Bassman's 6th - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Kush

[CrypticSteel]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Loving this grow, great lookin ladies man. Been growing for some years, but all outside/soil and was looking to DIY up something like yours for a hydro grow. You have a link to a more detailed explanation of your system, perhaps a diagram or something?

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

I'll have to see if I detailed anything on building the system. But running errands now so it'll have to be later. Remind me if I don't do it in the next 24 hrs. Or pm me too. I'd be happy to share what I can. You can also lay out some of your parameters like sq ft, lighting, etc and maybe we can come up with reasonable measures and everything.

 

[CrypticSteel]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

No hurry man. I was hoping you had detailed the building of it in a previous grow or something and could just link. I can figure out the measurements and stuff to make it fit the room. I would be grateful for just an explanation/ diagram of the water flow around the system.

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Check out the following link to grow #4. Bassman Strips The Kosher Kush! Hi-Defoliation - DWC-RDWC - 1K Watts Of Madness!

Granted that's an assembled running pic before plants were transplanted. But to give you the details:

The bucket with the lid and 3/4" tubing running into it is the main res. It's only a 5 gal bucket. I'm never gone 24 hours so that's all I need.

At the bottom of the res are two outlets with 1.5" pvc. Uniseals are installed into holes drilled into the sides of the bucket. When using uniseals, it's imperative to drill the holes perfectly square and round. Then deburr with an exacto knife very carefully and cleanly. When cutting the pvc, also deburr the edges, rounding them with a hand file. It doesnt take much. Make sure the uniseals are installed flush to the bucket and you hear them "snap" into place.

Lubricate the pvc and uniseals with tons of window cleaner (windex) when ready for installation. Try to push them in to proper length on first attempt as they are a bear to adjust. The windex will evaporate fast. Cut lengths of pvc don't need to be perfect and probably shouldn't be. This allows you to fudge during installation.

Use regular PVC pipe glue at elbows and joints to glue and seal. Be liberal with it but use clean, dry, pvc.

At the far end, you'll notice a "T" with a red handled shutoff valve. Thats a 1.5" - 3/4" T. We use this taper down to a threaded 3/4" fitting then hose clamp 3/4" tubing. This reduction in size prevents cavitation and air locks in the system which could ruin a pump.

You see on the floor, right along side the res bucket and the left full bucket a pump. I use a 396 gph submersible pump to pump out of the system, into a 1/10hp water chiller, set to 54-55f. This maintains 57.6f water temps and you'll never get root rot with those temps.

The pump feeds the chiller and back to the main res. This creates a very nice flow through the entire system. Large pvc prevents roots from clogging and slowing the flow which tends to happen with 3/4" hose. This also keeps nutrients mixed well and just adding 1 qt of water mixed for 1-2 gallons of nutrient when ya need to bump the ppm up works fine. Nutrients mix very quickly this way.

Inside each bucket is a 3" long, 1.5" diameter air stone. I run the air pump at high. iirc it's the model 8000, 4 outlet. These air stones are awesome, cheap, and deliver lots of really tiny bubbles for 6 months or more easily.

I can't think of anything else off hand. I hope I explained it well. I do suggest getting 6-8 extra uniseals and 2-3 extra buckets, just in case you mess up a hole. A perfect hole won't leak. Imperfect on burrs, will cause leaks in the system and they are no fun to deal with in the middle of flower.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

 

[CrypticSteel]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Just what I needed bro, thank you. I'm with ya on getting the extra parts. Doing DIY projects even if I don't mess up I'm usually like "hmm what happens if I do this." lol

I just have one question, how much water does the system hold total?

 

[Hiker]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

a 1/10hp water chiller, set to 54-55f. This maintains 57.6f water temps and you'll never get root rot with those temps.

You keep your res that cool without issue? My res was consistently ~56F, and I felt it was too cold, so I added a heater. I try to keep it at 64F to maximize dissolved oxygen (peaks at 65F). I think the cold temps the first few weeks of my grow slowed the plants a bit, but there were lots of other factors at play too, so it's hard to say. I was advised that having the res in the 50's was too cold, and my plants were definitely showing signs of temperature stress.

What is your ambient temp in the flowering room?

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Opps, I can't edit that post.. HIKER, MY BAD..... I meant 64-65f and didnt catch the typo!

