Monster Cloning & Seeds, LEDs, Promix & Soil

[KingJoe83]

Ok 2 zamaldalica going In 5g cocos asap. Lol I ran out of pots it’s 1g fabric or 5g pails now.
So m grow shop still doesn’t have that blue ocean mycos in. Shit Newty! Lol. I still have a table spoon or two left. They also had no Pertile to add to my promix so I’m waiting on that too. Man gtowshops are expanding I’m this town. They don’t care if the shelves are full as long as people come in.

I’m not kidding if I had the coin I would invest in a store myself half the shops here are poorly ran and just dirty atmosphere.

Some stores shouldn’t even be in bossiness there selection focus les on bulk or not good selection or 100% helpful

I would come up with ways to make the place an enjoyable experience.

I dunno I’m getting older or something. More of a critic these days lol

Thanks 420 lol

 

[KingJoe83]

ProMix HP is loaded with perlite. Looks like more than I use when I mixed perlite into my Dr Earth soil and I thought I used a lot!

I like to ad about 20-30% extra to promix hp myself personally it holds moisture too well

 

[KingJoe83]

The pots im running right now have 1/3 coco mixed in promix. Maybe that’s why this runs already greener than last lol.
And you folks are right, I’ve put a lot of time in with promix. It’s used on this site by top buders....I should take this experience and get the promix pumping!
....However, I would like to see if this can be easier. I already have 3, 8 spout water sprinklers lol. And @Derbybud is making a toutorial. Sounds like the universe is pushing me here. To b coco for coco!

Youll love it once comfortable

 

[KingJoe83]

Howdy 420 Folks!

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Far back right GG2 then OGH then SD then Jonny Blaze and left back GG1

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Close caliBD, next CaliO then GG3

Looking mighty fine brotha

 

[Lowded118]

I like to ad about 20-30% extra to promix hp myself personally it holds moisture too well

Thanks Joe, I’m so happy with this crop.
Promix not drying out!?!?! preaching to the choir. I’m living it! Yea either add pertile or use shallow pots. My pots that were 1/2-3/4 full dried perfectly light without drooping. You could drench them and they would grow. These 18in deep ones are a little different. I only water the top section it seems the bottom can’t dry without droopy stressing. They are (dangerously IMO) heavy when I splash them daily or every second day. However that being said, the pots now are always lite as f all the time as I don’t drench to drainoff. If they were this heavy and I drench them I would get the yellow leaf. However I’m not really a gardener, so these are mostly my observations not proven facts.
I’ll try, if I’m more than 8in deep and not in the sun that sucks moisture too fast, adding pertile. I saw some guys that just added it 4in or so, to the bottom of their pots straight up. They must have noticed the same thing I did lol. Heavy bottoms droopy tops. Needs more drainag down low.

O my inexperienced grower problems. Sorry Folks, like Shed said, just learning what works for me.

 

[KingJoe83]

Thanks Joe, I’m so happy with this crop.
Promix not drying out!?!?! preaching to the choir. I’m living it! Yea either add pertile or use shallow pots. My pots that were 1/2-3/4 full dried perfectly light without drooping. You could drench them and they would grow. These 18in deep ones are a little different. I only water the top section it seems the bottom can’t dry without droopy stressing. They are (dangerously IMO) heavy when I splash them daily or every second day. However that being said, the pots now are always lite as f all the time as I don’t drench to drainoff. If they were this heavy and I drench them I would get the yellow leaf. However I’m not really a gardener, so these are mostly my observations not proven facts.
I’ll try, if I’m more than 8in deep and not in the sun that sucks moisture too fast, adding pertile. I saw some guys that just added it 4in or so, to the bottom of their pots straight up. They must have noticed the same thing I did lol. Heavy bottoms droopy tops. Needs more drainag down low.

O my inexperienced grower problems. Sorry Folks, like Shed said, just learning what works for me.

That is what makes it more special bro

 

[InTheShed]

Plants are looking healthy Lowded and the thumb needs a lighter next to it for size reference . I'm not finding the ProMix HP retaining water yet but I've only used it in two 3 gallon plastic pots so far. With that much visible perlite already in it I wasn't going to add any more when I transplant to 7 or 10 gallon felt pot final homes, but now you're making me nervous!

