C99, C99xDiesel, White Rhino DWC Medi-Grow - 2010!

[Darius2250]

Just pulling up a chair

Looks Awesome!

 

[bigdeal422]

Great journal so far. I am just starting my first MMJ grown and I'm doing DWC. I'll stay tuned to see how this turns out for ya bud!

 

[TomatoPie]

Hello again and welcome to day 43.

Mmm, c99 is growing all these little crown things, flower in a flower in a flower... Her colas keep gaining mass, but the pistils are still mainly white. The NYCDc99 and white rhino's pistils have been browning a little more, maybe it's the CFLs.

Mmm sushi, sake, and a little nugget sample of each which has been drying for 3 days, with the mini-bong.

 

[Treeman316]

RESPECT BRO!!! Nice set-up!!

 

[TomatoPie]

So yeah, cindy is a magnesium HOE, she has 4x as much calmag in her res as her neighbors, pH is within magnesium range, yet keeps asking for more!


I still haven't figured out why some of her fan leaves are rolled up like a cigar, rolling up would increase transpiration right? I figure that's not a terribly bad thing, uptake more water and nutes

I gotta say though, she's not gonna be done at 55 days that's for sure, she's not even done growing flowers!

PS: Feed my journal some stars! plizkthx

 

[bigdeal422]

Your ladies are looking amazing! How do you transport/dispose of water, and is your closet close to a water source? As far as making a chore out of moving all of that water around, have you thought about plumbing some valves into your rez(s) and buying an inline water pump? It would make moving water so much easier. You could just pump the water into/out of the rez. Just a thought.

 

[HealingKronic]

looking incredible man! look at them colas reach for the light! you may have a 70 day flower time on your hands.

 

[TomatoPie]

Your ladies are looking amazing! How do you transport/dispose of water, and is your closet close to a water source? As far as making a chore out of moving all of that water around, have you thought about plumbing some valves into your rez(s) and buying an inline water pump? It would make moving water so much easier. You could just pump the water into/out of the rez. Just a thought.

I was looking at it as my enforced weekly workout


Next run I will be changing things around, only one or two DWC tubs and hempy buckets filling in the rest of the space, those plants have gotten too big for my area and they weigh as much as the rez now (20kg of water + plant weight). They pull on each other when I try to remove them, they're each others' supports.

I didn't install taps initially due to fear of catastrophic plumbing failure. And now it's too late, and I'm really shit broke, can't afford next months bills, work is nowhere on the horizon... I'll figure it out.

looking incredible man! look at them colas reach for the light! you may have a 70 day flower time on your hands.

Haha I was figurin' she won't be 50-55 days at this point, she grows fast, sexes fast, puts on flowers in week 1, BUT WONT STOP FLOWERING!!

I won't complain about extra weight, hehe.

Thanks for stoppin' by, I wish I could share this with all of you when they're done. Ah, legalization... Soon, we will have Cannabis back in his and her rightful place.

 

[Tiger Balm]

Legalization and you could earn a living as a care-giver. Keep voting, peeps! More letters to the editor of your state newspaper!

 

[TomatoPie]

I earned a letter writer of the month last year on MAPINC.org Opening minds, chasing that prohibitionist propaganda bullshit out of every day Canadians and Americans, is the solution. We're already at the tipping point.

One day, I'll have a greenhouse per strain.

 

[Tiger Balm]

I earned a letter writer of the month last year on MAPINC.org Opening minds, chasing that prohibitionist propaganda bullshit out of every day Canadians and Americans, is the solution. We're already at the tipping point.

One day, I'll have a greenhouse per strain.

MAP: The Media Awareness Project Excellent site! Thanks!

 

[Sky Rocket]

Just jumped on board for this mofo train ride. Man those biiiiaaaaaatttttttccheess are swelling up. Keep it up my man

 

[TomatoPie]

I've been posting mainly pics of Cindy99, because the others are hard to get good pics, and I've been infatuated with her since the beginning.

Time to stop discriminating on NYCinDy, we'll keep discriminating on White Rhino for now


Day 46 bud porn!

