Really? Facultative anaerobes would out-compete aerobes in an aerobic environment (leaf surface)? Isn't this a question of competition, coexistence, or symbiosis? I vote competition, and the aerobes would win in this case. But I honestly don't know.
I never said they would out compete them. They would survive though. If aerobes could out compete the facultative anaerobes there likely wouldn't be f. anaerobes in the first place.
I'm talking about on the leaf surface of a cannabis plant sprayed with a beneficial aerobe-rich foliar spray of, for example, aerated worm compost tea. And the answer to that, of course, would be variable. Yeah?
To some extent, sure. The problem is that tea will have been colonized by all the microbes in the environment, not just aerobes, and not just beneficial aerobes.
What do you think that interval is, Mel?
I’ve recently used kombucha culture turn into acetic acid (vinegar), mixed with roasted egg shells, molasses. I have a jar closed lid (anaerobic) for over 3 weeks now. I haven’t sprayed yet.
Not sure, Azi.
Not sure, Azi.
watch out for molasses. here in the U.S. all molasses is labeled with the Calif. Prop. 65 heavy metals warning.
BTK needs to be reapplied about once a week. Every 7 to 10 days is the recommendation.
Time and temperature are both factors as well as the ingredients. Don't know about cubes, but as long as they're a starch without a ton of chemicals I imagine they'd be ok.
I’m sorry but this looks like a fast track to making someone sick. If it smells bad it probably is bad.This is based on what I have been doing in my current grow; 20 gal ceramic container I have gathered a mix of garden weeds. In the bunch we have confrey, nettle, horsetail, plantain, dandelion, clover, different grasses and other weeds. Lets call this organic matter.
Hypothesis; by taking all the green manure from the area where the cannabis phenos are, I am taking a vast sample of pathogenes, fungi, microbes, yeast... ? later on defoliation I started adding organic matter form the cannabis and the tomatos.
I dump all organic matter and added rain water, I have also added worm castings and molasses to this. Left untouched for several weeks, actually it was running long time before I started using it . The organic matter ferments and decomposes forming a floating layer that creates a barrier reducing the amount of oxygen touching the surface of the body of water.
This is why I call my version of teas Anaerobic. there has to be less the 18-22% oxygen in my mix counting that there is no air pump and I added a 2-4 inch layer of organic matter that sit on top blocking even more the Oxygen molecules. I didnt put a lid on this one.
I had this tea running for at least 4 months, constantly feeding organic matter and rain water. I would use a ratio of 250 ml tea to 5 gal rain water when I watered the plants. As they grew I up to 1 lt tea per 5 gal rain water. For foliar spray 100ml to a liter rain water and neem oil each time. When I used foliar feeding with any tea I would use one spoon neem oil.
I have made every tea from green manure tea, to livestock tea, to compost and seaweed tea, all have this same model. I dont consider my teas Aerobic. I try not to disturb the content, it also helps with avoiding propagation of the heavy smell.
This is a different setup, plastic wrap and lid sealed Anaerobic horsetail/nettle/molasses
Instant reaction when the jar is opened.
Used as foliar all thru Veg cycle. And will possibly continue on flowering.
Another good read,
Compost Tea Recipe
Learn how to make organic fertilizer using a compost tea recipe.www.wildernesscollege.com
watch out for molasses. here in the U.S. all molasses is labeled with the Calif. Prop. 65 heavy metals warning.
vinegar may not be so great as a foliar spray... may need to dilute a lot.
happy growing!
You’re completely bypassing mother natures system. You’ve made your own bottled nutrients. Organically derived perhaps, but not living soil driven. I prefer to let my plants decide what becomes mineralized.No need to be sorry.
I can tell few messages back my approach to anerobic teas is out of your comfort zone and probably for others as well. And I get it, its not for everyone...
Even if you think the smell is going to make anyone sick, I just invite you to follow 6 months of the work done, very well documented with over 200 photos in my current grow, all I have used has been that poddle of water and green manure/organic matter (please read about it, its probably your ticket to save hundreds of dollars in fertilizer). I put my hands in that water, water plants with that, not only cannabis but a whole vegetable garden and I eat the veggies. I dont get sick sorry to say.
The whole point of my experience is not to messure how fetid or bad smells the organic natural fertilizer that can be made spending 0$, rather I am showing my take on an absolute free way to create liquid ready to use by the PLANT fertilizer, made for you by you to suit your growing needs. What ever "bad microbe" or pathogen you think can hurt me, will first pass thru the cannabis plant root system and the foliage. Creating a bio security plan is the only way to NOT GET A HUMAN SICK, plants dont seem to get sick they actually love this.
I feel everyone has strong points and will defend them at all cost. I have only my journal, my notes, and best of all the documented photos of how all my plants have been free of pest and have grown out of proportion just by using this anerobic repulsive looking smells bad its probably bad watering regime...
I am here to create a dialogue based on evidence. Not trying to create an agenda, Im not selling a cult idea or a subcription to a great garden, Im just showing publicly how I have been doing it for the past 5 years, 100% beyond organic.
In the U.S., even organic molasses has the heavy metals warning. Organic agriculture is not immune to the problem of heavy metals building up in soil due to fertilizers. I think molasses for human consumption is usually made from sugar cane, which grows and pulls contaminants out of the soil much as cannabis does.
Are you using the molasses specifically for its sugar content? If so, you could use organic apple juice instead. If you are also using the molasses for it's mineral content, there are better sources for those minerals. Molasses contains calcium, magnesium, potassium, phosphorus, and iron. For these minerals I rely on the following dry organic fertilizers, but they are not solution-grade except the potassium sulfate:
