PE636
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Another thing to remember is that a customer can easily clone the crap out of his seed crop and not have to buy another seed again for a very long time. I'm sure that figures into a seed sellers pricing.
Math on seeds
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It’s not really any different from any other consumer product. Clothing, toys, cellphones, Nike shoes. All that stuff is dirt cheap to produce. It’s worth what it’s perceived to be worth- what the market will pay. Seeds are still my lowest growing expense and one of the most fun and gratifying.
PE636
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My point exactly. You're all expenses! Just busting your balls though friend, I'd rather pay less too but I seriously doubt anyone is making anywhere near 30k per plant.
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Bob Loblaw
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Capitalism is a factory produced beer that thinks it should be paid like fine champagne. That's why in order to avoid the veins in my skull bursting (and to keep myself from being more disgusted with mankind than I am now), I don't ask people what their profit margin is. They'd lie anyway.
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Bob Loblaw
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On this I agree somewhat, I too would like to think that those profit levels I suggested are wrong, just looking for some confirmation on that.
I’d still rather pay for a $10 seed in a fancy shiny package from some ‘trusted’ business that seems to be really real, than 50 seeds in a ziplock bag for $9, from ‘Bob’.
The Celt
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In all reality @Bob Loblaw, cannabis in general is a very very lucrative business. When you consider that I grow and if I tally my expenses, it cost me under $1.00 a gram to produce (labour included) and could easily sell for $3/g , that’s a 200% profit.
Again I say, blame the world leaders for being uneducated idiots
Again I say, blame the world leaders for being uneducated idiots
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Bob Loblaw
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Ya sorry but that don't add up.
I wouldn't say the leaders are the uneducated ones though... quite the opposite in my mind.
The trouble is that the world leaders are not working for you or me or us.
I wouldn't say the leaders are the uneducated ones though... quite the opposite in my mind.
The trouble is that the world leaders are not working for you or me or us.
PE636
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I'm guessing a serious seed producer would have good times and bad. We may be wrong to think everything offered up is bought immediately. I'm sure there are some losses and more expenses than we can account for. But obviously can be profitable to some degree, which I am cool with. Lots of selection and a huge range of price points in the market really.
PE636
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Also, nobody is gonna launder all those profits for nothing, there goes half.
The Celt
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Well I look at it this way Bob, if the governments way back when, hadn’t demonized cannabis and made it illegal, it wouldn’t have needed to be an underground business.
Having said that though, they actually did us lovers of the plant a favour. We have an awesome selection of strains, that would never had been produced in a legal market, bred by lovers of the plant rather than some multi-national corporation who would have used GMO techniques to produce “patentable” strains that you could only get if you bought from them and would be illegal to reproduce.
Having said that though, they actually did us lovers of the plant a favour. We have an awesome selection of strains, that would never had been produced in a legal market, bred by lovers of the plant rather than some multi-national corporation who would have used GMO techniques to produce “patentable” strains that you could only get if you bought from them and would be illegal to reproduce.
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Bob Loblaw
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That's all good but I totally disagree with the last line. Selection? How does a grower even know the true origin of the parents. 2 different growers have the same parents and make seed but now we have 2 different strains from the same 2 parents? How different are all these "strains"?
Huge price range? bla
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Bob Loblaw
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Hmm GMO.... any experimenters out there? Thanks but I didn't need that.......
OUCH! my brain...... gotta go smoke something stronger.....brb
The Celt
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As cannabis is still illegal in most countries around the world, we won’t have to worry about GMO plants for some time yet 
PE636
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There is plenty of differences between the various strains. Of course some of it is BS and marketing crap of course. But I've grown enough to see lots of variety. We don't know the lineage other than what is claimed, but that has nothing to do with the price really unless they are using popular strain names as a selling point. Buyer beware like always. I've seen seeds from 5 bucks each to over 20. Is one better than the other? Only one way to find out.
PE636
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What are you puffing on Bob?Hmm GMO.... any experimenters out there? Thanks but I didn't need that.......
OUCH! my brain...... gotta go smoke something stronger.....brb
Prohibition is a wonderful tool for driving up profits. It’s incredible.
Running three 600 watt HID lights, each covering a bit less than a 4x4 area, my entire grow covers about 40 square feet of growing area.
To use the brilliant ‘sheets of plywood’ standard developed by Uncle Cannabis, my grow measures about 1.25 SOP. If I want to go for max production methods I can fairly easily produce a pound a month in flowering. Standard wholesale price was $2400 a pound for quite a few years. Before that it was $3000- $3500.
My extended family runs a small organic farm and cultivates about ten acres at any given time, including some huge greenhouses. To be honest they barely scrape by.
Prices are dropping, but as of a few years ago my 1.25 sheets of plywood farm was producing a larger potential profit margin than theirs was. It probably still is most months of the year.
If it was cops doing the math I’m sure the ‘street value’ would get me that Ferrari. As it is I occasional trade for jars of homemade jelly and stuff.
Running three 600 watt HID lights, each covering a bit less than a 4x4 area, my entire grow covers about 40 square feet of growing area.
To use the brilliant ‘sheets of plywood’ standard developed by Uncle Cannabis, my grow measures about 1.25 SOP. If I want to go for max production methods I can fairly easily produce a pound a month in flowering. Standard wholesale price was $2400 a pound for quite a few years. Before that it was $3000- $3500.
My extended family runs a small organic farm and cultivates about ten acres at any given time, including some huge greenhouses. To be honest they barely scrape by.
Prices are dropping, but as of a few years ago my 1.25 sheets of plywood farm was producing a larger potential profit margin than theirs was. It probably still is most months of the year.
If it was cops doing the math I’m sure the ‘street value’ would get me that Ferrari. As it is I occasional trade for jars of homemade jelly and stuff.
PE636
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Was also thinking, making seeds is one thing, creating even a somewhat stable strain is massively more work. My last order of seeds came to 91 dollars for 16 seeds including the freebies. That is 5.75 a seed. Dirt freaking cheap in my books.
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Bob Loblaw
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White widow, crop king fem.... I'm told.
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