She's almost ready, here's some of the smaller side colas

But not quite ready yet, this is her back triple-node (one of two main) cola, she's still pumping those pistils and I think she's got a bit more fattening up to do.

Hope you enjoy! I sure can't wait to start on her!

 

[TomatoPie]

So, about flushing.

I was thinking of harvesting in stages, letting the bottom fill out after picking nugs as they get ripe. I've also read some posts critical of flushing and causing deficiencies to the plant as it ripens.
Wouldn't a proper cure take care of the supposed "harshness" blamed on people giving their plants too much ferts during a phase of it's life where it's demands are lessening, but not null.

I was thinking of lowering the ppm for those final weeks as I stagget my harvest. I don't have a pen, so I'd just give less nutes.

Any flaws in my logic, or can someone share some non-forum-parroted knowledge?

I wouldn't want my buds tasting bad or smoking harsh, but I want my plant to be as healthy as possible until the very end for full flowers containing their full palate of aromas and fragrances. Also I'd like to know the actual length my strains grow with no severe stress, for future dialing in.

 

[TomatoPie]

WOOHOO, one of my Cindy bud-clones have rooted, so that particular stress factor is gone. I have continuity of her genes, and 4 potential other clones to also root for the next run.

I'm thinkin'.... 4 Cindy(2 hempy 2 DWC), 1 NYCDc99 in hempy already some 8" tall. Not gonna grow big ol' monsters like this time, I'm thinking untopped single cola xmas trees, maybe a bit of LST to help the side shoots out. I don't have the space for that much plant mass, I may take a little hit in yield though, oh well, life is for learning!


Actually now that I think of it, those budclones are gonna come out with a gajillion branches, has anyone seen that? It's ridiculous It's gonna be vietnam in there again...

'Till next time

 

[3lions]

i guess there's no interest in my first grow

i see how it is!! My nugs are not big enough so you look at her over there with the bigger ones!


I just now understand what it feels like to have small boobs.

 

[gangalicious]

So, about flushing.

I was thinking of harvesting in stages, letting the bottom fill out after picking nugs as they get ripe. I've also read some posts critical of flushing and causing deficiencies to the plant as it ripens.
Wouldn't a proper cure take care of the supposed "harshness" blamed on people giving their plants too much ferts during a phase of it's life where it's demands are lessening, but not null.

I was thinking of lowering the ppm for those final weeks as I stagget my harvest. I don't have a pen, so I'd just give less nutes.

Any flaws in my logic, or can someone share some non-forum-parroted knowledge?

I wouldn't want my buds tasting bad or smoking harsh, but I want my plant to be as healthy as possible until the very end for full flowers containing their full palate of aromas and fragrances. Also I'd like to know the actual length my strains grow with no severe stress, for future dialing in.

Hey Afka. Even though the idea seems to make some sense, I have some of the same questions as you about flushing. Separating fact from opinion is sometimes difficult. The idea is that the lack of nutes will force the plant to use up its "reserves" and "burn up" or metabolize the substances that cause the final smoke to be harsh. Additionally, there is some argument that the added stress may promote trichome/bud production. I agree, these are very sexy ideas, but I've seen no objective science on flushing yet.

For example, what compounds are actually being metabolized during the flush? And, are these compounds responsible for the harshness? Are the compounds metabolized right in the buds or translocated out of the buds and then "burned up?" And what about the inorganic elements and salts?

While my plant science is lacking, my knowledge of chemistry is not. Elements like magnesium, calcium, phosphorus, iron, etc cannot be "broken down" into simpler substances, yet I've read repeatedly that flushing "burns up" all these minerals and their salts too. Cannot possibly be true. At best, the metals would have to be translocated out of the buds and sent to other parts of the plant, or new, less harsh compounds would have to be made from them. Where do they go?

My guess is that curing will take care of a lot of the harshness. That said, many awesome growers swear by flushing, and so (for me) this is enough empirical evidence to continue to flush - for now - in spite of my lingering questions. Besides, many organic compounds can be broken down, the question is whether or not the cure will take care of all of that, right?

I would also guess that your plan to decrease, but not eliminate, the nutes would work just fine along with a nice cure, but I defer to more experienced growers. Good questions though, very good questions, indeed.

