007's Stealth Box - Soil - Mini LST/SCROG - CFL

Coming along nice, 007! :popcorn:
 
Not sure if that will fully work bro. It will probably work but you need to lst the he'll out of it. And keep it super short. How tall is the box??
 
my plan is to;in a week and a half, move the biggest 2 out of the bunch into a different cab in in my garage to keep vegging and use HPS to flower when the time comes, and leave 4 in the tub to flower small and fast. I want to flip the switch on the 4 in the tub once they are about 2 weeks old....

I still have no idea at what im doing when it comes to this so all advice is welcome!
:tokin:
 
I had to run to seattle for a night and while I was gone I had my mom water my plants.haha...weird but cool.
Heres the oldest gal, shes doing great, im going to move her and one other girl out into the other grow cab. in a few days.

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yesterday was a busy day with the girls, I flipped the switch 12/12 on 4 girls in the tub, for lighting I have 2, T12 flours (3000k,and one that said it was good for plant growth) and 5 CFLS (3-2700kish, 2-6500kish).
Heres a shitty picture of the CFLs...
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how long should I was to start LST on these 4 in the tub? (the pics are about to start sucking because the camera on my phone does not like these flouros:(
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Here are the 2 chosen ones that I moved out into a dresser/cabinet in my garage that Im going to veg for another 2+ weeks.
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What up Double Zero! Had to check out your grows! Cool tub work. Between you and Madmardo's work I am thinking about making a flowering chamber out of some tubs now for my current project ! :high-five: I just figured out what rep is ( ithink ) so i am going to give some to you and Mad for tubbing...Umm, but again, if they don't show up right away, dont blame me, I'm still a newb round here!

I'll Check back in with you later to a link to an awesome LST chart you might be interested in. Or actually....I just saw the same chart i'm using at one of Mad's journal's as well...(i think it was his, sorry if it isnt...i will link later for sure)
 
KoalaSmoke said:
What up Double Zero! Had to check out your grows! Cool tub work. Between you and Madmardo's work I am thinking about making a flowering chamber out of some tubs now for my current project ! :high-five: I just figured out what rep is ( ithink ) so i am going to give some to you and Mad for tubbing...Umm, but again, if they don't show up right away, dont blame me, I'm still a newb round here!

I'll Check back in with you later to a link to an awesome LST chart you might be interested in. Or actually....I just saw the same chart i'm using at one of Mad's journal's as well...(i think it was his, sorry if it isnt...i will link later for sure)
Click to expand...

hey man, thanks for the rep, I got it, but hoesntly I have no idea what it is.haha.

as far as tubs go, you should for sure make a flowering chamber out of some! you can never have to many tub grows as far a I'm concerned!
 
went out and checked on the 2 girls in the cab outside and one more so than the other has these little spots on the leaves...It could be that my ph is a little high, but that is the only thing I can think of?

you can see on the tip it has some weird colored stains and a little wilting?...any ideas on how to perk her back up?
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Hey Double....Looks like you getting some action now! I had some rust looking spots too on my girls. I havent posted pic's yet, But I was thinking it was some sort of reaction to the nutes/lights, as I added nutes to their diet and added two more 26w 6500k lights...I've been considering cutting off the oldest leaf on each plant, since thats the only leaf that seems affected by the rusty shit and isnt naturally gravitating towards the light. Let me know how your plant responds to the trimming of the stained leaves...I don't know anything about pruning =).
Oh, here's the chart I was telling you about last time. THis is a very helpful lst chart, if you havent already seen it. I got this from a guy named Dahcwon's journal...
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Sorry.....Forgot to include the description... =P Little medicated over here.... I'm cutting/pasting the info.....and also including the original post at bottom....

"LST (Low Stress Training) the ultimate way to maximize your yield.

Before we begin lets get some knowledge on what you will be looking at.

