Dick23rk's 1st Journal - 1st Hempy - CKS Autoflower Candy Cane & Amnesia Haze - 2016

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Mmm a fair amount to read through.
PH rise, might be related to the plant is feeding more on nutrients & kind of thinking as you lowered nutrients to sort out a nitrogen issue may of lead to minor leaf problem at present but as you are back on track with feeding i don't think the problem will continue ?
If it does continue we will need a pic of the leafs effected & most of the time the common defs in early to mid flowering will be phosphorus & potassium whilst dosage of nutrients are corrected with out causing nutrient burn.
Basically if testing liquid what is left in the res should tell you what is going on before reapplying a nutrient solution.
PH rise going past PH 7 suggest plants are using nutrients which are acidic in nature hence the PH value you started with will change due to depletion of nutrients, suggesting a different dosage of nutrients to stage of plant development as an increase of nutrients may well be required to support flowering.
Could suggest water type used tho !
PH going down to acidic levels may suggest the plants are drinking more water increasing nutrient concentration with in the res this could well be related to a high temperature & low RH issue.
But over all looks pretty fine 'n' healthy to me & doing just great :high-five:

Hey again Fuzzy Duck! Thanks for that tid bit of info there. This makes so much more sense now as to why the ph would rise the way it did. It's almost a common sense thing but didn't know what to expect with this being my first attempt at a hydro type grow.
The ph levels in the reservoirs have only been rising and not lowering, so this is a good thing knowing that the plants are taking up all or most of their nutrients. I may just have to re-adjust what they are getting in their feedings.
As for the effected leaves, it is only happening to the one plant but this one is also the biggest and most vigorous grower. I will try to get some better pictures when I have the time, possibly tomorrow. The deficiency I am seeing is small round rust looking spots here and they are mostly on the middle growth. From what I have found through searching the web is a calcium issue on the effected leaves but I won't rule out the possibility of phosphorus and potassium issues either.
Also I have been using RO water throughout their lives, only had to use bottled water once and that was over a couple weeks ago.
Thanks again for the advice and info!

Subbed, love to see how the FIMmed #2s turn out.

Sure thing Bevman, thanks for tagging along. The 2 FIM'd ladies have been doing very well and are a lot easier to maintain. I have high hopes for these 2 and believe they will yield better than the others.

Looking good bro like the hole 12/12 run I wanted to do one run also on 12/12 the last run I did was 11/13 in flower I jus may try a 12/12 side in the fall keep up the good work! !

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Thanks stewie. I have done a couple of grows before with photoperiod plants on 12/12 cycle right from seed, it certainly works but yields are decreased and the plants stay smaller. It is rather interesting as they almost grow just like an autoflower would. They were all bagseed experiments so not really any big loss, just learning curves.
 
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**Update - April 26th - Day 43 - Day 3 Flowering**

Time for a quick update everyone. Have been a little pre-occupied the last couple days but I managed to get in the garden last night for a bit and snapped some pictures today before work. Things seems to be going relatively well and I am certainly not complaining.
Now that I have some more info on what is happening with my ph I may be able to ease my mind a little with what was going on. I may just have to adjust the nutrients a little to ensure the ladies are getting the correct amounts of nutrients and not running out in between feedings which is usually every 2 days lately, 3 days at the most. Lets hope for the best in this case.
Last night I did a little LST to the FIM'd plants. I tied down the 4 lower branches as much as possible without feeling like they were going to snap. I believe this went quite well. The reason for this is because they weren't getting quite as much light to all the bud sites as I would have liked and this really ended up helping in the end. As soon as I put them back in the room I could instantly see the difference it made with the light penetration to all of the bud sites. Very glad I did this. In the future I will be sure to do this earlier on in the plants lives and start trying to make the plants grow the way I want them to before they start to harden up.
I believe that is it for today, everything still seems to be normal and stable. No big changes as of yet. Will try to get a more detailed update done for you all next time. Thanks for stopping by everyone!

Amnesia #1


Amnesia #2


Candy #1


Candy #2
 
Re: Dick23rk's 1st Journal - 1st Hempy - CKS Autoflower Candy Cane & Amnesia Haze - 2

Looking great as always. I'm really jealous of your candies they seem like the will definitely give a nice harvest. Also I'm sure you'll work that pH problem out... I'm thinking about using advanced nutrients pH perfect next time as I heard it works extremely well on not having to touch pH at all, something to think about. Anyway hope your doing good other wise. Cheers dude.

