Winter 2022 Gro & Flo Run

Hey @gr865, sorry late arriving.

Your grow is going great guns, interesting to see the ebb n flow method. It is way more involved than I am used to, but very cool to see.

I wondered if it is safer to avoid breaks when bending the stems, if you just super cropped them a bit. I think it was you who I first saw someone supercropping with pliers. But I've since adopted the practice and with a couple of wraps of tape around the jaws it's very good at bending a stem without breaking, which is something I'd often do with fingers. I recently have done dozens of supercrops with pliers and not had one break, and I've done them on stems that would have been too woody for fingers to do. Anyway you know far more about training them than I do, so I am just happy to watch and learn!
Thanks my friend, this grow method is fairly easy. I am just learning how to walk this way. Changing this up, add 2nd reservoir, move the control bucket out of the tent and add three more grow buckets.
But as of now I am happy with what is happening in the tent and looking forward to a fun flower period.
 
Just a few days into 12/12 so not much happening in the growth/stretch department.
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So on the 21st I put a number of clones in the cloning machine and in Solo coco/perlite cups and put them under low light.
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Those are in the same room as the tent was not able to get the room totally dark for the start of flowering. Built a rack to put them in at the far end of my shop.
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We then put dark landscape fabric around the rack to reduce the light in the room.
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I will be adding a second layer of fabric on the rack to further shield the light, not sure it is needed but better safe than sorry.
 
11 days since start of 12/12, beginning to stretch, drinking and eating a lot, about 1.5 to 2 gallons/day and the EC drops 0.1 to 0.2/three days.
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The clones from the cloning machine that I put into coco cups and the ones I had in coco plus about 24 more clones that I took on day 6 of 12/12. I lost 12 of the ones in the cloning machine and about half of the ones I originally had in coco cups. Had to do a bit of thinning as the plants were just to damn thick when I was tying them down.
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I know I will be doing a lot more thinning on day 21 of 12/12 as the insides of the plants or growing like they were monster crop clones.
 
Day 15 of 12/12, bud forming.
Did a rez change yesterday, it had been 23 days since last change. I am using the Torus XpH Capsule model which stabilizes the pH and helps extend reservoir time, this is the first time I have let it go this long but the solution was still stable after 3 plus weeks. The pH of the reservoir has stayed fairly stable, w/out adding any pH up or down, at 5.9 tp 6.1.
I just raised the solution EC from 0.9 to 1.1, a little late but not seeing any bad effects of waiting a could of weeks to raise the EC.
Just a few pics,
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Day 15 of 12/12, bud forming.
Did a rez change yesterday, it had been 23 days since last change. I am using the Torus XpH Capsule model which stabilizes the pH and helps extend reservoir time, this is the first time I have let it go this long but the solution was still stable after 3 plus weeks. The pH of the reservoir has stayed fairly stable, w/out adding any pH up or down, at 5.9 tp 6.1.
I just raised the solution EC from 0.9 to 1.1, a little late but not seeing any bad effects of waiting a could of weeks to raise the EC.
Just a few pics,
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Couldn't look any better. :thumb:
Hope your weekend is going well.
Take care. :passitleft:




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
 
Yesterday was a busy day, removed the plants, one at a time, and did the 21 day defoliation and Lollipop.
These plants aren't tall but damn they were thick, took a packed 5 gallon bucket off the 6 plants and added it to my compost bin.
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My EC monitor probe died on me yesterday, ordered new one, so this afternoon when I add back the 6 gallons they have drank since Thursday I will be adding very lite nutrients and not chance overfeeding them. They have been drinking just under 3 gallons per day. That should drank a bit less due to the defoliation but should kick back in after they recover from the defo.
I put a new XPH REFILL POD in the reservoir yesterday and it is working perfect, pH this morning was 6.01. It had been fluctuation the past few days and I called Torus and they told me to replace the pod, I had only one and he said he was sending me a 3 pack of pods on Torus, nice folks and they have English speaking tech support. I was skeptical when I first heard about Torus XPH from a friend, but I have been using them now since my last grow and they do what they say they will do, keeping the pH within the zone, 5.5 to 6.5, mainly around 6 with no need to add pH Up or Down.
 