I've also read that you're gonna get a lot more flavor and all the wonderful aromas mostly by letting your ladies develop to their fullest extent as the THC and THC related compounds are converted into the vast array of cannabinoids and other organic molecules that improve aroma and flavor.

Beautiful plants, man!

 

[TomatoPie]

Thanks for the input, can't rep you again it says


And, as far as I understand, the buds or apical tips are dumps, the leaves and roots are sources.


There's too much pseudoscience around this, so I guess I'll be the guy who harvests his buds as they are ready with no flushing, while giving them a proper cure and see what happens.

I might "flush" at the final popcorn harvest to see if I can notice a difference, but I'll be low ppm anyway.

Here's to experiments, documentation and understanding!


ps: Can't wait to see Gaia finish

 

[gangalicious]

I earned a letter writer of the month last year on MAPINC.org Opening minds, chasing that prohibitionist propaganda bullshit out of every day Canadians and Americans, is the solution. We're already at the tipping point.

One day, I'll have a greenhouse per strain.

Thank you for all the work you've done with the letter writing! I agree, we are at some sort of tipping point as more and more Canadians and Americans realize that they've been lied to in so many ways, and not just about cannabis either. Pseudoscience is rampant in the US, especially in medicine, driven by the greed and extraordinary power of the pharmaceutical industry-government complex (FDA=pharmaceutical industry is practically a true statement). Law enforcement agencies are significant sources of lies and propaganda too.

Fortunately, however, the collection of real scientific evidence supporting cannabis as a safe and effective medicine (or even a safe recreational drug) is larger than most people believe. Besides, the anecdotal evidence for safe and effective use is vast. Now, more than ever, regular citizens are beginning to see the hypocrisy and propaganda for what it's worth.

More and more average people, I think, are able to see that the real facts just don't match up with what we're being told by authority figures. If you go to your favorite video site and watch any sort of pro-con video or debate, you will see what I mean. The pro-legalization side destroys the con side every single time, by every measure of rational argument I can think of, just by presenting the FACTS and real science.

So, yes, the time is ripe and I thank you very much!

Thanks for the input, can't rep you again it says


And, as far as I understand, the buds or apical tips are dumps, the leaves and roots are sources.


There's too much pseudoscience around this, so I guess I'll be the guy who harvests his buds as they are ready with no flushing, while giving them a proper cure and see what happens.

I might "flush" at the final popcorn harvest to see if I can notice a difference, but I'll be low ppm anyway.

Here's to experiments, documentation and understanding!


ps: Can't wait to see Gaia finish

I'm really interested to see what you find. Here's to experimentation!

 

[Tiger Balm]

Thank you for all the work you've done with the letter writing! I agree, we are at some sort of tipping point as more and more Canadians and Americans realize that they've been lied to in so many ways, and not just about cannabis either. Pseudoscience is rampant in the US, especially in medicine, driven by the greed and extraordinary power of the pharmaceutical industry-government complex (FDA=pharmaceutical industry is practically a true statement). Law enforcement agencies are significant sources of lies and propaganda too.

Fortunately, however, the collection of real scientific evidence supporting cannabis as a safe and effective medicine (or even a safe recreational drug) is larger than most people believe. Besides, the anecdotal evidence for safe and effective use is vast. Now, more than ever, regular citizens are beginning to see the hypocrisy and propaganda for what it's worth.

More and more average people, I think, are able to see that the real facts just don't match up with what we're being told by authority figures. If you go to your favorite video site and watch any sort of pro-con video or debate, you will see what I mean. The pro-legalization side destroys the con side every single time, by every measure of rational argument I can think of, just by presenting the FACTS and real science.

So, yes, the time is ripe and I thank you very much!




I'm really interested to see what you find. Here's to experimentation!

I think 420Magazine and sites like 420 have had an enormous effect.
I know I was thinking about growing and grow buddy gave me the link to Cervantes Grow Bible and i started googling terms for definitions, and found here, not only grow advice, but by reading the forums, ways to be politically active. And by supporting each other, we can rise up and change a culture just as militaristic as this one. Read a story with this theme (at the bottom of my signature).