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Those babies look beautiful. Hope my first grow goes as well.

The LST job looks awesome. Really opened those girls up.
 
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Not sure why but your pictures are always incredibly small on my phone... I want too see them clearly :'( .... I'll jump on the computer tomorrow at work to give your ladies the once over... been slacking looking at other threads my apologies. I can however see yours will put out much more than mine... can't wait to smoke some Candy. Cheers friend .

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Nice looking plants & looking forwards to see them flower :Namaste:
 
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Those babies look beautiful. Hope my first grow goes as well.
The LST job looks awesome. Really opened those girls up.

Thanks bevman, the lst really did help. If I hadn't of spread them out like that it would have just been a big mess in there to try and deal with. They are bushing out nicely now. I am sure you will do great on your first grow as well, you will learn a lot if anything! Do you have a journal started?

Wow those plants are growing as big as trees! Awesome job!
Pretty sure that will be a lot of budporn to come!

Well Kundal, I wouldn't say trees but some nice big bushes. I am pretty impressed with myself so far to say the least. And yes, there should be lots of bud porn, the flowers are forming nicely here now! Thanks again.

Not sure why but your pictures are always incredibly small on my phone... I want too see them clearly :'( .... I'll jump on the computer tomorrow at work to give your ladies the once over... been slacking looking at other threads my apologies. I can however see yours will put out much more than mine... can't wait to smoke some Candy. Cheers friend .

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Hey llamabomb, I think the reason they are so small on your phone could be because I am just posting thumbnails linked to the original picture. Have you tried clicking on the pictures to see if they come up bigger? I was just trying to post them this way to make things seem a little more organized and save some page space. I find it's easier to read thru this way.
I have also been slacking, need to get my update done here shortly since I haven't been around much. Very busy over here lately with work and life. I can't wait either until they get some fat buds built up!

Nice looking plants & looking forwards to see them flower :Namaste:

Thanks again Fuzzy Duck, I am glad you're here for the journey. You have definitely made a difference in this grow for me and that has not gone unnoticed. I am looking forward to this flowering cycle as well, things are producing and moving along nicely.
 
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**Update - April 30th - Day 47 - Day 7 flowering**

Hey again everyone! I have been slacking lately and haven't gotten my updates done on the days I would have liked to. Things have been pretty hectic over here with work picking up and life in general. This update will be for yesterday, fed all the ladies and took all the pictures but didn't get my update done til now. We have been having some beautiful weather so I have been doing things outside that needed to get done. But I am back now with a great update on everything.

Mostly what has been done over these past few days has been a lot of leaf tucking here and there, a little bit of lower defoliation and pruning to get rid of any growth that wont amount to anything or get much light and the upping of nutrients in their feedings to the week 2 schedule for flowering. The ladies are starting to bush out now since the lst that I did, they are starting to take up more room in my 4x4 space than I figured they would and are crowding my bagseed girls.

The nutrients have been upped to start their 2nd week of flowering. This is the feedings before and after:
Before.. Micro - 6ml, Gro - 6ml, Bloom - 10ml, Armour Si - 1ml
Now.. Micro - 7ml, Gro - 3ml, Bloom - 12ml, Armour Si - 1.5ml
When I had switched over to the bloom schedule I was only giving 3/4 strength for the first couple of feedings and then went to full strength after no signs of nute burn or toxicities. So these ladies will be getting full strength feedings until harvest now and if any deficiencies come up I will alter the amounts of nutes to deal with the problem at that time.

Maybe in another week or so I will go ahead and do some minor defoliation to the fan leaves that are blocking light getting to some of the lower shoots that will actually produce some nice popcorn buds, this will mostly be on the 2 FIM'd ladies and if needed I will do the same to the more naturally grown ones as well. They have all had some lower growth removed to focus the energy on the tops.

Flowers are starting to produce some very strong a fruity smells, every morning when I wake up and come downstairs that's all I can smell. It's still hard to determine which ones smell better or different because it is just overwhelming when you stick your head in the tent. Regardless of what they smell like right now, all I can do is sit back and watch them grow buds now. Not a whole lot left to do aside from keep on feeding and look for any problems that may come up. :morenutes:

I don't think there is anything else to report as of today. I will throw up the pictures for everyone to look at now. I have thrown in a shot of a producing flower on each of the plants as well this time around and will likely do that on every other update so we can see the buds progress. Thanks all for stopping in to check out the grow! Take care and best of luck to everyone!


