theoretical knowledge from reading in detail about 12 completed journals (I especially like Doc Bud's ones). Now I am turning the theory into practise but I am trying to keep things as simple as I think possible.

The Lowrider is supposed to deliver about 40g yield under good conditions but on this grow I will be content with 10g, any more I will consider a plus. I have another 8 Lowrider seeds so I will grow them all and hope in future to achieve closer to the 40g per plant. I also had 20 mixed seeds which came as a freebie with the LRs, the first 4 didn't germinate but I am hopeful that the fifth one will as I have researched and refined my germinating process and of course I am now using tap water adjusted to pH 6.5. We shall see.

Whatever happens I will not lose my sense of humour.:)
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

Thats exactly how i started out i only started out with FF Big Grow Hydro and Big Bloom and even now im only using those 2 and now i have Tiger Bloom still trying to get my hand on a bottle of Cha-Ching since its intended on begin used throughout the entire flower period.

But so far i think its going good lol.

i hav a few friends that grow and 1 that gave me the seeds i used in this grow and he said mine are looking better then his did bu i seen his and smoked so my expectations are kinda high im hoping to produce about 9 oz. of dried bud but will see.

So have you tired other strains or how many grows have you completed?
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

I am a complete newb, I mean I don't even smoke yet but I want to try some good stuff and that means growing it myself and I have read about 12 very good completed journals in detail, taken notes on a lot of good info. If you read my whole journal, it's not long you will see details on the 2 x 55w PLL CFL I put together myself but like I said on your journal as you are growing way more plants than me T5 or T8 might be a better way to go. I stress the might 'cos I haven't done the maths cost v power v lumens as in my restricted space it had to be PLL CFL. BTW if you want to photos and specs of a PLL CFL google Osram dulux L and post #11 of this journal.

Best
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

alright bro i will check those out right now and i should have the pivs up of the heavy defloration in about 5 mins on my journal.
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

well my new pics are up so check them out whe you get a chance but im subscribed here already so ill be keeping a close eye on your ladies you got there ive been thinking about trying out some auto-strains too so maybe with your help i could find the right ones to try out.

SO how long does it take from seed and do you start in 12/12? or how long is your photoperiod?
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

I see what you mean about severe defoliation, it looks like you let a mad man with a machete into your grow room but on the bright side you still have some greenery and they all get light. I suspect however that our plants are more resilient than many give them credit for. As the man said don't worry, be happy.

Well as you know I am growing Lowrider 2 which is supposed to auto flower and yield 40g per plant. Photoperiod is supposed to be either 18/6 or 24/0 the entire grow of 9 to 10 weeks. I have yet to read a journal here where the yield is 40g and I have seen a lot of reports that they did not autoflower.

Mine hadn't flowered after 9 weeks and flowered about 1 week after i put them on 14/10 ie 12/12 give or take a couple of hours. I planted 2 and one is female and I think the other is a male, just not too sure yet. I still have 8 LR 2 seeds and will continue growing them but only in my final grows will I have a real idea of what yield to expect.

At the moment I am thinking my next LR 2 from this batch I will grow 22/2 until 1 foot high and then put them on flowering photoperiod as I do not trust this batch to autoflower.

So just now I would neither say yep go for them or nope don't bother. One current grower recently chopped his first Lowryder AK47 strain and he was well pleased with the smoke of his 9g yield. his 2nd plant looks like it will yield more and he intends to grow more. His grow had a poor start similar to mine but for different reasons.

So basically wait until I have completed all my seeds which will take about a year or if you fancy give them a try. I am sorry but I cannot be any more helpful than that. The good thing is that they don't take long to complete a grow.

Best
 
I know you all can spend many happy hours just gazing longingly at MJ plants and ever helpful as I am here's some mild weed porn for everyone. Neither of my plants are showing any signs of buds yet.

Day 76 Una. I still cannot tell if Una is wearing underpants or knickers. 17 inches high and a lot bushier than other Lowriders I have seen but has the characteristic long narrow leaves of the lowrider.
Day76unacrop.jpg


Day 76 Listy. She is definitely a girl and all my hopes are riding on her.
Day76listycrop.jpg
 
Hey Munchbaccy!! Read through your grow and so far looks like your doing your research and the plants seem to be pretty happy!! It sounds like your working on a budget and slowly adding things, a few things I would recommend from also doing a lot of reading are these.

I would definitely recommend adding Molassass to your waterings. Just do a quick google search on Molassass and seems that this is key to flowering especially, but also for veg. From what I read, this feeds your soil Microbiology and allows them to produce carbs/sugars for your plants. I have only read good about using Molassass.

