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Hey, Auggie, can you advise me on my current grow. Please look and tell me how to make my grow yield the most. Thanks in advance!All due respect, but, I have to disagree ...
One plant per sq foot is a SOG - - - not a SCROG. A sea of green is one plant per sq foot, started to flower as a clone. You are going for ONE large cola per plant.
A SCROG is one plant per 10 sq feet or so. I use six plants on a 4 x 8 table. And a purist Scrog Grower would wrinkle their nose at that many.
There are many and detailed instructions on a scrog. Only a few are listed below:
1) One plant per 10 sq feet.
2) Need a genetic that is predisposed to side branching. My fav is C99 Cindy.
3) Use wire mesh, not cloth. Cloth will get grown into the buds, wire won't. And you won't cut it when pruning. I use wire fencing 2" x 4".
4) Train the branches to fill in bare areas. Keep the big fan leaves cut off (pruning).
5) Cut all vegetation off more than 4" below the screen.
6) Veg until 75% of the screen is filled, then flip to flower. Don't fill it to 100% then flip.
There is SO much more to know. But, this is THE way to grow indoors in my not-so-humble opinion. I run three 4 x 8 tables with 3600 watts over them and produce over 1 gram per watt consistently.
Do a lot of research here, and other places before you start this project. There is a lot of very useful info on line on this subject and there's no point in me doing it again.
I encourage you to do this, but I also warn you to do your homework before you do. Learn the difference between a SOG and a SCROG.
~ Auggie ~
I have to concur.All due respect, but, I have to disagree ...
One plant per sq foot is a SOG - - - not a SCROG. A sea of green is one plant per sq foot, started to flower as a clone. You are going for ONE large cola per plant.
A SCROG is one plant per 10 sq feet or so. I use six plants on a 4 x 8 table. And a purist Scrog Grower would wrinkle their nose at that many.
There are many and detailed instructions on a scrog. Only a few are listed below:
1) One plant per 10 sq feet.
2) Need a genetic that is predisposed to side branching. My fav is C99 Cindy.
3) Use wire mesh, not cloth. Cloth will get grown into the buds, wire won't. And you won't cut it when pruning. I use wire fencing 2" x 4".
4) Train the branches to fill in bare areas. Keep the big fan leaves cut off (pruning).
5) Cut all vegetation off more than 4" below the screen.
6) Veg until 75% of the screen is filled, then flip to flower. Don't fill it to 100% then flip.
There is SO much more to know. But, this is THE way to grow indoors in my not-so-humble opinion. I run three 4 x 8 tables with 3600 watts over them and produce over 1 gram per watt consistently.
Do a lot of research here, and other places before you start this project. There is a lot of very useful info on line on this subject and there's no point in me doing it again.
I encourage you to do this, but I also warn you to do your homework before you do. Learn the difference between a SOG and a SCROG.
~ Auggie ~
It seems there are as many scrog-types as there are people. I personally think one should be aiming for colas as long as on a non-scrogged plant.To SCROG was one of the best decisions I made. This is my first grow.
I read here on this thread that some people are actually "tying" the plants down to the top of the scrog. This seems like more work with simmilar results. I "tuck" under the net and find it quick and easy. To each their own.
I believe that would all depend on the grower's patience. Once the scrog is filled out with enough room for stretch It would need to be left alone for another two weeks or so in order for all the additional tops to grow up to the desired height above the scrog before switching to flower in order to obtain longer colas. This is why some people use two scrog's. One seems to space and spread out the plant during veg and the second is placed down over the colas during early flower to help support the weight as the colas bulk up.It seems there are as many scrog-types as there are people. I personally think one should be aiming for colas as long as on a non-scrogged plant.
The way I'm seeing scrog, is that it is a means for a plant to grow to its full size indoors. I haven't done one yet but I've grown several normally. The part I''m having trouble visualizing is how stretch goes under scrog and maximizing the cola length. The cola really starts when the branches start alternating, if I remember correctly in a normal grow, so I would be aiming to get the start of the alternating branches at net level. Any thoughts about that?I believe that would all depend on the grower's patience. Once the scrog is filled out with enough room for stretch It would need to be left alone for another two weeks or so in order for all the additional tops to grow up to the desired height above the scrog before switching to flower in order to obtain longer colas. This is why some people use two scrog's. One seems to space and spread out the plant during veg and the second is placed down over the colas during early flower to help support the weight as the colas bulk up.
The way I'm seeing scrog, is that it is a means for a plant to grow to its full size indoors. I haven't done one yet but I've grown several normally. The part I''m having trouble visualizing is how stretch goes under scrog and maximizing the cola length. The cola really starts when the branches start alternating, if I remember correctly in a normal grow, so I would be aiming to get the start of the alternating branches at net level. Any thoughts about that?
As far as patience goes, I want the plant to realise its potential and will veg it until it clearly wants to flower, so my time is open. The plant I've started is a cross between Orange Bud and California Orange.
Is that 315w a CMH light?Yes, I would agree that a scrog is probably well utilized if placed close to where the alternating nodes begin. At least it sounds good in theory. I decided tonight that I will not put a scrog on this next grow. I started hand training them tonight. If I don't see the desired results starting by the end of the week I will resort to the scrog. It served me 400 grams with 315 watts of light last grow so I don't mind doing that again.