First (Closet) Grow, GDP Hermie Seeds!

[Kalas]

Thanks Herb
Not enough room to sit in there with them comfortably, but if I'm not tending to them I'm always hovering over them proclaiming my un-worthiness
As far as music they've grown up on everything from Miles to Sabbath played at extremely loud volume... plus I'm always playing bass for them so the low frequencies can stimulate root health & nutrient uptake x-(

 

[Kalas]

If you really regulate your water and low temps, they will perk up a bit and then they hit the next boom

What do you mean Boss? I'm so high right now I'm interpreting that a bunch of different ways

 

[Kalas]

Written by Soma:

"Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can't treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization" after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas". A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them "Emergency Devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that's already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you're one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics."

 

[Herb Fellow]

Excellent post, Kalas! Got to share some love around before I can give you more reps. Glad to hear that your plants are getting to hear a wide variety of music.

 

[Boss]

+rep

Looks like they are getting a bit too much water, and at this stage (at least with mine) it slows growth up a lot. I noticed because we are not the only 2 with folding leaves and droops I have no doubt that you got it under control though.

 

[berrydizzle]

Yep, i think you might be over watering too. I almost let my plants start drooping before I water them.

 

[Kalas]

A couple days ago I was getting ready to water them and I ended up power-napping instead from an intense wake n' bake session. Before I dozed off, I opened up my window for some fresh air.

When I got up to water them after 2 hours sleep, I thought my smallest one had died. Standing above it, I could see straight through to the floor, almost every leaf was wilted over & pointing straight down. I had been following my reg watering schedule, letting the top 2+ inches get bone dry, when you lift the pot it feels like there's nothing in there. I think it might have been the room's drop in humidity from the open window that made the medium dry out much quicker than I had anticipated.

I scrambled in horror & disbelief to saturate my baby's roots with precious life-giving h20... and slowly but surely over the next couple hours the leaves started to rise to full health again, but never really straight or upward. It's been a really long time since any of the leaves pointed at an upward angle, I used to think it was just because the plants are super-extremely rootbound or the low humidity... It can get really, really dry out here in Central California. Not to mention the inline fan doesn't give the closet a chance of accumulating any type of moisture.

Update pics soon, the camera's owner left the usb cable at a friend's house last weekend.

10 more to go until day 56!!

 

[Be Irie]

Damn Kalas, you have one beautiful garden going on there... I cant wait to see your final product.... Straight up beauties....

 

[berrydizzle]

Cant wait to see em Kalas, and about the droopage, they always bounce back strong. And fat joe, that is true about the leafs pointing upward towards the end, and it does mean they are fully hydrated.

 

[Kalas]

2 things guys,I have forgotten plenty over the years,but on thing I do know and you can take this to the herb bank,hermies only give female seeds if it seeds only itself,and they can be weak bitches that can also herm,but you always get more females then just seeding your girls naturally,done,and now I have forgotten point 2,I'll burn a bowl and be right back to ya,damn I love this site

Are you saying a "herm" can produce an all-male seed if it pollenates any other female besides itself?

 

[berrydizzle]

I dont think thats what he was trying to say, but i dont know!

 

[berrydizzle]

For sure, i hear ya now.

 

[Kalas]

Oh ok gotchya.

The girls are days away and the topped one's leaves are really purple by now. I'm ready to just go buy a new GD usb cable because I don't think that other one is coming back any time soon.

 

[berrydizzle]

True...I hope you can make it all work out for you!

 

[Kalas]

Ahoy!
This image is from last Tues 04/01

When she was cut down last Sat 04/05

Only plant still alive right now, pic from 04/01

Cut this one down last night, pic from 04/01

Same plant, image taken last night before the axe.

The good thing about the next round is I'll be working with serious genetics for once. All of these plants are similar to each other yet different to varying degrees. They're pretty close, although none are 100% fully representative of some of that killer granddaddy that can be had out here. That shit will make you say when you see and smoke it

Improvements to be made:
Now always flushing in between nute changes
I overshot the final flush/leeching by about a week and a half
Heat stress was a borderline problem this entire grow, will be corrected by aid of a/c next time
Will apply ferts and nutrients in smaller amounts first, then lead up to full strength if the plants say it's ok

The last plant is coming down either tonight or tomorrow, I'll post pics of that shortly.

 

[Kalas]

Thanks!
Will do.

 

[mistakeith1]

Your ladies successfully made me produce mouthwatering lust...

beautiful buds Kalas!

 

[Be Irie]

Kick ass job there Kalas... Those are some true beauties... I am going to have to get a hold of some purple seeds and givee them a go... Great grow....

 

[Boss]

Those are some of the most beautiful buds! I STRONGLY suggest those see the NUG and Plant of the month contest.

I think in the end, it worked out pretty damn good

 

[fillabong420]

wow. they came out fantasticaly great job man