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[pan4gold49]

Glad you found your camera.
Your garden looks great.
I'm glad I did a journal of Amsterdam it was fuzzy the whole time I was there.

Pan4

 

[Ms.Fox]

Just beautiful flyfishinrock! You go!

 

[flyfishinrock]

Thanks Pan, and Ms. Fox. No real news to report today, except that the grape crush seem to like their new larger pots; I kind of wonder if these were left in the dark a bit befor I received them as they have the sort of leaves I've only seen on plants that are regenerating. Three bladed with little or no visible vains (sort of smooth), and without serrations on the edges.
I am brewing a tea tonight, actually I started it early this afternoon. Its a test run for a flowering tea that will be used on the DSD if it works out on the trial plants. The make-up is as follows:

5gal de-chlorinated tap water
3/4 cup peace of mind Bat Guano 0-5-0
2 TBSP Down to Earth "Acid Mix" 4-3-6 (cottonseed meal,bone meal,fish meal,rock phosphate, langbeinite)
2 TBSP Fox Farm Big Bloom .01-.3-.7
2TBSP unsulphered molasses

I put the solids in a filter suspended in the water with two air pumps agitating the mixture. I also stir on occasion. I am curious as to what the ph is going to be from this concoction, I've never brewed a tea befor so its kinda fun. I am planing on pulling half the liquid out and diluting with equal parts h2o before applying it as a soil drench. Should I add some neptunes fish and seaweed to it befor watering? Also I will check the ec just for a referance # , as I get the impression organics nute readings aren't that accurate anyway.
Oh yeah I almost forgot, when I did the clones I took one of each and an extra of a few of them. I am going to see if a light foliar nuting helps in the flowering process on the duplicates (just to satisfy my curiosity).
Looks like were starting our three months of rain now, then it will be outdoor season in the Great NW.

 

[flightkb]

WTF........Shits outrageous

 

[flyfishinrock]

thanks flightkb.
The PH of the tea turned out to be 6.7, and read .5 ec after I diluted it to 50%, I am not sure if its strong enough but I tried it to see what happens. I may try full strength in a few days if I can keep the tea fresh.

 

[Cherma]

ffr hope the hike was a good one. The soils look good and plants are green, healthy, fatter and bushier. I am glad to hear no ph balance problems thus far. Thanks for the answer on the costs of what you were spending on Hydro. You'll like the Tea's like I do, Sometimes I get a little over zealous and hit them a little to hard, looks like you have taken steps for dilution.

 

[flyfishinrock]

Thank You Cherma, the hike was very relaxing; and just what I needed. As far as the dilution goes, I fear I am being too cautious. The problems I had last grow are still fresh in my mind, and since I haven't actually figured out what the heck happened I am going to be cautious with this grow. I cannot waste another three months. That being said I am considering adding a bit of blood meal to the tea as a nitrogen boost for a veg tea; if I do it'll probably be 1/3 or 1/2 cup to the five gallons I have going already. I watered with some 5-1-1 fish emulsion today, one TBSP/gal, it took ALOT of lemon to ph the solution. I forgot how nasty this stuff is and don't picture myself using it inside again. LMAO I accidentally got some of the concentrate on my hand, and rather than just washing I thought I would smell it first, talk about giving someone the heaves, tellin ya I was thoroughly sickened.
Heres a quick look at em as they're enjoying the fresh nasty nutes. lol

The clones are still nice and green under 12 hours of indirect hps light, in a dome with 100% humidity. I air them out for a minute or so and wipe the perspiration off the inside of the dome daily. I haven't foliar sprayed any of them yet. Still not sure what to use, I was thinking something like FF Big Bloom or the Neptune's Harvest. Course I could use the tea also. Any thoughts on this anyone?

 

[Cherma]

Yeah that fish emusion stays outdoors my wife says. They are looking rather luscious and well uniform and symetrical in structure.

The only thing I mist my new cuttings with is straight H2O occasionally using super Thrive and EJ Rootstock in very limited doses.