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

I just have one question, how much water does the system hold total?

On a fresh start, just prior to dropping in pre-vegged plants with good roots but not huge root balls, plants about 12" tall after 1-2 toppings, and 2 defoliations (to give you an idea about water displacement from volume of roots) it holds about 17-18 gals to set the water level just an inch or two below the netpots while recirculating.

Later on of course when roots are more massive, a res change will require much less. Maybe 12-15 gals but I never get every drop out of the system until harvest. There may still be 2+ gals in there on a res change.

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Hi Bassman, I've been going through the same thing with my mom for 6 years now........I'm sending you tons of strength but remember you must take care of yourself also !

Thanks clayhead. + reps for ya. I gotta say, my biggest fault in all of this is I really don't take care of myself also. I mean I stay home nearly 100% of the time when not at work. I set my schedule to 4 days a week, and even then I early out every day. I'm always on the list to go home (voluntarily) when biz slows in the wee morning hours.

Not whining. I figure I'll get my time when mom passes. Until then, it's the right thing to do. If I were wealthy, I'd have a caretaker here 7 days a week, 8 hrs a day, and I'd do more for myself while still taking care of mom. But that's not possible. So I'll just do what I can now. 1-2 times a month, stay late on my Friday after work and spend a few hours doing something.

 

[DocDee]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Edited

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Rather not say, I'm sure you understand. While I could pass a drug test, and I'm doin it to treat mom, it's still federally illegal and against corp policy though mmj has never been directly challenged in any way vs the corp. I already gathered where your interest lies btw. And that's the only good place in a casino. jmho.

I really put too much info in that other post. Since edited it out. Which probably tells you something too.

 

[DocDee]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Fixed my post for you as well. Completely understand mate!

 

[Hiker]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Hey Bassman, if you have time, could you peek into my journal and look at the root pics I posted today? I'd like to hear your assessment on the issue. I'm having a root problem on one plant. So strange.

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Catching up on journals as I write, so ya will be over there soon.

 

[s1ingblade]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

does tood only give a one chance fix? I have had a second issue with one of my orders, dont want to waste a couple of bucks if there going to do nothing about it. Then again I might as well so we can all know? sorry for the waste of time on your thread.

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

I have no idea Az. They appear to have a lessor customer service way about them than Nirvana. But that may just be a smokescreen because of their laws. I really don't know. My replacements just got here. Six Kosher Kush.

 

[s1ingblade]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Sweet not sure if you saw a post i did in my journal about how they sent some seeds of my choice to make up for a strain that were bad except for one bean, so im pleased i have almost as many healthy plants from that one good one and now two completly awesome sets of seeds for having to have went thru the hassle, hope it worked out well for you two, i actually mailed back the duds

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

They didn't offer me anything nor say anything really. I just got an email of shipping confirmation and tracking #. They replaced only the Kosher Kush from the order, which were the bad seeds. Two had cracked, albeit slowly, and I waited at least 5 days for the others, then dropped 4 more. After 4 days they had not cracked and I sent the email. About 4 days later, 2/4 did crack. So that was 2/6 of that package (2 were from a previous pack also).

I'm happy I got the replacements. They are very expensive seeds. I'm going to get some mothers this time!

 

[s1ingblade]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Its nice when things work out, they made me wait over two months but with every order I'd send a lil post it note with the money order, finally after they sold out again they finally emailed me and asked what I wanted so i took 5 DP's Strawberry Cough x5 fem. and 3 ref. GDP's Phantom Cookies. In the beginning i did get a harsh email warning about asking online, told me after the first time " one more question online and I'd be banned" so of course i sent them a letter lol. I think your next round will go more as planned with the compatibility

 

[Danner]

Re: Bassman's 6th - Blue Planet Nutrients - RDWC - Hi-Defoliation Martian & Master Ku

Hey there Bassman, hope all is well. I just had a quick question; when do you start defoliating and supercropping for both seedlings and clones? Do you wait until they're a certain age or certain height?
Danner

P.S.

I read your situation with your mom and all that you do for her and I just gotta say how much I respect what you do. Not too many people are as selfless and would sacrifice like you do. It is truly an awesome and commendable thing! I'll bet your mom is one proud mamma cuz she obviously raised a tremendously caring son. Props to you man!