Cheers dank. Yeah I'm trying to get as much cloudy as possible. I don't need it as a medicine...yet! I'll keep that in mind for the days when I do. I reakon there is plenty of amber on mine.
Not a brilliant photo but you can see the amber.
Gonna take off some today.
The discussion here has been really robust of late! Heaps of great perspectives. I agree on one level that I can make great music without knowing the theory of music (or at least knowing some rudimentary basics and running with it from there), one can even become highly accomplished. It's also true that knowing music theory makes to possible to do more with music more consciously - to manipulate it with a fuller understanding of what it is that's going on and creating the effects you're after. As it is for music composition (I liked it when that analogy came up, so I'm running wiht it) - I think similar goes on amongst all of us experimenting with oil making and those going further trying to get into the details of it. There's certainly a need for both and indeed the most successful oils are going to come from a synergy of instinct and knowledge. A desire to know about the process of decarbing and the possibilities of terpene retention and application exists in everyone who visits this thread (more than a few times I guess) otherwise we wouldn't be here. The work that's been done has been amazing to observe so far and I look forward to more of it. I'm very appreciative of people putting in so much tome effort and funds to keep it rolling.
Does the current state of affairs indicate that the endeavour is drawing to some kind of natural end? I really don't think so. Far from it. A great deal has been learned. We all benefit from that. True scientific discovery takes time, and patience. And support. Sometimes it moves fast, sometimes it seems not to move at all. It's also alchemy that's being developed here and that sometimes involves elements and processes that seem magical and therefore understanding the processes and reasons for "success" or "failure" is elusive. Practice, enquiry, artisanry, clinical observation, scientific testing and analysis, experimentation... this is not a finite process the people who started this thread are engaged in
All this talk recently about reintegration of terpenes specific to a particular plant got me thinking a lot. I could see the perceived potential medicinal benefit of wanting to go down this path, but it seemed odd and strangely disappointing to me. While I was mulling over the why's and wherefore's of that, I was thinking about how I can vape starting at a low temp and really taste different flavours etc. and then a memory came to me of a review that Doc Bud wrote - on this site - for the Herbalizer vaporiser. Trust me folks - this is going somewhere (I hope). One of the things he described being able to do wth it, which he said gave him the most incredible medical experience he might've imagined possible (or some words to that effect) was the ability to set the device for various temperatures and have it stay there. He used the bag and the assist function to fill the bag with vapour at lower temps, closed off the bag and raised the temp to burn off some stuff he didn't want (which in his example was the THC) and then raised the temp again and used another bag to collect the CBD/N. I may have the details a bit off but it's the principal I'm wanting. WOUld it be possible to use this approach to diffuse and capture different terpenes and cannabinoids into oil seperately at different temperatures and then recombine them. Maybe that's already been talked about and tried before...
Doc's review where he describes this is here.
...just a few of my 2 cents...
Let me clarify something.
I took Canyon's question to mean: from this point forward will I benefit from more tests and results.
For me the answer is no. I have already benefited greatly from the methods followed and testing results posted
I've learned from the data that my olive oil decarbs and extractions work well.
That a second pass gets worth while additional cannabinoids. Running the first pass process at various time and temperatures doesn't change this outcome. I've tested them all in my cannabis kitchen.
That the leftovers contain sufficient cannabinoids to make them useful as a constant intake method. I dont mind the taste at all. Ive been doing the 2nd run with coconut oil which makes for tasty oil, and tasty bud crumble. I use this for many things.
My needs have all been met by the methods, testing, lab results explained herein.
So my opinion is that additional tests and results wont help me.
There are so many variables, including lack of precision in the lab testing itself, that having these detailed profiles isn't that helpful or necessary.
For me
And then there is the roots