 

[flyfishinrock]

I usually don't spray my cuttings at all, except this time I was thinking that since I'm trying to get them to show sex it may help. But i dunno, I'm starting to think it may not be worth it. The plants weren't to sexual maturity when I cloned them so I don't even know if this will work. I tried to find some info around the site but was unable to, I did find a thread elsewhere that was an excerpt from a book that said flowering seeds too early could force asexual tendency's, I never heard of the source before so I don't know if it was reliable; google didn't help much either.
The little veg room is getting real crowded, very soon it will be too crowded. It wasn't designed with this many plants in mind, it was originally made for a small vegging hydro table I have with 4 or 5 plants being ideal. I cant transplant till I know the sex's of the plant's for that reason. Right now I have 15 one gallon pots with maybe an inch between them. I can comfortably accommodate four or maybe five plants for a good veg, those will be the females; the chosen males will flower in some 2 1/2 gallon pots right away for pollen collection. The female clones will be transplanted to soil and then re-vegetated as I will be close to having maxed out my quota for flowering plants. For this reason I may have to only keep one male if the fem ratio is high.

 

[pan4gold49]

Looking good fly.

Nice clones.

Pan4

 

[flyfishinrock]

thanks Pan, that most recent pic is of the DSD from seed, they are a lot more uniform than I expected with the exception of "the crinkler", which by the way whispered to me that she was a he. lol As a matter of fact, as of last night nearly all the plants are showing their sex. Right now it looks like 3 males, 5 females, 2 undecided. Whoo hoo!! Its funny, the crinkler showed under 12/12 the same day (but a few hours after) the ones under 24 hours of light. Go figure. The clones aren't showing sex or roots yet, I will continue with them just to see if it'll work; I.E. if they hermie or show a sexual reversal from the donor plants because I went 12/12 so early in their lives.
Also the stanky fish emulsion seemed to have worked, they grew an inch or two yesterday.

 

[flyfishinrock]

Yesterday I watered the flowering test plants with some stronger tea, full strength actually, I also watered the "confirmed" males with it to make sure the strain can handle the mix. So far so good, I think next time I will add some oyster shell into the soil mix as a form of organic calcium. Also the blood meal I have says the nitrogen is non-water soluble, so I didn't add any to the tea after all. I think that's weird though, it seems to me that blood would break down rather easily in water.

 

[flyfishinrock]

I transplanted and moved #1 to the flowering tent today, as it has popped out some white hairs. The three suspected males in the flower room are definitely males starting to produce small bundles of male flowers. I haven't decided which one to keep yet as they all look close to identical; one in particular seems to be getting more clusters than the rest; I will make my decision soon and cull the other two out. I think two possibly three more are showing male pre-flowers now, though I will wait a bit to make sure; the other two I am still not sure about yet. The vertical growth is really starting to scare me, they look like they are going to grow very tall before its all said and done. Pics probably tomorrow.

 

[Dirt Farmer]

Awesome looking grow man.. I'm planning the exact opposite I've never tried hydro so currently getting stuff together for that.

Your babys look sweet for sure... the others should do fine going straight to 12/12, I had a place with less than 3' one time and went straight into flower with fresh clones and it was fine, though a little sluggish the first 5-7 days....Lookin forward to the bud porn!

 

[flyfishinrock]

Thanks Dirt Farmer, wanna buy some hydro tables? lol
Sorry no pics yet, havent had the time to spare lately. I took some today and will post tonight.
#1 is in flower-female
#4 is in flower- the chosen male
#6 is in flower-female
#7,#9,#10 have all been culled out
#2,#3,#8 are all still in veg

I chose #4 as my male because it has a good growth pattern, lots of sacs (the most) and by rubbing the stalk and smelling, as it was a lot more pungent than the other two. All three smelled vastly different, so it was hard not to keep them all. One was really spicy, kind of like nut-meg; the other had a band-aide smell; and #4 was somewhere in the middle but with a very sweet "after smell", I cant explain it any better than that as it really lingered in my nose (also it was kind of addicting as I couldn't stop smelling it). I know the stalk method isn't a proven scientific method so it was the last deciding factor that I considered. Any other males will be discarded as slow bloomers.

The clones aren't showing sex still........but many are rooting; I have been culling those along with the culled donor plants.
The average height is 22" with only an inch +/- difference between them all, very uniform in height. Some are very heavily branched, others have a more sparse lateral branching. I expected that as the breeder mentioned 2 dominant phenotypes, and occasionally one somewhere in the middle. All of them from a short distance smell like tomato plants on steroid's and have since they were a week or two old, I hope they stink more and more, lol.