I also have been using Humic Acid with my grow, not the cheepest, but seems to really have a lot of positive strong information about its uses with soil plants. It also seems to feed the soil, and help break down organics to usable mediums for the plants. I also have been using it in my foliar sprays and really seems to make the plants respond happily!!

I have also been giving my plants some organic teas. Very inexpensive to make and my plants love it...as well as many others that use this technique. Basicly you take a 5 gallon bucket, air pump and airstone, an old nylon stocking and make a organic tea. Fill the teabag/old nylon with a few scoops of organic soil, some organic compost, if you have access to some bat or seabird guano's definitely a plus...and earthworm casings...throw in a few TBSP's of blackstrap molassass and bubble for 24 to 48 hours. When it smells sweet and earthy, and has a nice bubble layer on top..feed your babies...this will really help bring a active microbiology to your soil...your ladies will love you!!

These are things that I found upon my research and reading that were very commonly used and seemed to show very positive results....

Also...I have been using seaweed extract and have read very good things about seaweed extract as a soil nutrient as well as a foliar spray...
I use General Organics Bio-weed.

Best of luck to you for your grow...hope what I have found helps you as well...I saved a majority of the links with the detailed proof and info on these techniques if you need them.... I'm seated up and ready for hyperdrive into flowering!!!

your more than welcome to check out my grow journal as well. I did a lot of reading before starting my first grow, and tried to be as detailed as possible. Most of what I have done so far seems to be right, and everything I have done has been fully researched before application, so I hope it may help you as well.!!! :popcorn:
 
:welcome:

Icemud said:
Hey Munchbaccy!! Read through your grow and so far looks like your doing your research and the plants seem to be pretty happy!! It sounds like your working on a budget and slowly adding things, a few things I would recommend from also doing a lot of reading are these.

I would definitely recommend adding Molassass to your waterings. Just do a quick google search on Molassass and seems that this is key to flowering especially, but also for veg. From what I read, this feeds your soil Microbiology and allows them to produce carbs/sugars for your plants. I have only read good about using Molassass.

I also have been using Humic Acid with my grow, not the cheepest, but seems to really have a lot of positive strong information about its uses with soil plants. It also seems to feed the soil, and help break down organics to usable mediums for the plants. I also have been using it in my foliar sprays and really seems to make the plants respond happily!!

I have also been giving my plants some organic teas. Very inexpensive to make and my plants love it...as well as many others that use this technique. Basicly you take a 5 gallon bucket, air pump and airstone, an old nylon stocking and make a organic tea. Fill the teabag/old nylon with a few scoops of organic soil, some organic compost, if you have access to some bat or seabird guano's definitely a plus...and earthworm casings...throw in a few TBSP's of blackstrap molassass and bubble for 24 to 48 hours. When it smells sweet and earthy, and has a nice bubble layer on top..feed your babies...this will really help bring a active microbiology to your soil...your ladies will love you!!

These are things that I found upon my research and reading that were very commonly used and seemed to show very positive results....

Also...I have been using seaweed extract and have read very good things about seaweed extract as a soil nutrient as well as a foliar spray...
I use General Organics Bio-weed.

Best of luck to you for your grow...hope what I have found helps you as well...I saved a majority of the links with the detailed proof and info on these techniques if you need them.... I'm seated up and ready for hyperdrive into flowering!!!

your more than welcome to check out my grow journal as well. I did a lot of reading before starting my first grow, and tried to be as detailed as possible. Most of what I have done so far seems to be right, and everything I have done has been fully researched before application, so I hope it may help you as well.!!! :popcorn:
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Thanks Icemud. A really good post from you and I am glad to get it on my journal. You got it, money is very tight so I started with the essentials and added the good to haves as and when I could. Bigger pots, a better grow light, digital pH meter, a strong magnifying glass and so on.

Please do post the links here for others to benefit as well.

I already mix molasses into every batch of nutes I make up at 2 tbspn per gallon. i will look into Humic acid as a foliar spray but as to the other things I am actually moving away from soil to coco coir. The soil I started with had black gnat larvae in it and that put me off using soil as it makes me feel kind of like having unprotected sex. I am kind of doing a hempy grow in that I have a reservoir at the bottom of my pots.

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of your grow as I with the strains you are doing just now i probably would not have have gone otherwise but now I am looking forward to what sounds like a good journal. I wont be buying seeds again for probably the next 2 years if some of my freebies germinate.

