GreenThunder Dips Into Hydro

[GreenThunder]

Nice job my friend

Told ya not to kill her

This one has tested my patience and perseverance though it's been my own mistakes that made it so. I've learned a lot and feel fairly confident continuing with hydro.

The clone's roots are coming along nicely and still white!

 

[GreenThunder]

I'm thankful for this clone.... she's 31 days old and was cut when the mother was 15 days into 12/12. That's later than I'd normally take a clone but she’s really given me the confidence to continue with hydro. I think she's reentered veg state with weird 1 and 3 finger leaves but I've seen these on clones before so I'm not concerned

I thought I'd list some of my errors, to have them in one place:

• put her in the hydroton too soon (as soon as she had a tap root
• used a netpot that’s too big (8")
• didn’t top feed, starving and dehydrating her while she struggled to throw out roots.
• didn’t address issues in a timely manner (things happen quickly in hydro!)
• wasn’t prepared for dealing with high water temps and didn’t know (or research) how to handle it
• not enough air (a commercial grade air pump is essential)

All of this info is here but I couldn’t really grasp it until I experienced it. Thank you all for your help and encouragement!!

 

[InTheShed]

A most excellent results GT! Stick with Chris, he knows when to hold 'em, knows when to fold 'em.

Looks like that florakleen is good shit!

 

[Bowl Nugz n' harmony]

Nice little write up. You'll be surprised by how much more "on top of your game" you will be the 2nd go around.

 

[GreenThunder]

Second round of roots looks good, though a bit of browning at the tops. I gave them a spray of peroxide

The topside.... a little better, maybe, but still struggling. I'll trim a little and see if that helps.

I've got a 10 day old seedling and potentially a clone from some cuttings I gave a friend. So she's got another 10 days to show what she can do.... otherwise I'm moving on to something that will grow and produce. I've learned an awful lot from her so she has given much value already, I really just don't see her producing much more than experience

 

[InTheShed]

Not sure about DWC but clawing is usually a sign of too much nitrogen. Wouldn't explain the yellowing though as they would be dark green. Chris would know .

 

[GreenThunder]

Well it's time to call it on the Guinea pig. She has shed another branch of roots...

Maybe the peroxide spray wasn't a great idea or maybe there's just too much gunk in the net pot to grow good roots. I did run all res changes through the hydroton, thinking that would help flush it out. Or maybe overcoming early malnourishment was too much to bear. Either way, it's time to focus on the healthy.

Grape Ape monster clone, 36 days

She's just starting to get leaves with more than 1 finger and is my first healthy hydro. Any guesses on what's the soonest I could reasonably flip her?

 

[InTheShed]

I'd train her out first and get her into a shape you want for flower before you consider flipping. Sorry to hear about the Guinea Pig.

 

[GreenThunder]

Would I be able to do a quadline on her? I'd love to learn to do that

 

[InTheShed]

It looks pretty busy in there to do a quadline unless you don't mind basically starting the plant's growth from scratch. I've only doing my first now but it involves topping around the 5th node, keeping nodes 3 and 4, and stripping everything below that. Then you tie out the four branches to make an X. Those are the first stages. Then you keep the outside growth below the level of the 3rd node to allow the inside growth to get higher, and once they take off you let the outside growth grow up.

Hard to tell if yours will stand up to that shaping and pruning because it's so bushy!

 

[GreenThunder]

It looks pretty busy in there to do a quadline unless you don't mind basically starting the plant's growth from scratch. I've only doing my first now but it involves topping around the 5th node, keeping nodes 3 and 4, and stripping everything below that. Then you tie out the four branches to make an X. Those are the first stages. Then you keep the outside growth below the level of the 3rd node to allow the inside growth to get higher, and once they take off you let the outside growth grow up.

Hard to tell if yours will stand up to that shaping and pruning because it's so bushy!

Maybe I'll save that for one grown from a seed

 

[InTheShed]

Maybe I'll save that for one grown from a seed

Oh, if this is a clone then it's much harder to get 4 opposing branches! From see is much easier for a first attempt .

 

[GreenThunder]

Pruned and lst'd the clone tonight. In the beginning I was nervous about this and sneaked behind hubby's back or dropped lights on them to tentatively experience the methods. @InTheShed you've been a great help and inspiration for me; I've learned a lot, not only from your direct assistance but also watching what you do by how you document it so well. I had these thoughts as I worked with her tonight

Before

What was removed

After

I must say, I enjoy this a lot more than troubleshooting a lost cause.

 

[InTheShed]

Nice work! Glad I could help . Are you thinking wide or tall before flipping?

 

[GreenThunder]

Nice work! Glad I could help . Are you thinking wide or tall before flipping?

I'd prefer wide over tall.... is she ready to top, you think? wwsd (what would shed do)

 

[InTheShed]

I'd prefer wide over tall.... is she ready to top, you think? wwsd (what would shed do)

LOL! I'd probably top it assuming that branch bent at a right angle in the bottom pic is the main trunk. I'd take it just below the bend. There's a lot of side branching there you can spread to let all that inner growth head for the lights.

 

[GreenThunder]

Chopped off her top...

And since it has a stem, why not try to root it...

I've got plenty going on so no need for sadness if it doesn't work


I bent her up a bit more. The one I thought was too much actually proved to be just right

And a peek at her roots

 

[InTheShed]

Looking nice and open. And I'm sure that will root for you as sure as I am it wouldn't for me .

 

[GreenThunder]

I used only honey this time, minimizing my minimalistic method. So far, she's still upright

 

[InTheShed]

So far, she's still upright

I can say the same thing about my nearly dead ones!