My Continuous Auto Closet Grow - Pink Salad!

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Cool stuff we have a lot of similar thoughts on diy and stuff, I was going to suggest 3 liter pop bottle hempys I had good luck with autos in them I don't transplant they stay there from seed and a re large enough I was getting 1/2 to 1 oz per cream caramel auto and himalaya blue diesel autos I used Coco with pearlite and AZOMITE and Epsoma garden lime, hell I still do that stuff just been going with much bigger plants to keep plant count down, I've been wanting to do some autos again I have bunches of seeds I've bred several Crosses I want to test,, anyway I will sub and follow your adventure I love autos and non typical thinking ,I have avoided the nute game for the most part, but I love high brix growing, something I need to try with autos till later

 

[Cerdito]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

I really like your common sense aproach to growing. No need for all the labelled products (no need when youa have your own LABELLER! lol) just simple proper garden sense.

Paper pot is genius thinking. All the benefits of a little beer cup, with none of the drawbacks.

Oh, and the things you got from a restaurant appear to be defrosting trays If I've worked in enough shitty restaurants to be familiar with them.

Really cool work - reps.

x

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Cool stuff we have a lot of similar thoughts on diy and stuff, I was going to suggest 3 liter pop bottle hempys I had good luck with autos in them I don't transplant they stay there from seed and a re large enough I was getting 1/2 to 1 oz per cream caramel auto and himalaya blue diesel autos I used Coco with pearlite and AZOMITE and Epsoma garden lime, hell I still do that stuff just been going with much bigger plants to keep plant count down, I've been wanting to do some autos again I have bunches of seeds I've bred several Crosses I want to test,, anyway I will sub and follow your adventure I love autos and non typical thinking ,I have avoided the nute game for the most part, but I love high brix growing, something I need to try with autos till later

I'd never heard of High Brix before. Thanks! I always enjoy studying grow techniques. I'll be reading more about it now!!
Thanks for subscribing. I've done the same.

I really like your common sense aproach to growing. No need for all the labelled products (no need when youa have your own LABELLER! lol) just simple proper garden sense.

Paper pot is genius thinking. All the benefits of a little beer cup, with none of the drawbacks.

Oh, and the things you got from a restaurant appear to be defrosting trays If I've worked in enough shitty restaurants to be familiar with them.

Really cool work - reps.

x

Thanks for subscribing, and the reps. I'm still not sure what reps are, but I guess they're the little green blocks? People award them for good advice maybe? I don't know how to give them out myself yet. Thanks a bunch!!

 

[Cerdito]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Thats the little star at the left of the bottom of a post by a user - in between ''blog this post'' and the hazard triangle. I'm new here too, and have only just been taught the way - and yes - it is the green block line under your user name

Hope that explains it a little.

xx

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Yay my new water filter came today, and it was a super easy install.

I resisted spending more money on my project,
but felt this had a added benefit of improving my drinking water.

The unit is not a top of the line RO system, but rather a cheapo Filtrete Under-Sink model.

Total cost was about 40 bucks. They are on amazon if you wish to check it out. Model #3US-PS01.

This unit has received 152 five star amazon reviews, and 47 four star!

I wanted to improve my water, but don't feel it's necessary to to spend the money on a fully RO system.

Because I'm always seeing RO users adding back 50% tap water to stabilize PH problems,
because tap water has PH buffering properties.

I've come to the conclusion that my tap water is pretty bad tho, so it's worth the extra money for me,
and my ladies!

The filter lasts six months filtering close to 11 gallons a day at 5 microns.

It provides ENHANCED reduction of chlorine taste & odor, sand, sediment, rust, and soil.

In other words it doesn't get it all out, but improves it a great deal.

I liked it because it installs inline, and uses your regular faucet.

Replacement filters are only 31 bucks every six months.

So this first year will have the total cost of about 6.50 a month.

Inexpensive, but not some britta carbon filter tho. This thing is as big as my forearm.

This is the Advanced Water Filtration model that can also remove parasitic cysts.

And that sounds pretty good to me!