Best
 
Glad to have you here on the site and I will try to offer my best advice, being that I am also on my first grow, I try to research as much as I can before trying or recommending tips so hopefully I can assist as much as I can...

Here are some of the links that really helped me out..

Ph and TDS explained
TDS and pH Explained | BGHydro

A lot of general and specific growing info...
Topping, Pruning and Bending Cannabis Marijuana Plants

Soil and pest issues explained
Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

A good guide to compost tea
https://www.--------.org/organics/48966-basic-compost-tea-guide.html

A really good guide to different nutrients
https://www.igrowhydro.com/InfoSheets/InfoSheet-Nutrients.pdf

An excellent nutrient shootout, very detailed and tons of good information in this study
A top nutrient study - Which is the best? Produces most?

These are just a few of the many links I saved thru my research process however, these are some of the better one's I have found...I hope they help everyone as they have helped me understand cannabis and its growing environment..... I invite everyone to check out my grow journal and leave comments....and please rate my thread!!! thanks...

I will stay tuned and try to help with what I can!! Best of luck to you!! and welcome!!
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

Thanks bro :)

I will see how I get on with the coco coir. If I end up not liking it then I will have to reconsider soil if I can get some quality stuff local.
 
On another journal someone asked me why I was using PLL CFL rather than spirals or sticks. I have hinted about why earlier here when I was describing my grow light build in post #11. I think it is worthwhile reproducing my answer here.

There are two types of CFL integrated and non-integrated. Spiral and sticks are integrated, that is the have a cheap ECG ( electronic control gear) built in. Non-Integrated T5, T8, and PLL have a more expensive seperate ECG. It is normal for a relatively cheap tube to be replaced 5 or more times in the working life of an ECG. The better ECG produces more lumens per watt, 55 watts of spiral CFL wil produce about 3,000 lumens whilst a 55w PLL produces 4,700 lumens and more of that light actually gets to the plant.

Of course spiral and stick CFLs are simple to use having 'normal' domestic fittings but higher power spiral CFLs are expensive.

I am only growing 2 plants at a time so I use the PLL type which is basically 2 x half length tubes side by side but my grow light could handle 4 plants in a square. If I was growing in a bigger space I would use T5 or T8 I don;t know which since I haven't done the maths on them.
 
Well it is day 77 and I did some work on Una. You all know Una by now, the modest one who wont discuss sex with me. Quite a few budding sites are appearing all over the plant but light to them was being blocked by higher up fan leaves. Yesterday I just moved the stems around a bit but today I decided a more permanent fix was required. I started by removing the dead and trimming the damaged leaves. Now I am glad that I previously practised LSTing on listy because I could immediately see what I needed to do. So out with the dremel and holes quickly drilled round the circumference of the pot for tying down the gardening tie wrap ( £2 for a 100m roll ). Lengths were securely attached to the pot and hooked round the plant stems. I only hook onto stems so there is no chance of causing any damage.


New budding sites on Una
Day77Unabcrop.jpg


Una with the LST in place taking many budding sites out of the shade
Day77Unaacrop.jpg


BTW I modified my avatar and MunchBaccy is now smokin'. Well the avatar actually is the one doing the smokin'
 
Mimedhead, that is the most impressive photo of a Lowrider I have ever seen. You must really know these plants. Thanks for posting the photo here as there are a few readers here currently growing LRs or thinking of it and seeing a photo like yours will be a big help :Namaste:
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

heck yes see that pic Munch see thats what im talking baout its pics like that that have me thinking about ging with some low ryders.
 
I can feel your excitement in the way you're writing King. I must have looked at that photo about 40 times today myself. Of course too much learning and too many mistakes for mine to be anything like that but, I have another 8 seeds tucked away....... and I have a better grow light and some of the nice to have stuff now that I didn't have 11 weeks ago.

Looking at how well your Sour D grow went so far I'd say you have a real chance of doing the Lowrider 2 some justice. And the grow time is so . o . o fast.

Best
 
I now realise I have made another newbie mistake. When I decided to force flowering I changed my CFLs for warm white ones but I should leave them on daylight white until the buds are well grown. I will have to research the best time to change over the lights unless anyone has an opinion?
 
Re: MunchBaccy's Dirty First Grow 2011 – Lowrider 2

with the fact that you have been vegin for so long i dont it will effect your plants too much.
-KS
 
I gave Listy a good flushing and put her back in the grow cupboard. In retrospect now that I look at her I think my LST was a good thing as being spread out she gets good penetration of light all over her growth. Now if she would just start giving me some buds.

Day 81 Listy before I lower the grow light
Day_81Listycrop.jpg
 

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