Incredible Bulk - Money Maker & Holy Grail 69 - LED Grow

[ptk2k]

Strains (all feminised): Incredible Bulk (Dr. Krippling)
80% indica / 20% sativa
Genetics: Big Bud x Super Skunk x Green Spirit

Money Maker (Strain Hunters)
70% indica 30% sativa
Genetics: Master Kush x Hindu Kush x Skunk

Holy Grail 69 (Samsara)
Sativa dominant
Genetics: Matanuska Tundra x Chronic x Haze

Lighting: 400w Apollo LED

Relative Temperature: 70F - 85F

Relative Humidity: 50% - 75%

Medium: Fertilome Soil in 5 gallon buckets

Nutes: General Hydroponics Flora Series

Taproots showed after two days in damp paper towels. (10/28/15)

The Incredible Bulk was the first to sprout. (10/29/15)

The Holy Grail sprouted the next day, and the Money Maker the following day.

One week in. (11/8/15)

Today. (11/14/15)

All in all there are no issues! They're all growing very short and stout with insanely strong stalks. Let me know what you all think! Happy growing!

 

[Stanovich420]

re: Incredible Bulk - Money Maker & Holy Grail 69 - LED Grow

I'm in

 

[ptk2k]

re: Incredible Bulk - Money Maker & Holy Grail 69 - LED Grow

You won't regret it :^)

 

[Stanovich420]

re: Incredible Bulk - Money Maker & Holy Grail 69 - LED Grow

You won't regret it :^)

Every journal is knowledge shared

That word doesn't exist in my vocabulary

 

[ptk2k]

Hey all! Quick update for these LED ladies here. They're all growing great, insanely short and stout for the most part. I want to bend them each one direction to expose the inner nodes but all 3 of them are sturdy as wood.. I'm scared that if I even bend them a little they'll snap. I mean they're INSANELY strong.. Their cotyledons haven'y even turned yellow yet! Let me know what you think!

 

[ptk2k]

Growing more and more each day

Side note-- If anyone has experience with No-Pest Strips, please visit my other journal and give me some insight!

 

[ert3tyyhr]

Is something I did when starting with led's if you want to stretch them out start and keep under florescent light for the first 2 to 3 weeks and let them stretch out a bit. Led lights are very directional and need to be 16 to 18 inches above young plants or they will have short thick growth the nodes will be very close to gather. If height is an issue then short is good but if not then stretch them out a bit. I don't move to flower by a date or week number when plant is 3' tall because the bloom stretch will take them to end in 12 inches from lights.
You are doing very good they are pretty girls. Just thought I would suggest some things I learned.

 

[ptk2k]

Thanks hermit! I recently moved the light up so it is about 18 inches from the plants, my buddy suggested it, same reason you did. My LED tent is about 8ft tall so stockier is better I'm going to bend them once they're about six inches taller or so. Thanks for the insight!

 

[ptk2k]

Hey everyone! The ladies are doing great. I've noticed some yellowing on a few leaves, causing the leaf to become brittle where it's yellow. Is this a deficiency or light burn? I haven't fed them yet so I can't imagine it's nute burn.. Let me know please & thanks

 

[Stanovich420]

Try some Ponytailing method to expose undergrowth Check Atrain journals
Ponytailing +tucking get's you more like a bush,and more level tops
Tried first time and it's a game changer
LST is always good,and don't be afraid to bend tops,do it steady...
I usually bend till i hear/feel that stem is cracking,and that's were i stop.
Some people go and actually break them with no Mercy,but i wouldn't suggest that

Regarding your light,i would have it at 24" let them stretch a bit.
You got decent led and you should bring it down to 12"-18" when flowering.
Since your light is 80*5w led it's canopy penetration is more intense,and I would keep young plants at distance
They are more like lasers,which can burn young plants
I starting my seedlings at 30" roughly and then move closer as older they get...