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Thats the little star at the left of the bottom of a post by a user - in between ''blog this post'' and the hazard triangle. I'm new here too, and have only just been taught the way - and yes - it is the green block line under your user name

Hope that explains it a little.

xx

Thanks you now have received my first rep points given ever!

 

[Coffeeholic]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Hi toker.

You have some kool tips here. Thanks.

I have subscribed to your journal and looking forward to follow your growing.

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Hi toker.

You have some kool tips here. Thanks.

I have subscribed to your journal and looking forward to follow your growing.

Hi Coffeeholic!

Thanks buddy!! I'm glad you like some of the things you see. I'm really not doing anything new tho. I've been reading cannabis forums, and regular gardening forums, and putting ideas together that I like, and seem to be low cost alternatives. Mostly because I'm a cheapskate. Honestly some of this might not work out. Still wondering about the newspaper pots, and how well my new water filter will work, but I feel pretty positive about things. Time will tell. Thanks for subscribing.

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Hi everyone!

People seem to be interested in my newspots, and I've been really curious myself how it's working out.

So I decided to transplant a few early just to see how they hold up.

I moved six into their final pots, (Rose buckets) and they seem to be working out very well.

The first one I transplanted paper, and all, but on the second I tried removing the paper.

After the paper tore off easy, and the coco held together so well I did it to all the rest.

The ones that turn out to be males I'll just remove as discovered.

Twenty two remain in the walmart tote awaiting sexing, and this early transplant was strictly experimental.

This one was pretty tall, so I buried it a little deeper.

 

[J189RFC]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

I am totally impressed. Super organized, well thought out and meticulously executed. Bravo!

Looking forward to this new experiment I might give those newspaper cups a try! I use toilet paper rolls for beans and stuff but that is good

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

I am totally impressed. Super organized, well thought out and meticulously executed. Bravo!

Looking forward to this new experiment I might give those newspaper cups a try! I use toilet paper rolls for beans and stuff but that is good

Thanks! I'm going to keep posting updates for the newspots, and might add in making female seeds. Both methods might be good ways to start enough females. I like the way the coco held the pots shape even tho the roots hadn't fully grown through the coco. I think it can only get more sturdy. I'll know in about ten more days I guess.

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

im lazy i have an inline filter little bigger than that one more of a small house rv size unit with 18 months worth of filters i can even hook ot to a garden hose but im bad about buying goodies and not installing them for weeks to years lol but i gota do some plumbing work soon so i think i'll get the adapters i need and finally install it i should at least use it to fill my water storage for the garden, im sure your ladies will love the clean juice!

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

im lazy i have an inline filter little bigger than that one more of a small house rv size unit with 18 months worth of filters i can even hook ot to a garden hose but im bad about buying goodies and not installing them for weeks to years lol but i gota do some plumbing work soon so i think i'll get the adapters i need and finally install it i should at least use it to fill my water storage for the garden, im sure your ladies will love the clean juice!

I'm not sure how much it will help, but I figure I can't lose because it's also going to improve my drinking water. So it kinda made it an easy decision.

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

How to make feminized seeds Colloidal silver method by 420magazine member BigIrishDoode

ok im gonna walk you thru my method of making colloidal silver that can be used for many purposes including making feminized seed from virtually any female cannabis plant, i have been making CS for many years after getting frustrated with the relatively high cost of a small amount that goes really quickly,,with this info you can create many gallons of CS for the cost of just 1 bottle of CS from perhaps ebay, and you may even have all the items laying around home!
or from radio shack
ok heres the list of "ingredients"
a small project box (optional)
3 9-volt batteries
3 9 volt connectors harvested from old gadgets,or from radio shack
1 bamboo skewer (or similar item)
2-4 insulated alligator clips
a foot or so of heavy speaker wire
matching plug and receptacle
6-8 inches pure 99% silver jewelers wire or 2 troy oz 99.99% silver
distilled water
a light proof glass jar, masons quart jars work well
ok there are 2 different ways to make this device with 9-volt batteries
the method i have pictured and another (even more simple) i will explain as i go, i use this one because i have it
heres a pic of the CS maker