So far a very easy plant to grow and to clone; they are letting me enjoy growing again as the last ones were murder to me. Afte I see which females are in my opinion the best I intend on taking too many clones so I can donate some mother plants to the clinic that supplied me with the SSHaze and Grape Ape clones when I first got my card, as a kind of thank you gesture; remember "if you give a man an eighth he can be medicated for a day, give a man some killer genetics and he can be medicated for years." Isnt that in the bible somewhere? well....it should be. lol

Pics this evening

 

[Cherma]

I will add some oyster shell into the soil mix as a form of organic calcium

Good stuff ffr, is this the powdered version? I use to go up and down the Oregon Coast and pick tons of Kelp and get Oyster shells from the massive schukers. The pulverizing them into a fine powder or as close to it as I could.

It is great that you can give back to the place wher you received clones from. That is a great program.

Feed a man fish tonight and he can eat today. Teach a man to fish and he can eat for life. Good vibes here

 

[flyfishinrock]

It is great that you can give back to the place where you received clones from. That is a great program.
Feed a man fish tonight and he can eat today. Teach a man to fish and he can eat for life. Good vibes here

Thanks Cherma; I guess I'm trying to put a lil bit into the old karma bank. lol I never could have gotten good genetics quickly if it weren't for them, as many around here (the people I new anyway) where not willing to share. Guess I'm always broke for a reason, lmao. I was thinking powdered shells, I believe down to earth was the one I was looking at. Now that you mention it I imagine finding some shells and giving them a good washing and a hammering would be fun.

heres some pics from today and yesterday.
The Male #4, I will call him Bono.

This is number one, its been the quickest from the get-go, its one of the "branchier" ones. Her name Lita.

The bottom middle plant is #6, her growth is more vertical at this point. She looks like a home wrecker so she will be called Jolene.

Also I put the Topp 44 into flower and lst'd it, nothing too crazy though.

The Chocolate Chunk also was put into flower today, but I forgot to snap a pic. I'll clean up the lower branches for clones in a week or so. Found some thripe larvae today when watering, time to declare war!!

 

[flyfishinrock]

To combat the thripes I discovered last night I used an organic food grade insecticidal soap on the top of the soil today, its called FLOWER PHARM. It consists of: 3% cottonseed oil, .1% cinnamon oil, .1% rosemary oil. I will repeat in a few days, if this doesn't take care of them I will use either predator nematodes or some GoGnats, which is also organic. I haven't seen any adults at all, or noticeable damage to the leaves so right now I am concentrating on the pupa.

 

[flyfishinrock]

Having a tough time sleeping tonight, so I went ahead and repotted the remaining DSD in veg to two gallon pots for the time being. I get the impression they are all males, but nothing absolutly for sure yet. They were getting bound though and sucking the 1 gal pots dry daily so it was time. One of them has a terrific growth pattern and male or not will probably be saved and flowered.
I also transplanted four (two LITA's and two JOLENE's) out of the first batch of clones from the DSD's in flower as they were rooted nicely, usually I wait a bit longer and they get yellow but this time they are a nice green. I put them into one gallon pots and plan on doing some training, perhaps topping one of each and LSTing the other. I used to top the hell out of my sativas so their would be 4 to ten tops above a 1 foot tall main stem, I may do that this time, we'll see though. I love the way sativas flop over from the cola weight, and when you top the heck outta them it sort of looks like an octopus, too cool. lol

 

[flyfishinrock]

Yesturday I made a chamber to finish flowering the male in as I am getting worried it may open any day now. I used one inch pvc pipe and some elbows and three ways to construct it, with a bed sheet for a cover. I dont intend on having it in a bright spot so I think the sheet will suffice. Its footprint is 18"x18" and 4' tall, cost about 5 bucks. The male is very impressive to me, my best looking stud to date actually. Ron Jeremy look out!! lol
The plants are doing well, all the DSD clones are rooted, the gifted clones are growing well and the plants in flower looked alright yesterday; though I think they received a bit of transplant shock. Lita is producing alot of bud sites and they dont appear to be stretching too far apart so I'm pleased with her. The lights are coming on so I gotta go check em out, and snap some pics.