Yesterday was a busy day, removed the plants, one at a time, and did the 21 day defoliation and Lollipop.
These plants aren't tall but damn they were thick, took a packed 5 gallon bucket off the 6 plants and added it to my compost bin.
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My EC monitor probe died on me yesterday, ordered new one, so this afternoon when I add back the 6 gallons they have drank since Thursday I will be adding very lite nutrients and not chance overfeeding them. They have been drinking just under 3 gallons per day. That should drank a bit less due to the defoliation but should kick back in after they recover from the defo.
I put a new XPH REFILL POD in the reservoir yesterday and it is working perfect, pH this morning was 6.01. It had been fluctuation the past few days and I called Torus and they told me to replace the pod, I had only one and he said he was sending me a 3 pack of pods on Torus, nice folks and they have English speaking tech support. I was skeptical when I first heard about Torus XPH from a friend, but I have been using them now since my last grow and they do what they say they will do, keeping the pH within the zone, 5.5 to 6.5, mainly around 6 with no need to add pH Up or Down.
Wow :yahoo: Thick , omg.:welldone:
What a garden Amigo. :ciao:
Hope your having a nice weekend my friend.
Take care.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
 
This is the current setup, 6 plant, Active Aqua Grow Flow (Ebb and Flow).
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Just purchased another 6 pot expansion kit and after this grow is finished will be setting this up in the
5 X 5.
At present the control pot sits inside the tent but going to move it outside of the tent, see drawing below. Have to add extra nutrient solution, at present adding 30 gallons for the six plants and will increase that to 39 to 42 gallons. Also looking into adding another reservoir as a refill rez to keep the primary rez filled, just have to figure out how to set it up. So all you smart guys out there, HELP! :rofl:
I will also have to split a port using a 1/4 inch Tee on the Orbit 8 port manifold. Don't think that will be a problem as long as I keep the hoses the same length, the pump I am using should handle the extra pot with no problems.
Here is the proposed setup! Adding three 5 gallon buckets and will need extra 3/4 inch hose but not problem as it comes with the kit. Only thing that is still needed is two 3/4 inch tees but next time I go to the city will pick them up at Lowes.
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What do you folks think?
 
When the new setup is complete I will be starting flower much sooner than I did on this grow. I am lucky that these plants a not very tall but I think if I start the plants in the future sooner I will not have any problems with height.
Also plan on setting up some form of screen to tie the plants down. Trying to get some 3 X 3 welded wire if I can get the company to sell me just a small piece. I think they make a 3 x 3 inch that I can get in a 6 x 6 foot and cut it down to fit my tent.
 
This is the current setup, 6 plant, Active Aqua Grow Flow (Ebb and Flow).
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Just purchased another 6 pot expansion kit and after this grow is finished will be setting this up in the
5 X 5.
At present the control pot sits inside the tent but going to move it outside of the tent, see drawing below. Have to add extra nutrient solution, at present adding 30 gallons for the six plants and will increase that to 39 to 42 gallons. Also looking into adding another reservoir as a refill rez to keep the primary rez filled, just have to figure out how to set it up. So all you smart guys out there, HELP! :rofl:
I will also have to split a port using a 1/4 inch Tee on the Orbit 8 port manifold. Don't think that will be a problem as long as I keep the hoses the same length, the pump I am using should handle the extra pot with no problems.
Here is the proposed setup! Adding three 5 gallon buckets and will need extra 3/4 inch hose but not problem as it comes with the kit. Only thing that is still needed is two 3/4 inch tees but next time I go to the city will pick them up at Lowes.
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What do you folks think?
Looks good. From what I've heard, make sure you keep all your lines the same length to apply the same feed amount pressure wise. Are you going to recycle it back to main reservoir?

I would have a secondary reservoir. I would use the main for clean feed going in, the other for recycling the feed been through.
 