and a pic of the guts

i built this box this way because i had the stuff to do it but it does not need to be this detailed
it is possible to just plug the 3 9volts into each other one on top pointed down and the other 2 connected to it, and taped tightly together with electrical tape,due to the standard 9volt connectors fitting into each other
* never short circuit only 2 9volts together as they will likely explode* but if you connect 3 in a chain you just get 27 volts same as they are wired in my box ,
if done this way you dont need the box,and plug/plug receptacle, just an alligator clip on each end of the wire 4 total and connect to the 2 remaining
exposed 9-volt terminals to the 2 silver wires or troy ozs
if you use troy oz you will need to drill a small hole in the corner of each one to accommodate suspending them in the water with the skewer


on another side note i happen to have a laboratory type power supply that adjusts the output from 0-50 volts and 0-2 amps DC and it also can make CS,

once you decide how involved you want to get with the power supply
you will need to boil the distilled water and put it in your lightproof jar
i wrapped aluminum foil around my jar,and then again with clear packing tape, light destroys CS
i fill the jar with cold distilled water then into a pot to boil ,the reasn for this step is to only boil the exact amount of water i need
after your jar is filled with boiling water *run hot tap water over only the outside of your jar to warm it up and avoid it shattering from the boiling water being poured in*
then suspend your pure silver over and about an inch or several inches into the distilled boiled water do not allow the silver pieces to touch each other or the sides of the jar connect the power supply
then wait if you have a ppm meter you can check every half hour till the desired ppm is reached in my case it took 2 hours to reach 60 ppm, (my batteries needed replacing and my water had cooled off alot before hand
normally it only takes 30-45 min to reach 50-60-ppm

you can also make it better and more stable if you happen to have an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner ,also commonly used for cleaning tattoo equipment, and dental tools, a small one can be had for 20-50 dollars from ebay, but it is not necessary if you will use all you make within a couple weeks to a month or even longer, if i didnt put it in the ultrasonic i just shake the living hell out of it and use it i dont feel it goes bad, just the silver particles tend to clump and settle on the glass
ok thats about it for now if you have further questions feel free to ask and i will do my best to answer
enjoy your CS for pennies on the dollar vs store bought
and have fun making those fem seeds




Alternative STS method not endorsed by BigIrishDoode

How to make feminized seeds STS method - Warning STS is highly toxic! Handle with care!


Preparation of Silver Thiosulfate Solution (STS):

First, a stock solution of 1.0L is made. It consists of two parts (A and B) that are initially mixed separately, each into 500ml of water, then blended together. Part A is ALWAYS mixed into part B while stirring rapidly. Use distilled water; tap water may cause precipitates to form.

Wear gloves while mixing and using these chemicals, and mix and use in a properly ventilated area. A mask will prevent the breathing of any dust, which is caustic. STS is colorless and odorless, and poses minimal health risks if used as described here. Note that silver nitrate and STS can cause brown stains upon drying, so spray over newspaper and avoid spilling.

Part A: 0.5 grams silver nitrate stirred into 500ml distilled water
Part B: 2.5 grams sodium thiosulfate (anhydrous) stirred into 500ml distilled water

The silver nitrate dissolves within 15 seconds. The sodium thiosulfate takes 30-45 seconds to dissolve.

The silver nitrate solution (part A, 500ml) is then mixed into the sodium thiosulfate solution (part B, 500ml) while stirring rapidly. The resulting blend is silver thiosulfate solution (STS).

This stock solution is then diluted at a ratio of 1:9 to make a working solution. For example, 100ml of stock STS is added to 900ml of distilled water. This is then sprayed on select female plants.

Both the stock STS and the working solution should be refrigerated after use, as well as the powdered chemicals, to avoid activity loss. Excess working solution can be safely poured down the drain after use (with ample running water) with negligible environmental impact. It's pretty cheap.

Each liter of stock STS will make ten 1-liter batches of working solution of STS.

This is then sprayed on selected female plants.


This formula is strong and this much STS can treat 15-20 mid-sized plants.


