Fire OG - JD Lightings

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Note: These leaves are the 1st true leaves, they have an unusual discoloring.

Whats up with the leaves, are they from her?

Yes they are, they were the first true leaves. I am not sure what happened? I just turned on the lights one day and then it looked like that...

Is there any damage to the new leaves as well?

High JuicySoil,

No, those were the only leaves like that. All the other leaves are nice and green.

This is just an observation on my part, and by no means based in science...but the plants drop those first leaves anyway...In my garden I've noticed the quicker the plant takes off, and the healthier it is, the quicker they seem to drop them. I don't think you have a thing to worry about...

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

This is just an observation on my part, and by no means based in science...but the plants drop those first leaves anyway...In my garden I've noticed the quicker the plant takes off, and the healthier it is, the quicker they seem to drop them. I don't think you have a thing to worry about...

High Vapedogg223,

Yea I wasn't worried about it, if more of the leaves had done it, then I would be worried. But til then, she grows on.

Note: Afgoo is starting to droop like a overwatering has been done, yet I have the water level at or below the cap, the roots are in the water, so this might be the cause of it.

 

[SmokzAlot]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Hey guys I have not tried this style yet but consider this...

Most plants will tolerate 20%-30% of their roots constantly wet. What percentage are you running? It may be that simple... more O2 vs water. If you are in coco, I would not count that as an out of water percentage. In a DWC where routinely Hydroton is used, I would count the medium as a dry percentage.

Just my thoughts...

Does that make sense?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Hey guys I have not tried this style yet but consider this...

Most plants will tolerate 20%-30% of their roots constantly wet. What percentage are you running? It may be that simple... more O2 vs water. If you are in coco, I would not count that as an out of water percentage. In a DWC where routinely Hydroton is used, I would count the medium as a dry percentage.

Just my thoughts...

Does that make sense?

High SmokaAlot,

Thanks for the input, I am the only one in Twelve12's experiment for the 2L DWC-H that is doing this in soil, I am also the only one doing a seed 12/12 and not from a clone. This is entirely a experiment run, so any advice or feedback is welcomed here. I like to get everyones opinions on my test runs. At this moment, there is a inch gap from water to the cap, and then there of course are roots in the bottle as well.

 

[Goldengoose7]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Its a fine line with how much water the roots can handle. When I start my spring grow as I am doing now, and use Coco, I have to watch the soil moisture until I get them outside. Indoors, Coco can stay too saturated and cause root problems.

The issue is oxygen. The roots need some time in the air to get what they need, otherwise the plant starts to droop and you can get leaf discoloration if it goes on too long.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Its a fine line with how much water the roots can handle. When I start my spring grow as I am doing now, and use Coco, I have to watch the soil moisture until I get them outside. Indoors, Coco can stay too saturated and cause root problems.

The issue is oxygen. The roots need some time in the air to get what they need, otherwise the plant starts to droop and you can get leaf discoloration if it goes on too long.

High Goldengoose7,

Thanks for your input, I have soil inside the 2L but then it goes into the water, I don't know if it is the soil that is to wet, or if it just the roots soaking it up?

 

[SmokzAlot]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Are you watering through the soil to the DWC? How much drainage does your soil have as well? Try lowering the level more, would be my suggestion and let the soil run a little drier if you can...

I been watchin you 2l guys, I will give it whirl in time...

 

[Goldengoose7]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

High Goldengoose7,

Thanks for your input, I have soil inside the 2L but then it goes into the water, I don't know if it is the soil that is to wet, or if it just the roots soaking it up?

I don't like the idea of the roots sitting in water. Just my personal opinion and feeling about it, but I put a lot of effort into good drainage when I pack my pots because a good root ball is everything when you get right down to it.

I would suggest lowering the water level or remove it altogether.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

oh no no no, it gets changed, it is there for the day, the night, then the next day I change the water out to tap. then repeat. the next day I put nute water in, repeat. and so on.

At the end of this there should be a major root mass that will soak up all the water in a days time. Check out Twelve12's journal on 2L DWC-H for more info on what were doing.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

I don't like the idea of the roots sitting in water. Just my personal opinion and feeling about it, but I put a lot of effort into good drainage when I pack my pots because a good root ball is everything when you get right down to it.

I would suggest lowering the water level or remove it altogether.

Just remember that with hempy, that's by design...the lower roots get into the reservoir and act as a taproot, but the water in the bottom is used up before the next watering.

Hempy also uses perlite and vermiculite for the medium so there's always plenty of oxygen...

 

[mikey420]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

All caught up on this one. It really shows how strong these girls can be. But no more fights with my internet provider, so SUBD my green friend.

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

oh no no no, it gets changed, it is there for the day, the night, then the next day I change the water out to tap. then repeat. the next day I put nute water in, repeat. and so on.

