djdmaze
420 Member
Hello everyone at 420, new member here, proud to be apart of the community. I follow many threads here, but finally decided to register after starting my latest grow. We (my spouse and I) have some previous grows under our belt via soil and coco, even some I did by myself some years back. As of March, 14, 2020, we've started our first DWC grow using the Giixer 1000w LED. Previous grows always used MH/HPS 600 watt and expectations were met other than the pricey electric bill from being on 18hours/day. However, I decided to try LED in efforts to save a bit on the bill. Our current grow is a stealth grow in a Mylar covered armoire (4x2x6) with 2 plants in a 27gal tote, via Top Feed DWC. I'd say height is 5 feet with light added in armoire.
Now we that we got the basics out of the way...my problem is with this damn grow light. I was under the impression that I was getting 1000 watts out of the light only to measure the actual power draw of 118 watts. After thoroughly researching LED lights and power draw, I have determined that 118 watts is not going to get me the desired yield. My theory is that this light will not fatten up the buds as much as HPS or a LEC due to low wattage and the gram/watt measurment. Am I correct on this? With this light I should expect airy or not so dense buds right? Or can I offset the low wattage with a longer veg time? Can my canopy and veg time offset the gram/watt measurement? Then again, I don't want to veg for 3-6 months for an 4-8-ounce plant. So in a way, I'd rather just take the $80 loss (should've known something was wrong with that cheap ass price) and invest in a higher powered LED. I have some 600 watt HPS/MH's in the back cabinet that I'm eager to throw in the armoire grow and discard/return that darn Giixer for false advertising.
Very misleading description on Amazon. Says replaces 600 watt MH/HPS, hence, why I bought it because I know what to expect from a 600 watt HPS/MH. Only to find out this thing has NO WHERE NEAR the power and light output my 600 watt MH/HPS's put out. So @Giixer my question to you is what the hell are you referring to when you say "replaces/comparable with 600 watt MH/HPS" because it is very misleading and until you fix that description I will be informing people and redirecting them from your products. Maybe they meant in terms of brightness its comparable but IT IS DEFINITELY NOT in terms of the wattage/energy my plants will receive. You will also be receiving a bad review from me but partly it is my fault for not doing the proper research. However, that one statement is what made me click the "buy" button.
The only thing I am concerned about is the heat and amount of power the 600 watt mh/hps has for 2 plants in that small armoire. Essentially, it seems overkill and I think is too small of a space, will generate too much heat and burn my plants. So technically, I'm thinking LED still for coolness and maybe a bit of efficiency? I was thinking of upgrading to KingLED 2000w with actual draw of 392 watts! Now according to the gram/watt measurement, with this light, even if I am a little under 1gram/watt it should still be a decent harvest while not outputting as much light/heat/energy as 600 or even 400 watt mh/hps but maybe right around the same performance as the 400. Even then, don't LED's usually get a little over 1g/watt anyway? I know those 315w LECs are great with 1.5+ gram/watt. I've seen multiple people pull a pound off one of those lights with minimal plant training/effort.
Also why the hell are all of the chinese manufacturer title names (1000w, 2000w, 3000w)? Just take away the "w". It's so misleading when 1000w, 2000w, 3000w have nothing to do with the product. It's literally just apart of the product name. [1000w=118-185 True watts] [2000w=392 True watts] and 3000w=615 True watts (which SHOULD be just as powerful as the 600Watt MH/HPS bulbs in our back cabinet). BUT here is a spider farm LED that is putting out less watts than my Giixer! But is supposedly much more powerful. I just don't know anymore, I'm looking for true watts from the wall now. No more of this 1000w, 2000w product label crap. LED BUYERS BEWARE! This LED thing is super confusing and it seems like a whole another ball game apart from growing.
Even though I am about to part with this light, I've followed a few threads from other members using the Giixer. It doesn't look good, most of the journals seem pretty current, but unfinished. @captainhowdy @GHempster, can you provide any output on yield/quality of Giixer 1000w? @SomeFire had a decent journal up until flowering with the Giixer1000w. If you could provide us with the final experience on this light, we would greatly appreciate it. His buds looked pretty good but the VEG was long I think, and maybe looked like a 4oz'er plant.