Application:

Wear gloves, and a mask!

The STS working solution is sprayed on select female plants until runoff. Do the spraying over newspaper in a separate area from the flower room. You probably won't smell anything, but ventilate anyway. You now have what I call a "F>M plant"; a female plant that will produce male flowers.

After the F>M plant dries move it into 12/12 immediately. This is usually done three to four weeks prior to the date that the target (to be pollinated) plants will be ready to pollinate. Response times may vary slightly depending upon the strain. More specific times can be determined by trial with your own individual strains. In our trials it took 26 days for the first pollen. 30-35 days seems optimum for planning purposes.

So, assuming that a target plant needs 3-4 weeks to produce fully mature seeds, a strain that takes 8 weeks to mature should be moved into flower at about the same time as the female>male plant. A target plant that finishes flowering in 6 weeks needs to be moved into flower later (10 days or so) so that it doesn't finish before the seeds can fully mature.

A seeded individual branch can be left to mature on a plant for a bit longer, while harvesting the other seedless buds if they finish first. Just leave enough leaves on for the plant for it to stay healthy.


Effects:

Within days I noticed a yellowing of the leaves on the F>M plants. This effect persisted for two weeks or so; after this they became green again, except for a few of the larger fans. The plants otherwise seemed healthy. No burning was observed. Growth stopped dead for the first ten days, and then resumed slowly. No stretch was ever seen. After two weeks the F>M plants were obviously forming male flower clusters. Not just a few clusters of balls, but complete male flower tops. One plant still formed some pistillate flowers, but overall it was predominantly male.

When the F>M plants look like they may soon open and release pollen, ( 3-1/2 to 4 weeks) move them from the main flower room into another unventilated room or closet with lighting on a 12/12 timer. Don't worry too much about watts per square foot; it will only be temporary.

When the pollen flies, move your target plants into the closet and pollinate.

A more controlled approach is to isolate the F>M plants in a third remote closet (no light is necessary in this one, as they are releasing pollen now and are nearly finished anyway). In this remote other closet the pollen is very carefully collected in a plastic produce bag or newspaper sleeve and then brought back to the lighted closet, where the target plants are now located. If this is done, be careful to not mix pollen types by letting the F>Ms dust each other. Avoid movement, or use yet another closet.

Take special care to not let pollen gather on the outside of this bag- a static charge is sometimes present. Drop small open clusters of blooms inside and then close the bag at the mouth and shake. Important: next, step outside and slowly release the excess air from the bag, collapsing it completely, so that pollen doesn't get released accidently. Point downwind; don't let it get on your hands or clothes.

This collapsed pollinated bag is now very carefully slipped over only one branch and is then tied off tightly at the mouth around the branch stem with a twist tie or tape, sealing the pollen inside. Let the bag inflate slightly with air again before sealing it off, so the branch can breathe. This technique keeps the entire plant from seeding. Agitate the bag a bit after tying it off to distribute the pollen. Don't forget to label the branch so you know which seeds are which. Other branches on this same plant can be hit with different pollen sources.

If no lighted closet is available, the plant can be moved back into the main room, but- be very careful, pollen is sneaky. After 4-5 days, the bag is gently removed and the plant completes it's flowering cycle.

Yet another method is to position the target plants in a non-ventilated lighted closet, and then collect pollen on a piece of mirror or glass. This is then carefully applied to the pistils of one pre-labeled branch by using a very fine watercolor paintbrush. Care is taken to not agitate the branch or the pollen. No sneezing. The plant needs to be in place first; moving it after pollination can shake pollen free and blow this technique.

Regardless of technique, at completion you will have feminized seeds. Let them dry for 2-4 weeks.

I've been thinking this over, and have decided I haven't been saving my old 32 oz bottle of colloidal silver just to throw it out now. I might as well try spraying a female, or two, and see what happens. If I can't get one to change sex because the colloidal silver has become to old I guess the worst that could happen is I'll have a female plant. I can always pull out some of my stored pollen, and use them to make more seeds. If I'm to buy something again it's likely I'll try the STS method. It has it's risks, but I plan to be careful. I'll be sure to start some new seeds in about 30 days just to have some fresh females to pollinate.

