Vulx
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While we are certainly shocked by the outcome so far, we are very glad that @InTheShed is providing this side by side grow!
It won't be the last - we've seen far too many great results to stop at one bad trial on this forum - but we are working hard to get to the bottom of what's going on!
Here's a few things we are looking at now:
1. The yellowing of the leaves is not more intense at the bottom of the plant (at least it looks that way in the photos). This is not indicative of a N shortage, however it could be a sign of other problems - nutrient burn, pH imbalance, or lockout.
Although I don't recommend watering to runoff with Vulx normally, one way to check for nutrient lockout is to measure the pH of water before it goes into the soil, and then measure the pH of the runoff. "Slipping" - or any large variance - will let you know you've got some issues there. Either way, knowing the pH of everything would go a long way to proper diagnosis.
2. The lack of root growth in the beginning phase is something I have literally never seen - generally Vulx will make root growth explode in young plants. I posted a photo of a customer using it on a CBD strain and she's having great results in the early stage root growth more in line with what we expect. Certainly surprising to see the roots on this plant doing so poorly in comparison.
3. Chloramine does get absorbed into/carried by Vulx - so it's possible that this is an issue. The vitamin C "hack" will definitely work to neutralize chloramine. Charcoal filters will also dechlorinate chloramines but you need to run the water through the filter slowly and then you have free flowing Ammonia (NH3) which often ionizes into NH4+ in pH <~7. I'd wager most people would rather use vitamin C (ascorbic acid).
4. There are a lot of burnt tips! If the N deficiency was bad enough to cause this - the leaves would be much more yellow and there would be a pile of the dead ones on the soil.
I'd troubleshoot this way:
1. Check pH of water before watering and as runoff and compare numbers.
2. If that doesn't give any insight - try watering the plant with water that has been treated with vitamin c.
3. If that doesn't work - just feed the plant a tad more and see if the condition improves!
While we look forward to other successful side-by-sides, we really want to make the product work for InTheShed by going through all the issues and finding the proper solution. We really don't like to see unhappy plants - so let's make her happy!
It won't be the last - we've seen far too many great results to stop at one bad trial on this forum - but we are working hard to get to the bottom of what's going on!
Here's a few things we are looking at now:
1. The yellowing of the leaves is not more intense at the bottom of the plant (at least it looks that way in the photos). This is not indicative of a N shortage, however it could be a sign of other problems - nutrient burn, pH imbalance, or lockout.
Although I don't recommend watering to runoff with Vulx normally, one way to check for nutrient lockout is to measure the pH of water before it goes into the soil, and then measure the pH of the runoff. "Slipping" - or any large variance - will let you know you've got some issues there. Either way, knowing the pH of everything would go a long way to proper diagnosis.
2. The lack of root growth in the beginning phase is something I have literally never seen - generally Vulx will make root growth explode in young plants. I posted a photo of a customer using it on a CBD strain and she's having great results in the early stage root growth more in line with what we expect. Certainly surprising to see the roots on this plant doing so poorly in comparison.
3. Chloramine does get absorbed into/carried by Vulx - so it's possible that this is an issue. The vitamin C "hack" will definitely work to neutralize chloramine. Charcoal filters will also dechlorinate chloramines but you need to run the water through the filter slowly and then you have free flowing Ammonia (NH3) which often ionizes into NH4+ in pH <~7. I'd wager most people would rather use vitamin C (ascorbic acid).
4. There are a lot of burnt tips! If the N deficiency was bad enough to cause this - the leaves would be much more yellow and there would be a pile of the dead ones on the soil.
I'd troubleshoot this way:
1. Check pH of water before watering and as runoff and compare numbers.
2. If that doesn't give any insight - try watering the plant with water that has been treated with vitamin c.
3. If that doesn't work - just feed the plant a tad more and see if the condition improves!
While we look forward to other successful side-by-sides, we really want to make the product work for InTheShed by going through all the issues and finding the proper solution. We really don't like to see unhappy plants - so let's make her happy!
). Both of these pots are dry top to bottom before they get watered (you can see the roots in 