Amnesia #1


Amnesia #2


Candy #1


Candy #2
 
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:popcorn:

Late to the party, but looks like I made it in time for the fun stuff.

Make with the bud-porn Mr. Dick, if you please.

:)

:goodjob: and :nicethread:
 
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Waw they are looking amazing! Love the blue hues in these pics. They have grown a lot lately huh. For some reason I remember them being little babies and look at them now all grown up and producing those exotic pistils. Ahh yes hurray!! Great job man.
 
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Loving the 12/12 bro those girls are really liking it from the looks:thumb:

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Thanks stewie, I am quite surprised with how well they have grown under 12/12 from seed. Will be interesting to see what the next grow will do when they go 18/6 right til harvest. Might have some monster plants, I don't plan on doing anything different really. Maybe an exhaust system in the near future that's about it for now.

Waw they are looking amazing! Love the blue hues in these pics. They have grown a lot lately huh. For some reason I remember them being little babies and look at them now all grown up and producing those exotic pistils. Ahh yes hurray!! Great job man.

Thanks Kundal. That blue hue comes from the flash on my camera when I have it set to adjust the white balance due to the yellow light. Sometimes I use the flash and other times I don't, it's hard to decide which works best. Just need some more camera experience, it's pretty high tech for me.
Yes, they have grown way more than I expected from when they were only 3-4 inches tall. I figured a 1 foot max after stretch, but now the tallest is almost 18 inches and shortest around 14 inches. Time to watch buds grow now!
 
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**Update - May 2nd - Day 49 - Day 9 Flowering**

Finally I got some extra time to spend in the garden today, taking a real good look at things and cleaning up. I think it's about time to remove my bagseed plants from the room as it is getting very crowded and soon they wont be getting much light at all. They are pretty close to done so it shouldn't be long now, still need to decide what I want to make with the buds.. hmmm, oil, rosin, butter... Will see what happens when the time comes lol.

So today while I was in the garden I started noticing that my deficiency issue with Amnesia #2 has gotten a little worse. I am still convinced that it is a calcium deficiency and nothing else yet by researching and going through pictures of the different deficiencies. I will post pictures of this issue below now that I could finally get some clear shots of some effected leaves. Amnesia #1 is showing some very early signs of the same problem but not nearly as bad as her sister. Both Candy Canes still have yet to show this deficiency so this is a good thing!



Gave all the ladies a fresh feeding today and made sure to get a good amount of run off, likely close to a half gallon out of the 2 gallons split between the 4 of them. This should ensure that I mixed up any dissolved salts and unused nutrients and got them flushed out a bit. I also have started mixing in 1 tsp/gal of molasses for some sugar intake during the flowering process. The molasses has some calcium in it as well, but not likely enough to really help with my deficiency issue. I am thinking I will need to order up some calmag, but that may be a week before it even arrives. If anything else I could try upping my micro dosage since this is where all the plants calcium is coming from, it holds 5.0% calcium but may not be enough for these Amnesia ladies.

I also took some measurements 2 days ago when I took the pictures for the last update I did, I just forgot to add them in with it. So here they are..
Amnesia #1 - 17.5" Amnesia#2 - 14.5" Candy #1 - 15.5" Candy #2 - 15"

Flowers are starting to show some better form, more so on Amnesia #1 than the rest. I would say within the next 4 or 5 days you will really be able to see the bud sites better in the pictures. But, from here on out I will include a picture of 1 main bud site / cola from each plant on every update. Since we aren't watching closely at the plants themselves growing anymore, we will watch 1 top cola on each lady from here til harvest. It may not be the same cola every time on the FIM'd ladies, but I will make sure it is a top one. Those 2 FIM'd plants will have 4 to 6 main colas each by the looks of things so I am happy with this technique and will continue to use it.

Weather is starting to get a little warmer around this area so my temps and RH have been fluctuating a little more than normal. During the day with lights on I am getting up to 22 C / 45% and during the night with lights off 16 C / 70%. My RH in the room was climbing upwards of 80-85% during the night but I have found a way to keep the tents door cracked open without letting in any light since the tent is in a corner area and the light doesn't hit the door the right way to get inside when someone is in the basement. I am sure these temp and RH values will all change in the coming months when it really starts getting hot and humid outside.

That's about it for today folks, pretty sure I haven't left anything out. I will be looking for any suggestions on my deficiency problem that I noted above. Hopefully I can get some supplements ordered, I know there isn't enough calcium in molasses to help me out with this one lol. Thanks all for stopping in to see the progress, have a great week everyone and take care!

