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Day 13 of 12/12
Nutrients and water change!
Nutrients and water change!
WestHippie’s 420 OG Hydro 1000 Watt MH/HPS
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Day 13
Outside temp 86 humidity 55% SSE 15 mph
Building temp 73 humidity 63%
Tent temp 78.3 humidity 62%
Canopy temp 81
Water temp 66.2
TDS 1184 ppm 100% Advanced Nutrients
Week 3 Nutrients
Connoisseur a&b 304 mL each
Big Bud 152 mL
B-52 152 mL
Nirvana. 152 mL
Sensizym. 152 mL
Bud Candy 152 mL
Rhino Skin. 152 mL
Bud X Factor. 76 mL
Magical. 60 mL
URB 200 mL
Z7 part a&b 10 mL
Ph 5.45 always with Fresh 20 gallons of ro water and nutrients from AN
Outside temp 86 humidity 55% SSE 15 mph
Building temp 73 humidity 63%
Tent temp 78.3 humidity 62%
Canopy temp 81
Water temp 66.2
TDS 1184 ppm 100% Advanced Nutrients
Week 3 Nutrients
Connoisseur a&b 304 mL each
Big Bud 152 mL
B-52 152 mL
Nirvana. 152 mL
Sensizym. 152 mL
Bud Candy 152 mL
Rhino Skin. 152 mL
Bud X Factor. 76 mL
Magical. 60 mL
URB 200 mL
Z7 part a&b 10 mL
Ph 5.45 always with Fresh 20 gallons of ro water and nutrients from AN
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Day 14 of 12/12
Outside temp 77 humidity 82% S 7 mph
Building temp 70.2 humidity 76%
Tent temp 77.4 humidity 68%
Canopy temp 79.7
Water temp 68.7 down 2 gallons Falling
TDS 1028 ppm was 1184 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
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Outside temp 77 humidity 82% S 7 mph
Building temp 70.2 humidity 76%
Tent temp 77.4 humidity 68%
Canopy temp 79.7
Water temp 68.7 down 2 gallons Falling
TDS 1028 ppm was 1184 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
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Skybound
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Subbed, I'll go back and read about your setup soon.
looking real good 
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Day 15 of 12/12
Noticed a change in the leaf tips , too much nutrients. Will use 75% next change !
Outside temp 79 humidity 86% SSE 9 mph chance of rain 80%
Building temp 72 humidity 78%
Tent temp 76.6 humidity 72%
Canopy temp 81.8 canopy is 13” to the light no fading this time so I’ll leave it alone . Tallest bud is 32” from the tray .
Water temp 70.1 down 2 gallons Falling
TDS 951 ppm was 1028 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
Dropped the 4’x4’ net in the 5’x5’ tent , I can shift it in four directions. I can shift it left or right , forward or backwards lay those tops where I want them !
Noticed a change in the leaf tips , too much nutrients. Will use 75% next change !
Outside temp 79 humidity 86% SSE 9 mph chance of rain 80%
Building temp 72 humidity 78%
Tent temp 76.6 humidity 72%
Canopy temp 81.8 canopy is 13” to the light no fading this time so I’ll leave it alone . Tallest bud is 32” from the tray .
Water temp 70.1 down 2 gallons Falling
TDS 951 ppm was 1028 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 Static
Dropped the 4’x4’ net in the 5’x5’ tent , I can shift it in four directions. I can shift it left or right , forward or backwards lay those tops where I want them !
She's filled the tent really fast!
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Day 16 of 12/12
Outside temp 71 humidity 87% N 11 mph
Building temp 68.6 humidity 77 %
Tent temp 75.6 humidity 72%
Canopy temp 78
Water temp 66.7 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 908 ppm was 951 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 needs to come up for the P & Mg 5.8
More pics today , if these girls keep growing like they are I’ll have 6” buds in 21 days .
Outside temp 71 humidity 87% N 11 mph
Building temp 68.6 humidity 77 %
Tent temp 75.6 humidity 72%
Canopy temp 78
Water temp 66.7 down 2+ gallons Falling
TDS 908 ppm was 951 ppm Falling
Ph 5.5 needs to come up for the P & Mg 5.8
More pics today , if these girls keep growing like they are I’ll have 6” buds in 21 days .
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The two bottom pics show heat stress , heading back out to give it a lux treatment. Lux needs to be 78k or less don’t want to run Co2 so I’ll raise the light ! Don’t need Co2 the way these are growing! The question I going to keep asking is it the light or the URB making my last two grows behind the times on growth !
Looking good West. Getting back to the other post about disrupting them during the stretch. Last week I got tutored in the reason not to do any defoliating during this time. It's in the 21 days or so that hormones are setting the buddage up in the plant. If we cut it short (by shocking it) with taking a lot of leaves and branches, then the hormones stop and the potential for future bud weight decreases. Top shelf growers came in to agree and now I do too (yes I trust easily).
So the outcome to my situation was to get things done after the stretch for best results. That was to mostly take branches that wont make it to the bud zone, and light defoliation for air flow to the mid section and for light onto bud sites.
I have grown heavy defoliation grows several times but not this time. I guess I feel it's one way or the other. For a heavy defoliated grow I think it needs to start in early veg and continued twice to 2 weeks before flip then 21 days later and I choose to pick one leaf here and there daily through flower.
So the outcome to my situation was to get things done after the stretch for best results. That was to mostly take branches that wont make it to the bud zone, and light defoliation for air flow to the mid section and for light onto bud sites.
I have grown heavy defoliation grows several times but not this time. I guess I feel it's one way or the other. For a heavy defoliated grow I think it needs to start in early veg and continued twice to 2 weeks before flip then 21 days later and I choose to pick one leaf here and there daily through flower.
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Since I messed up in veg , everything got away from me with the last grow being ready early . I only pulled 14 clones off in veg is all I’ve done ! You know me , you’ve been here since I started to watch my screw ups ! Day 21 I will just open bud sites this time . Thanks for that information Stoneotter I got to watch you do this in your completed grow that you did a super job with !
I've always read 21 days but my question is this: is that just an average time when stretch is over? Indicas tend to stop stretching sooner than sativas, but is it 21 days for all? I try to wait for stretch to finish regardless of how many days that is.
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Yes. I observe that all senses of time we use in our grows are very loose and negotiable. Sometimes I screw up my own sequence and put something into bloom that's too big, then find myself needing to halt the stretch one week into it, or if I put one in that didn't veg for long enough, I don't touch the plant for 24-27 days into 12/12 just to milk every last drop of growth spurt.
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I was reading 21-28 days before the stretch is done ! I’m looking at a measuring tape daily, and now a lux meter keeping the canopy at 78k .Thanks for the info @InTheShed
It never occurred to me that I could halt stretch...good to know!
I have to try to remember to measure when I flip. Maybe I'll put a tape measure next to the timer!
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Well while your InTheShed you have to remember I’m still in the tool shed with every measuring devices available for maintenance electricians and mechanics!
I could be standing next to a rack of everything from micrometers to folding rulers to laser measuring thingys and none of it would matter if I don't remember I'm supposed to measure before I flip!
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Didn’t do me any good to measure at flip , I was still doing bondage on the girls .
Started out with autos, so I haven't had to deal with flipping yet, But my next grow will be Tangerine Dream and Jack Herer fems so I find this information useful.
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