So I really screwed up. First off I probably waited too long. 23 days. Second of all the stems appear almost too long. I wonder if I didn't have enough light on them and they were stretching. I am using a spider farmer sf2000 and was running at 40 percent or about 80 watts at 22 inches above the tops. Went to try LST. One of the stems almost snapped clean in half. There isn't much holding the poor thing together. She was the runt and then did so well. What a cluster F. One turned out ok I guess. Really frustrated. But I guess this is part of learning. It is my first grow and trying all organic. Before and after pics. The red pipe cleaner one turned out ok. The orange is the one I screwed up bad on. I have one pic that shows the the height of my stems. Very long and narrow. Any input would be great.