 

[Lowded118]

. I'm not finding the ProMix HP retaining water yet but I've only used it in two 3 gallon plastic pots so far. With that much visible perlite already in it I wasn't going to add any more when I transplant to 7 or 10 gallon felt pot final homes, but now you're making me nervous!

Blahah. Sorry Shed, sorry everyone, ok so the veg room f popped around.
My gosh. I did water different but here’s maybe something that could help,

don’t pat the promix I think. The fluffy fluffy pots I have are sweet as f. The packed down peat ones over time seem to settle and get drain shitty.
Look I don’t know what I’m doing but I think promix likes to be fluffy. Sorry for yoyoing, but f the fluffy shirts awesome! And I can stick my finger in my other pots are f so hard to get a knuckle in.
Like it’s cloned well for me and grown me tone o pot. I’m just noticing some small improvemts.

So I believe user error patting promix. Just put it in pot. And grow! Water slow do u don’t pack it

 

[Lowded118]

Sorry for the shitty mood folks. I think I have things back to normal. My sickys are gone and my buds are growing. Learning is hard to admit. But guys this new watering style, I might be doing wrong I don’t know, it working lol.

Oh worm update. The cuz stopped by said more food! And more water I guess I was pretty dry she added 3G lol. We mixed the whole bag and will now feed heavy to get some spawning. No cottage cheese like shed yet!

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[Lowded118]

Mixed up
5g
60mlbloom micro
5ml grow
30ml big bud
30 mil terp
700ppm
200ppm calmag 12ml
900ppm
Everyone has tip burn after last feed except the Cali bd. Do I keep pumping her?

 

[Lowded118]

That is what makes it more special bro

 

[philthegeek]

"So I believe user error patting promix. Just put it in pot. And grow! Water slow do u don’t pack it "

Yup, would agree with that. Important lesson to have learned. Whatever you are using as a media you need oxygen in the root zone.

Hydro, you can aerate it with bubblers, or use perlite, clayballs with the nutrient fluid flowing over and through so it gets aerated. My understanding is that coco stays pretty loose and fluffy?? "Hempy buckets" have the roots getting down into basically a permanent water table, but thats cool because the upper 3./4 of the pot is all perlite with lots of spaces for air to penetrate.

Soil it depends on the mix. Mine may not be the best and most efficient soil but the coarse river sand, peat, composted pine bark fines seems to work, IF i use that at 50% with medium coarse perlite to fluff it. Dmap, but not wet and it wicks water from the bottom up quite nicely.

People use all kinds of additives for fungi and bacteria and whatnot, but the basic for a healthy root zone is aeration. And if its well aerated you will have little or no problem with over watering so can relax about that. None of the expensive additives are work jack shit if you dont have an aerobic root zone.

Funny. Living on the Sunset side of the Great South Land ...worlds best beaches bar none... We have VERY old soils here, but some of the worlds most diverse flora. Reason for that is that the plants have evolved lots of different ways to extract nutrients from the poor and salty soils and most of those involve mychorrhizal fungi. Some of those fungi are specific to one species of plant. You never have success at transplanting native orchids here unless you do it along with some of the soil it grew in because of that...and even then its very difficult with some species.

I knew some of the people who did original work here on fungi / bacterial mixes that could be commercially cultured and then applied to wheat and other grains crops and it did lead to yield improvements but users had to work out the cost / benefit which isn't always there. depends on a lot of factors apparently. The main guy ended up moving to the US to commercialise and made lots $.

Its more mainstream now i guess. For this kind of grow i'm actually a bit skeptical as to the cost benefit of the expensive hydro shop additives. Have a decent worm farm. Add the diluted juice from that which will have a plethora of the local fungi and bacteria in it along with a broad range of macro nutrients and trace elements and you are probably all good.

LoL! I had a look at the ingredient lists on the packs of some really expensive "dedicated" hydroponics nutrient concentrates in the local hardware / garden shop. Next to them was the common garden liquid fertiliser packs..much cheaper and the same stuff. Well, different %'s for some components but very similar and 1/3 to 1/4 the price.

