It's not the chief concern but it's nice to see a plant go all out! They're amazing when they go all boy oy yoy! growing.
Organic Biscotti 2.0, The Plug By Fudo
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Oh yeah, it’s amazing to see what good genetics in good soil can do.
Is stretch when LOS first gets tested, or does that come deeper in flower? Stretch growth is traditionally lighter but if the bottoms are lighter as well, the N in the cal-mag should be able to help keep them green.
Should we go back to Shorty?
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Thanks for the info Shed, I guess I never noticed but yeah the bottoms are still dark green.
Basically yes, the soil doesn’t get stressed till flower. This is I think the 3rd run on this batch. With each successive run the soil carries them deeper into flower. I’ve been using less tea and more Recharge out of shear laziness but I’m using less of that and later too. Cal-mag is always an issue. Oyster shell and stuff is ok but never fast enough. I just read Revs book and his soil is 10yrs old and still supplements cal-mag. I mix it pretty hot so I could probably get by with just Recharge. I always use Terpinator and boiled banana peals because why not?
Yeah, I think we should go back to shortie. Last time we messed with her she got pissed and took right off.
Rev is firm in using dolomite lime in his recipe. Out of ignorance I wasn't and have mag issues. I mixed up the new batch with it so I hope for a different outcome. Way more mag in dolomite. Are you using dolomite lime in your mix?Thanks for the info Shed, I guess I never noticed but yeah the bottoms are still dark green.
Basically yes, the soil doesn’t get stressed till flower. This is I think the 3rd run on this batch. With each successive run the soil carries them deeper into flower. I’ve been using less tea and more Recharge out of shear laziness but I’m using less of that and later too. Cal-mag is always an issue. Oyster shell and stuff is ok but never fast enough. I just read Revs book and his soil is 10yrs old and still supplements cal-mag. I mix it pretty hot so I could probably get by with just Recharge. I always use Terpinator and boiled banana peals because why not?
Yeah, I think we should go back to shortie. Last time we messed with her she got pissed and took right off.
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I am, but I didn’t use a lot on the re-amend, I was worried about ph. I’m not real scientific about it. I basically read the NPK levels and substitute more of one for the other if I don’t have it. I’ve been adding amendments as I go. For instance, this round I added Azomite.
Do you use his exact recipe? Next round, I’m going to try and be a little more careful about the mix. I’m sure increasing the lime has gotta help right?
I do try to use the recipe to a T. I had an issue with understanding all the terms like prilled, ground, powdered, pulverized, etc., and thinking all lime was the same threw a curve my way. I knew nothing about this before I got the book so "coming to terms" has a real meaning to it!
Hehe, well if it's dolomite it will help with mag def things and long term soil ph tempering. If calcedic(sp?) it works a little differently. I think if the Mulders chart says it's ok, it's ok. I just don't know how to read the chart in a detailed way.
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Next batch I mix will be closer to his recipe for sure. I’m adding stuff as I find it concentrating on the important stuff. No matter what I do it definitely gets better with age.
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Lol, I just stared at this thing for 10 mins. There’s gotta be an easier way to explain it.Hehe, well if it's dolomite it will help with mag def things and long term soil ph tempering. If calcedic(sp?) it works a little differently. I think if the Mulders chart says it's ok, it's ok. I just don't know how to read the chart in a detailed way.
Like minds! It's simple I'm sure, but we need the key! If I stare at it long enough I can almost get it is what I tell myself. Someday!Lol, I just stared at this thing for 10 mins. There’s gotta be an easier way to explain it.
Plants tell me they love it!
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Today was water day. 10 gal pure water split between them plus 10ml each cal-mag. I was thinking when I woke up I would be wanting to use Recharge because to me they looked a shade lighter the previous day. Slow intake? Not enough microbe? I’m seeing things?. They’re drinking more and sucked up what little run-off there was quickly.
When I saw the plants I changed my mind and skipped the Recharge. A nights rest made a difference. They’re a deeper shade of green and the plants grew enough to need spreading out.
So that’s the only other thing I did besides raising the lights. I pulled them up way over the plants and turned the panels to 100% and the cobs to 60-70%. Still have some power left with those but they get warm. It’s 77F now and I don’t want to mess with it. They’re getting between 700-870 umols with plenty of room to stretch into the light. Have a great weekend.
. They’re drinking more and sucked up what little run-off there was quickly.When I saw the plants I changed my mind and skipped the Recharge. A nights rest made a difference. They’re a deeper shade of green and the plants grew enough to need spreading out.
So that’s the only other thing I did besides raising the lights. I pulled them up way over the plants and turned the panels to 100% and the cobs to 60-70%. Still have some power left with those but they get warm. It’s 77F now and I don’t want to mess with it. They’re getting between 700-870 umols with plenty of room to stretch into the light. Have a great weekend.
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I’ve been very busy lately and haven’t been keeping track of the time very well. I’m calling today day 3 of flower. I flipped them on 10-31 and haven’t really been watching them closely. I guess I gotta call it close enough. They’re starting to stretch out a bit. I have no patience so I adjusted the lights to just below 900 umols. We’ll see what they look like later.
Day 3 of flower
Day 3 of flower
Congrats on the start of pistils Fudo! They look like a million bucks in there. And you can always add epsom salts for Mg (and S as well). I think the basic mix is 1 Tbs/gallon every water. Might help clear up the yellowing between the veins in the most recent pics of that's what they're asking for.
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Ah I see, thanks Shed! Todays a water day so do you think that will help more than cal-mag? Should I use both to get the sulfur or just the epsom?
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Girls were thirsty. Per Dr Sheds instructions, I gave them 1tbs epsom per gallon. I also only gave them 5ml cal-mag to go with it. 11 gallons split between them. I love my new addition of wood chips and loosing the plant risers. They both go good with my shxtty watering practices. The wood helps spread the water more evenly and the pots wick up from the trays, no waste and even water distribution at the bottom of the pots.
They look pretty good, but I do see a hint of yellow in some. Take a look.
They look pretty good, but I do see a hint of yellow in some. Take a look.
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The more I look the more yellow I see. Maybe phosphorus deficiency to boot? Might be time for some recharge. Probably didn’t brew the tea long enough either. See, this is why you don’t cut corners.
I was suggesting the epsom because I was seeing some intervein yellowing in a close-up of the tops. Can't tell if you still need Ca anywhere, but I don't think I would go with full-strength on both at the same time.
And I always give new growth a week to get the color right before worrying about deficiencies, especially during stretch.
And I always give new growth a week to get the color right before worrying about deficiencies, especially during stretch.
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Right on, I understood what you were saying, it’s definitely there. I thought it was light reflection at 1st… They did look a little greener a few hours after I watered…I was thinking P deficiency because I had that issue before. Time to get the deficiency pics out and study up, it gets confusing, thanks for the help.
They’re getting Recharge next watering for sure. I’m certain there’s enough amendments in there, it’s pretty hot.
They’re getting Recharge next watering for sure. I’m certain there’s enough amendments in there, it’s pretty hot.
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