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

My 32 oz colloidal silver @ 60 ppm. I bought a 8 oz bottle of 240 ppm colloidal silver on amazon for 20 bucks. I bought a 32 oz budweiser just to get the 32 oz dark bottle really, but I did drink it. haha. I cleaned out the bottle, and poured the 8 oz colloidal silver into the clean bottle, then filled the bottle with distilled water, and volla! 32 oz's of 60 ppm colloidal silver!

This bottle may be about 7 months old. But I've keep it cool, and in the dark. Hopefully it's got some umph! I'm going to try it on a plant, or two this grow, and see if I can make female pollen.

Want to get some? Search amazon for "Colloidal Silver Ultra 240 ppm 8 Oz" Only 20 bucks!!!

If it works I don't care if every plant gets seeded! The more the better!!

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

I have had CS sit for a year and still make male flowers, I have no doubt it Will still work , I'll stick to good ol' CS it works,I don't have to but anything, sure it requires a little more effort but I go visit my girls at least once a day anyway and spraying once a day will do the trick with 10ppm CS takes a little longer ,but no damaged leaves or stunted growth, that sts method raised alarm flags in me,a gut reaction ,I go with my gut always ,I'm interested is seeing you do it if you choose to, I look at it like product A you can drink and bathe in if you like, has many uses and relatively non toxic,, product B you need hazmat gear to handle! Is toxic! Has no other use i know of,,Both create the same result, so for me the choice is simple A all the way
Doode your making me want to pop some autos lol I have 4 Crosses I have not yet tested yet...

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Yeah I read on a few other forums about getting the male pods, but not opening as flowers with the CS method, and the few users who've done both methods say STS has more of a reliable result. The spraying only once is kinda just a bonus in my thinking. I've got this CS already tho, so why not try it. I feel even better about it now that you said it will probably work. Thanks!

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

I have a cross I call blue caramel (himalaya blue diesel auto X cream caramel auto) and a cross of cream caramel auto X mi-5 I call mi-caramel, and one I call super blue auto diesel, (hbd X super auto sativa) and a few fem cream caramels I made with CS I really like cream caramel auto it has a higher CBD than normal so you get this great body effect while still being really potent and it's a good yeilder I usually get 1oz per plant and it smells exactly like a freshly opened box of fruity pebbles, yup I think I need to grow some autos dammit man! Lol

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Yeah I read on a few other forums about getting the male pods, but not opening as flowers with the CS method, and the few users who've done both methods say STS has more of a reliable result. The spraying only once is kinda just a bonus in my thinking. I've got this CS already tho, so why not try it. I feel even better about it now that you said it will probably work. Thanks!

Seriously It does not go bad unless you stored it very poorly but kept cool and in the dark there should be no problem, and 60ppm is kinda on the high side in my book so even if it lost some potency it should work fine, sometimes the nanners don't open ,2 things to remedy that remove them and crush and remove husks with a fine mesh strainer,or spray them a bit more in the beginning when your first treating,I will spray a few more times after I see the male flowers forming, I feel that's the reason they have a hard time opening is they needed a skosh more silver, I'm gonna be doing some og kush fem beans soon so I can store that one for later and work with some other, oh and some g.s.cookies too

 

[toker69]

Re: My continuous auto closet grow. Pink salad!

Yeah I just have two strains. Pink Salad, and my own cross of Pink Salad, and Royal Bluematic. My friend gave me one freebie he got of the Royal Bluematic. He wasn't interested in autos, so I was happy to get it. The pink Salad is an extremely hardy strain, and seems to like nutes, and does good even with my bad water. The Royal Bluematic was supposed to be similar in structure to the pink salad, but grew into a multi cola branched 3 foot monster. I netted a huge bag of seeds from it. Everything I've grown from those seeds has been much smaller. Back to around two feet, but has extra branching colas. One day I'll get some more strains going. I just hate ordering seeds. The cost is ridiculous!!