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DrewDrop
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I am. The Screen has been there for about a month now but ill add the second screen to even the canopy back out after the flowering stretch.
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HunterHunt
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You should have trained that middle growth to the sides so it opened up in the middle. Now all you have is a support screen. Your tops should still be under the net before you switch to flowering for a true SCROG. Looks awesome though and you will be able to still do some training and keep them under control with that second screen.
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I gotcha. Yea I wasn't exactly sure how that was supposed to go. I can still get them under the screen. Some branches won't reach to the next square tho so it won't be perfectly even. Aslong as it buds, I can deal with a slightly lumpy canopy. Ill probly add the Second screen anyway just for support and it might help even things out a bit after the stretch.
When place your ScrOG screen you should place it 12" above your pots to allow your to defoliate below the ScrOG screen and for good airflow. To create a ScrOG screen you must vegetate the plant(s) by weaving the branches through the ScrOG screen until the ScrOG screen is 60% full then switch to flower and continue to train the branches through the ScroG screen thorough the stretch phase of flowering. This will create a mostly even canopy ScrOG screen with mostly the same length colas and allow easy harvesting with a high gram per watt efficiency method of growing.
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The main reason I hadn't trained then middle shoots under the screen is because its very crowded already and im basicly just stacking foliage over top of other foliage. And to be honest I didnt really brush up on my scrog knowledge before doing this so im learning as I go. If I get 1.5 grams off each top then ill be happy. I cant even count all the tops..... 
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UPDATE!
Well i took HunterNitros advise and trained the rest of the limbs under the screen. It took a lot of moving around limbs and trying to get limbs under the screen without blocking other tops was damn near impossible. It's a jungle in there !! But I flattened her out the best I could.
I noticed a few pistils appear about 2 weeks ago. The lights were still on veg but I didn't think much of it because I've had other plants show sex before switching to flowering, what causes this??? I tried getting some pics with this little lense I found, its hard to see the pistol but I thought the pictures turned out kinda cool.
I'm going to give her a few days to recover from the training then I'll switch to flowering. Happy growing
Well i took HunterNitros advise and trained the rest of the limbs under the screen. It took a lot of moving around limbs and trying to get limbs under the screen without blocking other tops was damn near impossible. It's a jungle in there !! But I flattened her out the best I could.
I noticed a few pistils appear about 2 weeks ago. The lights were still on veg but I didn't think much of it because I've had other plants show sex before switching to flowering, what causes this??? I tried getting some pics with this little lense I found, its hard to see the pistol but I thought the pictures turned out kinda cool.
I'm going to give her a few days to recover from the training then I'll switch to flowering. Happy growing
HunterHunt
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Awesome!! Looking good! Thats one bushy girl. now all your colas will be even and you can get the lights right above the canopy at all times.
Also, Those pistils are the calyx and once a cannabis plant is "mature" it will show sex even before flowering. Even though you can flower a cannabis plant before maturity i have heard its best to wait until they show sexy to start flowering as the plant is then mature.
Also, Those pistils are the calyx and once a cannabis plant is "mature" it will show sex even before flowering. Even though you can flower a cannabis plant before maturity i have heard its best to wait until they show sexy to start flowering as the plant is then mature.
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Sweet! Yea she's my little shade tree. I havent named her yet but Penelope seems to feel right. So ill name her Penelope 
I burnt the poor thing today because im an idiot and mixed the nutes too high when I toped off the rez last night. Its not bad just the very tips of the leaves got burnt but either way i was pretty upset with myself. Also my roots are pushing off the bottom of the tote and its actually raising the net pot out of the tote. Those roots are strong, lifting the screen and everything.....the tote is only half full of roots tho so idk why there forcing downwards like that. Weird. Any way everything's going well and I learned today that going from 700ppm to 1300ppm all at once was too much for the little girl to handle, so were always learning. lol
Thanks HunterNitro, and Happy Growing everyone
I burnt the poor thing today because im an idiot and mixed the nutes too high when I toped off the rez last night. Its not bad just the very tips of the leaves got burnt but either way i was pretty upset with myself. Also my roots are pushing off the bottom of the tote and its actually raising the net pot out of the tote. Those roots are strong, lifting the screen and everything.....the tote is only half full of roots tho so idk why there forcing downwards like that. Weird. Any way everything's going well and I learned today that going from 700ppm to 1300ppm all at once was too much for the little girl to handle, so were always learning. lol
Thanks HunterNitro, and Happy Growing everyone
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A note, When you see signs of nute burn or deficiencies its usually from 3 days ago. It usually takes around 2-3 days for the burn to show from my experience.
1300 ppm?!! WOW! For a DWC grow that is a LOT. With my 4 foot wide DWC papaya i never went over 750-850 ppm as anything over that would start burning her.
Remember, less is more! Change out that reservoir and drop those PPM!
1300 ppm?!! WOW! For a DWC grow that is a LOT. With my 4 foot wide DWC papaya i never went over 750-850 ppm as anything over that would start burning her.
Remember, less is more! Change out that reservoir and drop those PPM!