At the end of this there should be a major root mass that will soak up all the water in a days time. Check out Twelve12's journal on 2L DWC-H for more info on what were doing.

Every other day you pour pure tap water through the top? I was only changing the res out weekly-- not often enough?

 

[ilikebike]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

i started my 2L DWC-H in a jiffy pod then moved it to the 2L bottle, I haven't seen signs of over watering, maybe it is showing signs of over watering for you because soil retains way more moisture than perlite or coco

 

[Twelve12]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Hey Astonr420! Since there is reservoir for the roots, try and let the soil dry out a bit before watering/feeding. Too much of it will cause deficiencies since soil itself already contain some nutrients within, and your 1st true leaves are showing signs. Water it once more and let leave it alone for 2-3 days then water it again. When water don't over do it, just enough that the top is wet throughout then let the access drips and collect at the bottom. The roots below will use it when there is drought from above.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Every other day you pour pure tap water through the top?

No, I don't go through the top til the soil dry's out.

I was only changing the res out weekly-- not often enough?

I empty through the hole, I have a 2L bottle ready with either the water or the nutes at the same line where I want it to fill up at, after I empty the res through the drain hole, I lift the top off and pour in quickly to not dry out the roots.

i started my 2L DWC-H in a jiffy pod then moved it to the 2L bottle, I haven't seen signs of over watering, maybe it is showing signs of over watering for you because soil retains way more moisture than perlite or coco

Yea it's cus I am in soil. it stay moist even when the water is not touching the cap.

Hey Astonr420! Since there is reservoir for the roots, try and let the soil dry out a bit before watering/feeding. Too much of it will cause deficiencies since soil itself already contain some nutrients within, and your 1st true leaves are showing signs. Water it once more and let leave it alone for 2-3 days then water it again. When water don't over do it, just enough that the top is wet throughout then let the access drips and collect at the bottom. The roots below will use it when there is drought from above.

As I said to SurfBuddy, I don't water the soil until it dries, but I think the roots that are uptaking the water/nutes is keeping the soil moist, it has been 3 days, wait it's night time now, 4 days, without watering, and it still feels moist? do you think the roots will keep the soil moist like that?

 

[thspot]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

im in it to win it-- hey astonr

 

[Truth Seeker]

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im in it to win it-- hey astonr

High thspot,

How was your trip, glad to see you made it back sound and mind! Also glad you found your way over here to one of the new journals. Last time we chatted, we were still in the GDP era. Hope you check out my End of Time journal as well.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

Picture Update:​

Just today, I put in a air pump with an air stone. With the leaves on the bottom turning yellow now, I felt that maybe the roots just are not growing into it due to lack of air, and not to mention that the soil has been waterless for 6 days now and still moist at about inch and a half deep. I think the roots are carrying up the water to the soil and keeping it moist, not totally sure on that, but that is my suspicion so I thought I would just add the air pump til roots can spread throughout the bottom. I am using a 1/2 strength solution with BPN Farmer's Pride Grow, Bloom and Micro. I leave the solution in the bottle for 2 days, then change out with regular tap water for 1 day, repeat.

Afgoo - 2L DWC-H

Now for the Fire OG, she is 21 days into flowering in the photos, which was yesterday the 24th. She has not had much growth since moving into flower, last change in growth that I measured was on the 20th at 26.25 inches, before that was 25.75 on the 18th. I am now using a Full Flower mix with BPN Farmer's Pride: 20ml Grow, 30 ml Bloom and 15ml Micro. Also for the last 5 feedings I have been adding SNS 209 due to I am in flower and I can not spray the flowers with the SNS 217 or at least that is what I presume. Any how it can't hurt to implement a barrier for them so I don't have to spray the flowers.
I am going to have to find out if I can spray the Spider Mite Control on flowering girls, just in case I need to spray the outdoor girls down in flowering. Although I will be applying SNS 209 to them throughout the grow as well. I didn't have much time to get many photos, I just took some of the buds that are having some amazing growth.

Fire OG Bud Porn

Also would like to note that this baby is showing the most pistols I have ever seen on a plant, this early into flowering. I am not sure if it is the amazing 660w of power from the JD Lighting Ballast or the FloraSun 600w HPS bulb from Webhydro.com that is pushing out 92,000 Lumens, but it could be the both giving the power from the top and the BPN pushing from the bottom. All I know is, this is like watching my first grow all over again.

 

[ilikebike]

Re: Fire OG - BPN x JD Lightings - Joint Ops

JD+BPN kicks ass. My Veg plants are growing at an Exponential rate. If i remember correctly this is your first time using HID to flower? oh man you will love the progress !

 

[Truth Seeker]

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JD+BPN kicks ass. My Veg plants are growing at an Exponential rate. If i remember correctly this is your first time using HID to flower? oh man you will love the progress !

Yes sir, first time HIDer right here, and I am in love already. With the amount of new growth and the amount of pistols coming out, I am sold!