Light Brown : Pot Outline
Green thick Lines : Main Stem
Small Thin Lines with Green Balls on top : Fan leafs
Yellow Lines : Side Branches
Red : Tiedown Metal Hooks (or thread whichever item you use, i use Hooks its easier)

The Text in the box : First digit is Step No. and Second Digit is Pot Size, below the numbers is the type of view your looking at (either from the SIDE or from the TOP)


Now that thats out of the way lets get it on..

Please note, you dont have to do it this way, its just the idea of how to do LST, this is the way i did it and you can see the end result of 4 weeks of growth this way in my signature picture where it says FIM/LST. Some may opt to use the eggcrate method where you utilize an eggcrate around the pot and tie it down to that with zipties instead of using string or hooks running from the pot itself... this way you can cover more square footage and maximize your yield even more.

STEP 1 : Grow your plant from Seed or Clone to 3 or 4 leaf sets, some use 5 but i always use 3 because after 3rd leaf set the main stem starts to harden and it will be harder to bend over your plant properly without breaking the main stem.

STEP 2 : Using a metal hook (i cut small sections of cloths hanger and bend a U shape at the end as a hook) bend over your plant with metal hook at the last internode (space between the last set of fanleafs and the next to last) and stick the metal hook into your dirt to hold down the stem.

STEP 3 : This is really not a step, just waiting time... Take note of how the top of the plant that was bent down will bend back upwards towards the light, this could take anywhere from 3 hours to 1 day. Under my 1000 Watt Metal Halide light it does it in under 3 hours.

STEP 4 : Veg and dont tie down until you have a new leaf set. You will notice Side branching has started already because good light is getting to the main stem areas next to each fanleaf stem intersection with the main stem.

STEP 5 : Depending on your starting pot size you may have to transplant. If you started out with a large pot, repeat step 2 over and over again holding the main stem down with hooks until you reach the end of the pot. In this illustration to save time and drawings, i started out with a small pot and it reached the end of the pot after the first tiedown. I repotted it into a 10 inch pot which will be my final pot size for this plant in order for me to continue the LST Bends around the inside edge of the pot.

STEP 6 : Now that your new leaf set has formed you have enough length in growth since the first bend(s) to allow you to start bending the stem horizontally around the inside edge of the pot. Use metal hooks again to keep this bend in place. Side branches should be coming along very nicely.

STEP 7 : Continue repeating steps 4 and 6, allowing the plant to grow and then keep tieing it down along the inside edge of pot using metal hooks (or whatever your using) Side branches should be forming and growing up towards the light.

STEP 8 : Continue to repeat step 7 until you are all the way around the pot... when you reach the point where your plant first met the edge of the plant Top the plant (cut off the very top of the plant ) and hold it down horizontally with a metal hook.... During all this time of repeating step 7 you should also be tieing down horizontally the new branches that have formed from the main stem as much as possible until you use up as much space as possible inside the pot as well , the outter branches growing over the outside edge of the pot you can hold down as well with string to keep those tops even with the inner branches.

STEP 9 : After you have used up all possible space inside the pot (or your eggcrate) its time to just let it flower.. This is a side view of how it will and should look by that time with all the side branches growing upwards towards the light.... these will all become Collas unlike a non LST plant will only have one colla.

During flowering and even before due to lack of light on the main stem fan leafs which is all the way to the bottom almost against the soil those fanleafs will die off anyways, i usually cut these off the main stem right after the branch has grown out in that area, keeps things neat down below where you will need good airflow during flowering.. so go ahead and take off any fanleafs coming off the main stem that is going around the inside edge of the pot.

Set your timer to 12/12 and watch it bloom

There is no Step 10 in the picture but we all know what that is HARVEST!!!"


Here is Original Post...it is approximately 3/4 down, just look for the chart =)
Sour-Bubba OG Growing under some CFL's:
 
KoalaSmoke said:
Sorry.....Forgot to include the description... =P Little medicated over here.... I'm cutting/pasting the info.....and also including the original post at bottom....

"LST (Low Stress Training) the ultimate way to maximize your yield.

Before we begin lets get some knowledge on what you will be looking at.