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The nute spike didnt happen until last night so she reacted really quickly I guess, hopefully it wont get any worse over the next few days, ill keep a close eye on her. I like to max out around 800ppm but last night I was half asleep and mixed 1.5 gallons worth of nutes into a half gallon of water. I looked at them this morning and knew something was wrong so I checked ph which was fine then I saw the ppm and was like 
I wish I could change out the rez but for this grow all I can do is top it off. But I balanced It back out to 720ppm so hopefully she'll be alright.
I wish I could change out the rez but for this grow all I can do is top it off. But I balanced It back out to 720ppm so hopefully she'll be alright.
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Wait, What do you mean you can only top off? You cant change your nutrient solution? Why not?
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Inside the tote, the air hoses wernt flat against the walls of the tote. Thus the roots grew around the air hoses......this happened right after I solved my slime/root rot problem so the last thing I wanted to do was tear roots off inside the tote where they would break down and turn to bad bacteria so my only option was to either drill a drain hole and try to get it water tight all while the plant was still sitting in the tote, or i could just top it off.
I tried my best to find the link to a great article on topping off instead of changing your reservoir but couldnt find it. Some guy who's name I cant remember has it down to a science. Kinda like Hiesenburg and his tea recipe.... anyway its been working well for me. My ppm stays balanced (when I dont fuck them up) and I havent had any slime issues whatsoever. I would much rather be able to change the rez tho,
Google would be a big help if you wanted to look into it.
I tried my best to find the link to a great article on topping off instead of changing your reservoir but couldnt find it. Some guy who's name I cant remember has it down to a science. Kinda like Hiesenburg and his tea recipe.... anyway its been working well for me. My ppm stays balanced (when I dont fuck them up) and I havent had any slime issues whatsoever. I would much rather be able to change the rez tho,
Google would be a big help if you wanted to look into it.
UPDATE!
Well i took HunterNitros advise and trained the rest of the limbs under the screen. It took a lot of moving around limbs and trying to get limbs under the screen without blocking other tops was damn near impossible. It's a jungle in there !! But I flattened her out the best I could.
I noticed a few pistils appear about 2 weeks ago. The lights were still on veg but I didn't think much of it because I've had other plants show sex before switching to flowering, what causes this??? I tried getting some pics with this little lense I found, its hard to see the pistol but I thought the pictures turned out kinda cool.
I'm going to give her a few days to recover from the training then I'll switch to flowering. Happy growing
When a cannabis plant in vegetative growth develops pistils it is a sign of sexual maturity and the plant is ready to flower.
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DrewDrop
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I think I knew that, at one point.
Thanks KingJohn, sweet and to the point as always
Thanks KingJohn, sweet and to the point as always
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59 days from root.
Switched to flower last night 12/23
PPM 700-800 1/2 grow & 1/2 bloom
Penelope is already taking up most of the screen so hopefully shes like her mother and wont stretch too much.
My lights arnt big enough to cover the canopy so im going to have to either get a t5 fixture or an LED. I already have cfls so i'll probably get LED and do a side by side. Anyways heres the picture tour
I was putting in my flower bulbs the other night and had to take a picture, These bulbs would brush against the buds during flowering and all the sticky resin just stuck right on there
Heres Penelope on 12/22 before I flattened her out
Her's after. It doesnt look like much but thats about 30 mins of pulling shiits under the screen. (its much harder than i thought it would be) Its so crowded its disorienting lol
Here's Penelope's Rock hard stalk
The nute burn got a little worse over the next few days after it had happened but these pictures show the worst of it
Here's Penelope's mother (Charlotte) about 1.5 months into flowering (buds arn't big but there as dense as stone!)
Computers dying so thats all for now i have some more pics for later. Thanks for following along everyone
Happy Growing
Switched to flower last night 12/23
PPM 700-800 1/2 grow & 1/2 bloom
Penelope is already taking up most of the screen so hopefully shes like her mother and wont stretch too much.
My lights arnt big enough to cover the canopy so im going to have to either get a t5 fixture or an LED. I already have cfls so i'll probably get LED and do a side by side. Anyways heres the picture tour
I was putting in my flower bulbs the other night and had to take a picture, These bulbs would brush against the buds during flowering and all the sticky resin just stuck right on there
Heres Penelope on 12/22 before I flattened her out
Her's after. It doesnt look like much but thats about 30 mins of pulling shiits under the screen. (its much harder than i thought it would be) Its so crowded its disorienting lol
Here's Penelope's Rock hard stalk
The nute burn got a little worse over the next few days after it had happened but these pictures show the worst of it
Here's Penelope's mother (Charlotte) about 1.5 months into flowering (buds arn't big but there as dense as stone!)
Computers dying so thats all for now i have some more pics for later. Thanks for following along everyone
Happy Growing
patman13mia
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did you try back building your colas?? i read that is really beneficial!!!
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DrewDrop
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Im afraid I Don't know what that is and Google didn't give me any results. Can you explain what back building is?
patman13mia
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make sure you read all the way thru you can see ppl test the theory and shows you multiple times that it works..i am going to try it for sure!!
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DrewDrop
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Very interesting! I've seen some of lightaddicts work and he seems like he knows what he's talking about. I'll have to try this on some of my buds and see if I can tell a difference. Thanks for the link 
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