Amnesia #1


Amnesia#2


Candy #1


Candy #2


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**Update - May 2nd - Day 49 - Day 9 Flowering**

Finally I got some extra time to spend in the garden today, taking a real good look at things and cleaning up. I think it's about time to remove my bagseed plants from the room as it is getting very crowded and soon they wont be getting much light at all. They are pretty close to done so it shouldn't be long now, still need to decide what I want to make with the buds.. hmmm, oil, rosin, butter... Will see what happens when the time comes lol.

So today while I was in the garden I started noticing that my deficiency issue with Amnesia #2 has gotten a little worse. I am still convinced that it is a calcium deficiency and nothing else yet by researching and going through pictures of the different deficiencies. I will post pictures of this issue below now that I could finally get some clear shots of some effected leaves. Amnesia #1 is showing some very early signs of the same problem but not nearly as bad as her sister. Both Candy Canes still have yet to show this deficiency so this is a good thing!



Gave all the ladies a fresh feeding today and made sure to get a good amount of run off, likely close to a half gallon out of the 2 gallons split between the 4 of them. This should ensure that I mixed up any dissolved salts and unused nutrients and got them flushed out a bit. I also have started mixing in 1 tsp/gal of molasses for some sugar intake during the flowering process. The molasses has some calcium in it as well, but not likely enough to really help with my deficiency issue. I am thinking I will need to order up some calmag, but that may be a week before it even arrives. If anything else I could try upping my micro dosage since this is where all the plants calcium is coming from, it holds 5.0% calcium but may not be enough for these Amnesia ladies.

I also took some measurements 2 days ago when I took the pictures for the last update I did, I just forgot to add them in with it. So here they are..
Amnesia #1 - 17.5" Amnesia#2 - 14.5" Candy #1 - 15.5" Candy #2 - 15"

Flowers are starting to show some better form, more so on Amnesia #1 than the rest. I would say within the next 4 or 5 days you will really be able to see the bud sites better in the pictures. But, from here on out I will include a picture of 1 main bud site / cola from each plant on every update. Since we aren't watching closely at the plants themselves growing anymore, we will watch 1 top cola on each lady from here til harvest. It may not be the same cola every time on the FIM'd ladies, but I will make sure it is a top one. Those 2 FIM'd plants will have 4 to 6 main colas each by the looks of things so I am happy with this technique and will continue to use it.

Weather is starting to get a little warmer around this area so my temps and RH have been fluctuating a little more than normal. During the day with lights on I am getting up to 22 C / 45% and during the night with lights off 16 C / 70%. My RH in the room was climbing upwards of 80-85% during the night but I have found a way to keep the tents door cracked open without letting in any light since the tent is in a corner area and the light doesn't hit the door the right way to get inside when someone is in the basement. I am sure these temp and RH values will all change in the coming months when it really starts getting hot and humid outside.

That's about it for today folks, pretty sure I haven't left anything out. I will be looking for any suggestions on my deficiency problem that I noted above. Hopefully I can get some supplements ordered, I know there isn't enough calcium in molasses to help me out with this one lol. Thanks all for stopping in to see the progress, have a great week everyone and take care!

Amnesia #1


Amnesia#2


Candy #1


Candy #2


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I feel as if that last part was directed towards me lol. I tried that long ago and still small and if I take direct link there is a error. I will clarify that this is through the tap talk app though, if I go through full website and they are full size. Cheers dude they look very good.

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I feel as if that last part was directed towards me lol. I tried that long ago and still small and if I take direct link there is a error. I will clarify that this is through the tap talk app though, if I go through full website and they are full size. Cheers dude they look very good.

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Lol it's all good llamabomb. I wanted to make sure everyone else knew as well. I got to thinking maybe some others could be having the same problem. I think it's just my OCD kicking in when I put the pictures that way haha
 
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Been looking at Amnesia #2 leaf problems.

Mmm a tough call to make to be honest, i don't think all plants are equal as many seeds are produced from the parent plant & some of the genetic's may be diverse or phenotype occurrence.


I'm just thinking Amnesia #2 might just be a little bit nutrient hungry in P & K as the pic's of the def seem to resemble a cross between the two nutrient defs, i don't think this is a text book nutrient def tho ?

Just may mean you have to adjust nutrient feed for this single plant & perhaps a little more bloom nutrient to control the def other wise get a P/K boost to help out.