Take care,you doing great

 

[ert3tyyhr]

I thought you might watch the leaves and not the tip but the general leaf at the very top and then the tips if you moved out to far the leaves toward the top of the plant will tell you if you moved it out to far. If light is to far even the saw edge of the tips will point up also watch the general leaf it will tell all about the plant. You will see it all at one time or the other. I use this because my growing area is just a little short and if I hit the stretch out just right then buds don't get to close to the lights at the end. I have one thing to add about poney tailing which I use as a last step if my top buds are going to enter that zone of burn it with leds. Some will shoot this down as being carried away on the pinch. This works and it will help. Get a couple old wooden close pins like you use to hang wash to dry. Pinch only just before it goes into a dark cycle and put the close pin in a place that will hold the bent zone down with it's weight at the end of a big water leaf. Now wait for a few days then remove close pin from the leaf and it will start to straighten back up. I will explain if you pinch and the lights stay on it will start back up right then not what you want. Under the dark period the stem cells will start to set when you put the close pin on the biggest water leaf at the end of longest leaf it will keep just a little pressure on the bend, setting it in place, and you will have a ponytail about 3 or 4 inches long and it will also make several new buds. I have read a lot about how tall your plant will be and because most seeds are hybrid it could follow either of the strains and one is always taller than the other so inconsistences is why 4 plants don't grow the same height even with same mother. Rule of thumb use the back of your hand and place between top of plant and light if is hot to you think about 12 hours of that heat every day. Like everything done to your plants if trim or pinch or any changes to it will take time and it will slow the plant down and take time to show what is happening. In bloom growth it could be an increase of more than 1/3 of it start height.

 

[ptk2k]

Alright Stanovich, I moved the light up to 32" from the canopy & I've never heard of pony-tailing! I'm definitely going to look into it. & hermit -- I have never heard of the close pin method for LST! Sounds like it could be very helpful. Thanks you guys!

 

[Stanovich420]

I would move more like 24-26",cause your plants are good size
Check out his method,brilliant
A-Train's Autoflower Test Run - Ponytailing & Low Stress Training

 

[ItsNatural]

Im in. Im a noob looking to get all the info I can b4 my first indoor grow. I also plan on growing Money Maker with LED, so Im excited to see how yours turns out. I have most of my supplies but xmas hit so Im now going to wait for the rest of the stuff I need. May I ask what drove you to choose Money Maker?

 

[ItsNatural]

I guess you quit the journal?

 

[doctor green]

I wanna sub, I'm going to grow incredible bulk next and holy grail is one of my all time fav strains, really start the journal!

 

[ptk2k]

Hello everyone! Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I've been in a fight with mites in one of my other grows. It sucks! I've also been busy with work and doing experiments with random bag seeds / freebies. ANYWAYS, ItsNatural- I chose to grow a Money Maker because I really dig Master Kush. However it's turning out to be a very small stocky plant, not complaining, just turned out to be the runt haha. These girls are just getting bigger and bigger.
(Holy Grail in back left, Money Maker on the Right, & Incredible Bulk front & center)

Holy Grail 69

Money Maker

Incredible Bulk

I actually extended the tent & put these girls in the extended area. Then added a 300w LED where they used to be for a small auto grow! The three seedlings in the larger pots are femmed Fast & Vast Autos (journal coming soon). The others are two Afghani's (germination experiments) & the other is a femmed Bubba's Gift.

Happy growing everyone! I'll do my best to log in more often / answer any questions!

 

[doctor green]

Looking good mate

 

[ptk2k]

I'd also like to add that each plant has 3 points at which they are tied down. Whenever the main top grows 4 inches or more after a tie down, i tie it down again, in the same direction. This way if the main top is twisted all the way around the pot, or even half way, a TON of inner nodes are exposed, creating more main tops. I love LST! (I make sure the loops are loose enough to where the stalk won't start to grow around the string)

 

[doctor green]

Yep LST all the way that's how I get my monsters too, great job mate

I'd also like to add that each plant has 3 points at which they are tied down. Whenever the main top grows 4 inches or more after a tie down, i tie it down again, in the same direction. This way if the main top is twisted all the way around the pot, or even half way, a TON of inner nodes are exposed, creating more main tops. I love LST! (I make sure the loops are loose enough to where the stalk won't start to grow around the string)