I think for a full on hydro grow i'd use the off the shelf concentrates. Easier and pH is important for hydro and i'm lazy. But for a soil grow i keep it simple and cheap and use garden variety stuff. Seems to me that the expensive stuff is marketing to the desire of growers to interfere with their plants and "optimise" everything.

Nah...be kind to them, give em lots of light, as much water as they want, a feed every few days or a week and they are happy happy weeds.....provided they have a nice fluffy root zone.

sorry, that turned into a longer post than i thought....

Seeyahs!

 

[Itibitiguy]

I use promix hp and fabric pots. I'll usually fill them up to the top, small press down, and water them new soil. Then I transplant, its settled down then. I'm using 7 gallon pots and water 1.2 gallons to each pot twice a week, and less at the start.... maybe a gallon and of course the start of veg is gonna be less.

 

[Lowded118]

Thank you Folks. Yes when this stuff is working like I have it now it’s a great medium. I freaked the heck out, I have flushed so many times I think I emptied the airspace. yea iti maybe I need one more transplant closer to flower to help the airspace? And get that stretch I’m looking for! My lady’s in flower are so firm I can barely get a finger into the medium to test moisture. My veg room now, the promix is beautiful, so fluffy and light! Easy to say I moist at knuckle.
Phil the Mycrohazze is crazy! I just mixed my worm farm top too bottom so it will be a while till I have more juice. That soil mix sounds cool! My cousin thought the cardboard was too dry and added water.

I’m slowly learning just having a few roadblocks lol. But I’ll say this, the better looking plants have lower promix than my packed pots. I’ll continue to water slow as f
It I’m struggling I’m learning lol.

 

[InTheShed]

That veg tent looks happy with whatever you're doing! I haven't added Mykos to the ProMix HP plants because it says "Mycorrhizae" in big type on the bag. Am I being cheap?

 

[Lowded118]

That veg tent looks happy with whatever you're doing! I haven't added Mykos to the ProMix HP plants because it says "Mycorrhizae" in big type on the bag. Am I being cheap?

You don’t flush as much lol. I’ve seriously beat the f out of mine. That’s y pertiles gone
Plus I washed it to reuse...floated all pertile to top when I stired.
I’m sure there’s a pile o myco in there. I however have little knowledge and just go by which hype gets attention on here lol.
I mostly add mycos at transplant and believe they like it. Slight sag without, seem to stand right at attention post transplant with it. I just started adding it pre use.
I’m so afraid of everything right now shed I’m afraid to water, afraid not to water lol. Like a puppy in training.

Things look better than they ever have. My bitching is because of my struggles. I’m learning but my fingers make it sound different. I’m glad to be here and grovin. I now have GG2 and Jonny blaze that are easy clone easy growing even in my conditions lol. Maybe what I need are just a few good grows to clear my mind. Autowater coco.....

 

[InTheShed]

Like a puppy in training

Brilliant observation Lowded. I love that analogy.

And your pics tell the current plant story better than your fingers. But having both gives us insight into how you think and that's what this site is all about.

 

[Lowded118]

I need that man. Lol yea the puppy, it’s true I don’t know right from wrong!
Very little sleep lately, my alcohol consumption is so hard on my body, but it relieves my cough enough to attempt sleep the side effects however....last night I didn’t sleep a minuete my machine I use to live was alarming all night telling me to drink sugar, this has been going on since I caught the flu, going on 7days today, no sleep and struggles along with life last cute struggles, sometimes can make me see things bitter.
Thanks for your patience. It’s not like I’m abusing it. I’m talking 2-4oz in a hot ttty or two.
What’s worse than not falling asleep is constant awakening with the fear of dying if you don’t wake up. Lol. We all have our struggles.

I’m blessed to have bitched so much as I did receive some gold from all of you thank you. I’m just ashamed of how I whined. Lol

 

[InTheShed]

We all have the occasional freak-out so no apology needed! I hope you start feeling better soon and catch up on some sleep.

 

[KingJoe83]

Mixed up
5g
60mlbloom micro
5ml grow
30ml big bud
30 mil terp
700ppm
200ppm calmag 12ml
900ppm
Everyone has tip burn after last feed except the Cali bd. Do I keep pumping her?

No back off a bit or lock out can happen easier