I think other wise if nutrient feed was way out we may see problems on the other girls which we don't & documented history to date, so ye this kind of leads back to the phenotype/genetic issue of this single plant to which may need to be treated differently.
 
Re: Dick23rk's 1st Journal - 1st Hempy - CKS Autoflower Candy Cane & Amnesia Haze - 2

Been looking at Amnesia #2 leaf problems.

Mmm a tough call to make to be honest, i don't think all plants are equal as many seeds are produced from the parent plant & some of the genetic's may be diverse or phenotype occurrence.

I'm just thinking Amnesia #2 might just be a little bit nutrient hungry in P & K as the pic's of the def seem to resemble a cross between the two nutrient defs, i don't think this is a text book nutrient def tho ?

Just may mean you have to adjust nutrient feed for this single plant & perhaps a little more bloom nutrient to control the def other wise get a P/K boost to help out.

I think other wise if nutrient feed was way out we may see problems on the other girls which we don't & documented history to date, so ye this kind of leads back to the phenotype/genetic issue of this single plant to which may need to be treated differently.

Thanks again Fuzzy Duck! You have been providing me with some great info on what is going on with this 1 plant. Everything you've told me makes perfect sense and will most definitely be remembered from here on out. The bloom nutes have been upped by 2ml/gal as well as the micro by 1ml for all 4 plants. We will see if this issue slows down or not now. If not then I will try making another adjustment just for that 1 plant. So far all of the others still seem fine with their nutrients, only a few spots on Amnesia #1 and none on the candy cane ladies.
 
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**Update - May 7th - Day 54 - Day 14 flowering**

Hey all, sorry for my lack of updates as compared to the usual 2 or 3 days apart. Work has had me more tied up than I expected lately, working long days and haven't been around the garden near as much as I would like to be. Really, I have just barely been getting the feedings done. So here we are on Saturday morning getting the ladies all fed with their upped nutrients, taking measurements, checking over all the foliage and bud sites, doing a little leaf tucking and getting all the pictures taken. These plants have really overtaken the grow room in the past week, I had removed my bag seed soil experiments from the room earlier this week and are now chopped, trimmed and hanging to dry. Was a little early for doing all of this yet but I had no other options at the time.

Anyway, the girls are still stretching to my surprise! I had thought they had slowed down some but apparently I was wrong. This is why I hate not having enough time for my garden. I am hoping they are done the stretch by now. Here are the measurements for all the ladies and in brackets how much they've grown in the last 5 days.

Amnesia #1 - 22" (up 4.5") Amnesia #2 - 18" (up 3.5") Candy #1 - 20" (up 4.5") Candy #2 - 22" (up 7")
This is quite the growth spurt for being this far along in flowering. And Candy #2 jumped right up compared to the other 3, not sure why or what happened but I wont complain because now I have pretty even canopy.

The nutrients have been upped to the week 3 flowering schedule. Hoping this may help Amnesia #2 with the deficiency issue, if not she will start getting a separate dosage of nutes made up just for her. Also have been using molasses for the past week, forgot to mention this on the last update. This weeks schedule goes as follows.. Micro - 8ml, Gro - 3ml, Bloom - 14ml, Armour Si - 1.5ml, Molasses - 1tsp/gal.

I am starting to notice some decent trich production starting on a couple of the plants as well. We are certainly well under way now and I can't wait to see how well these plants bloom out. I will get on with the pictures now since everyone loves to see what's going on. Have a great weekend all! I will try to be around more if life allows me to, I have so many subscriptions to other journals and threads I am behind on as well. I will get around to all of them this weekend at some point. First weekend for fishing season around my parts so I may be a little occupied haha. As well our vegetable garden will be going in this weekend so I will be busy busy trying to get everything done. Take care everyone and best of luck!

The grow room and a look at how crowded it is..


Amnesia #1


Amnesia #2


Candy #1


Candy #2
 
Re: Dick23rk's 1st Journal - 1st Hempy - CKS Autoflower Candy Cane & Amnesia Haze - 2

Looking very nice & full of health :green_heart:

Mmm took a good look at Amnesia 2 as far as i could tell looks pretty alright, the only thing i did notice on both amnesia's was a faint sign of possible nutrient burn... a little bit of tip & side margins showing burn like symptoms but very minor, i might keep eye on this as you have just increased nutrients recently to see what happens ?

The candys look superb tho :thumb:
 
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