Looks good. From what I've heard, make sure you keep all your lines the same length to apply the same feed amount pressure wise. Are you going to recycle it back to main reservoir?

I would have a secondary reservoir. I would use the main for clean feed going in, the other for recycling the feed been through.
Yes on the irrigation line, both length and pressure.
Yes, when the pump starts filling the pots and control bucket it shuts down at a set depth in the control bucket. It then sits in the pots for 1.25 hours before it is pumped back to the main reservoir.
I do plan to put in a second reservoir but it will be to top off the main reservoir. Just have to figure out how to move solution from the 2nd rez to top off the main. Any thoughts on this?
 
Been three days since the 21st day defoliation and they are responding well.
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I do like the way the buds are forming, and going to spread them a bit to get more light to them.

I topped off the reservoir with 6 gallons on Saturday, they are drinking well, and today will need to top off with 6 gallons. Will be adding only very light nutrients to the solution because the replacement probe for my EC meter won't be delivered till Tuesday. When I get the new probe I will be stepping up my nutrient program.
The new XPH pod is working in the rez and maintaining the pH at a good number, this morning it was 6.09. Have not added any pH up or down since I change the rez on the 3rd of Feb. I do like the Torus system.
 
Yes on the irrigation line, both length and pressure.
Yes, when the pump starts filling the pots and control bucket it shuts down at a set depth in the control bucket. It then sits in the pots for 1.25 hours before it is pumped back to the main reservoir.
I do plan to put in a second reservoir but it will be to top off the main reservoir. Just have to figure out how to move solution from the 2nd rez to top off the main. Any thoughts on this?
Correction, it takes about 20 minutes to fill the control bucket and the pump shuts down. The roots then sit in the solution for another 25 minutes and then drains back to the reservoir, and the pots sit empty for 1.25 hours. This repeats 6 times during the 12 hours lights on period.
 
Been a week since the last update, things have been good. One issue arose last weekend, my EC meter probe crashed, got a new one shipped and am questioning the accuracy of the readings. The plants have been drinking about 3 gallons of nutrient solution every two days, But according to my new probe I am not seeing any drop in the EC reading. Contacting them today to try and resolve the issue.

So here we are at day 31 of 12/12. Buds are thickening but it at the point in the grow where looking at them every day, just don't see that growth.
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Sorry of the poor quality of my photos, phone is not good camera. Going to look for a better quality digital camera,
 
I am thinking I got the EC meter working again, we will see.
Had another issue this weekend, one of my new AC Infinity 6 inch Oscillating fan.

The fan started acting erratic, making noise and trying to stick when trying to reverse it course.
I sent them and email and got an immediate response, not wanting to wait for another email I called them this morning and they ask for the order number, my address and phone number. They said they are sending me a replacement today.
What great customer service!
 
The adventure continues!
Day 38 of 12/12
Last update was a week ago so let's see where we are today.
Got the EC cable for my MW 302 and all seems to working fine.
Got the replacement fan and it too seems to be working fine.
Noticed a little slime on the roots so after consulting with by buddy Rocky (he lives high (and I mean altitude lifestyle) in the Rocky Mountains) and he suggested Pool Shock at 0.10 to 0.50 grams per 10 gallons solution in my reservoir. I went with 0.20 grams and will give them two days and add it again.
He has been growing DWC for many years so I trust his advice. The cost of Pool Shock compared to food grade Hydrogen Peroxide was a factor in my decision.
You can see the healthy roots around the slim area. I am sure I caught it before much damage was caused.
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Other than this little set back the plants are doing OK. Do to my funky camera I have enhanced the photo a little.
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Did some Super Cropping to this Blueberry mainly for height control. Thinking this plant may be ready before any of the LSD plants are ready.

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Buds are stacking nicely!
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Trichomes are forming well.
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Can see the buds begin to swell, up and down the stems. :woohoo: :party:


See y'all in the funny papers! Have a good week.
:passitleft:
 
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