Light Brown : Pot Outline
Green thick Lines : Main Stem
Small Thin Lines with Green Balls on top : Fan leafs
Yellow Lines : Side Branches
Red : Tiedown Metal Hooks (or thread whichever item you use, i use Hooks its easier)

The Text in the box : First digit is Step No. and Second Digit is Pot Size, below the numbers is the type of view your looking at (either from the SIDE or from the TOP)


Now that thats out of the way lets get it on..

Please note, you dont have to do it this way, its just the idea of how to do LST, this is the way i did it and you can see the end result of 4 weeks of growth this way in my signature picture where it says FIM/LST. Some may opt to use the eggcrate method where you utilize an eggcrate around the pot and tie it down to that with zipties instead of using string or hooks running from the pot itself... this way you can cover more square footage and maximize your yield even more.

STEP 1 : Grow your plant from Seed or Clone to 3 or 4 leaf sets, some use 5 but i always use 3 because after 3rd leaf set the main stem starts to harden and it will be harder to bend over your plant properly without breaking the main stem.

STEP 2 : Using a metal hook (i cut small sections of cloths hanger and bend a U shape at the end as a hook) bend over your plant with metal hook at the last internode (space between the last set of fanleafs and the next to last) and stick the metal hook into your dirt to hold down the stem.

STEP 3 : This is really not a step, just waiting time... Take note of how the top of the plant that was bent down will bend back upwards towards the light, this could take anywhere from 3 hours to 1 day. Under my 1000 Watt Metal Halide light it does it in under 3 hours.

STEP 4 : Veg and dont tie down until you have a new leaf set. You will notice Side branching has started already because good light is getting to the main stem areas next to each fanleaf stem intersection with the main stem.

STEP 5 : Depending on your starting pot size you may have to transplant. If you started out with a large pot, repeat step 2 over and over again holding the main stem down with hooks until you reach the end of the pot. In this illustration to save time and drawings, i started out with a small pot and it reached the end of the pot after the first tiedown. I repotted it into a 10 inch pot which will be my final pot size for this plant in order for me to continue the LST Bends around the inside edge of the pot.

STEP 6 : Now that your new leaf set has formed you have enough length in growth since the first bend(s) to allow you to start bending the stem horizontally around the inside edge of the pot. Use metal hooks again to keep this bend in place. Side branches should be coming along very nicely.

STEP 7 : Continue repeating steps 4 and 6, allowing the plant to grow and then keep tieing it down along the inside edge of pot using metal hooks (or whatever your using) Side branches should be forming and growing up towards the light.

STEP 8 : Continue to repeat step 7 until you are all the way around the pot... when you reach the point where your plant first met the edge of the plant Top the plant (cut off the very top of the plant ) and hold it down horizontally with a metal hook.... During all this time of repeating step 7 you should also be tieing down horizontally the new branches that have formed from the main stem as much as possible until you use up as much space as possible inside the pot as well , the outter branches growing over the outside edge of the pot you can hold down as well with string to keep those tops even with the inner branches.

STEP 9 : After you have used up all possible space inside the pot (or your eggcrate) its time to just let it flower.. This is a side view of how it will and should look by that time with all the side branches growing upwards towards the light.... these will all become Collas unlike a non LST plant will only have one colla.

During flowering and even before due to lack of light on the main stem fan leafs which is all the way to the bottom almost against the soil those fanleafs will die off anyways, i usually cut these off the main stem right after the branch has grown out in that area, keeps things neat down below where you will need good airflow during flowering.. so go ahead and take off any fanleafs coming off the main stem that is going around the inside edge of the pot.

Set your timer to 12/12 and watch it bloom

There is no Step 10 in the picture but we all know what that is HARVEST!!!"


Here is Original Post...it is approximately 3/4 down, just look for the chart =)
Sour-Bubba OG Growing under some CFL's:
Click to expand...

Thanks for all that info. you convinced me to use a hook to hold them down.

I dont have a picture right now but since I trimmed those leaves and fed her last night she is starting to turn around. no sign of spots and her color is looking good, so my noob advise would be to just cut them off.
 

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