So I guess what I need is some advice from some experienced growers. Will this 2000w King be enough to get at least 10+ ounces out of my small area for 2 plants.
Now we that we got the basics out of the way...my problem is with this damn grow light. I was under the impression that I was getting 1000 watts out of the light only to measure the actual power draw of 118 watts. After thoroughly researching LED lights and power draw, I have determined that 118 watts is not going to get me the desired yield. My theory is that this light will not fatten up the buds as much as HPS or a LEC due to low wattage and the gram/watt measurment. Am I correct on this? With this light I should expect airy or not so dense buds right? Or can I offset the low wattage with a longer veg time? Can my canopy and veg time offset the gram/watt measurement? Then again, I don't want to veg for 3-6 months for an 4-8-ounce plant. So in a way, I'd rather just take the $80 loss (should've known something was wrong with that cheap ass price) and invest in a higher powered LED. I have some 600 watt HPS/MH's in the back cabinet that I'm eager to throw in the armoire grow and discard/return that darn Giixer for false advertising.
Very misleading description on Amazon. Says replaces 600 watt MH/HPS, hence, why I bought it because I know what to expect from a 600 watt HPS/MH. Only to find out this thing has NO WHERE NEAR the power and light output my 600 watt MH/HPS's put out. So @Giixer my question to you is what the hell are you referring to when you say "replaces/comparable with 600 watt MH/HPS" because it is very misleading and until you fix that description I will be informing people and redirecting them from your products. Maybe they meant in terms of brightness its comparable but IT IS DEFINITELY NOT in terms of the wattage/energy my plants will receive. You will also be receiving a bad review from me but partly it is my fault for not doing the proper research. However, that one statement is what made me click the "buy" button.
The only thing I am concerned about is the heat and amount of power the 600 watt mh/hps has for 2 plants in that small armoire. Essentially, it seems overkill and I think is too small of a space, will generate too much heat and burn my plants. So technically, I'm thinking LED still for coolness and maybe a bit of efficiency? I was thinking of upgrading to KingLED 2000w with actual draw of 392 watts! Now according to the gram/watt measurement, with this light, even if I am a little under 1gram/watt it should still be a decent harvest while not outputting as much light/heat/energy as 600 or even 400 watt mh/hps but maybe right around the same performance as the 400. Even then, don't LED's usually get a little over 1g/watt anyway? I know those 315w LECs are great with 1.5+ gram/watt. I've seen multiple people pull a pound off one of those lights with minimal plant training/effort.
Also why the hell are all of the chinese manufacturer title names (1000w, 2000w, 3000w)? Just take away the "w". It's so misleading when 1000w, 2000w, 3000w have nothing to do with the product. It's literally just apart of the product name. [1000w=118-185 True watts] [2000w=392 True watts] and 3000w=615 True watts (which SHOULD be just as powerful as the 600Watt MH/HPS bulbs in our back cabinet). BUT here is a spider farm LED that is putting out less watts than my Giixer! But is supposedly much more powerful. I just don't know anymore, I'm looking for true watts from the wall now. No more of this 1000w, 2000w product label crap. LED BUYERS BEWARE! This LED thing is super confusing and it seems like a whole another ball game apart from growing.
Even though I am about to part with this light, I've followed a few threads from other members using the Giixer. It doesn't look good, most of the journals seem pretty current, but unfinished. @captainhowdy @GHempster, can you provide any output on yield/quality of Giixer 1000w? @SomeFire had a decent journal up until flowering with the Giixer1000w. If you could provide us with the final experience on this light, we would greatly appreciate it. His buds looked pretty good but the VEG was long I think, and maybe looked like a 4oz'er plant.
So I guess what I need is some advice from some experienced growers. Will this 2000w King be enough to get at least 10+ ounces out of my small area for 2 plants.
