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Dutch Dragon's Blueberry White BatMix Soil 90 Watt LED UFO - CFL Grow 2'x2'

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
So heres my first attempt at a grow journal. Im open to sugestions and advice and plan on using as many photos as possible because thats just what we like. Im a stoner so bare with me.

The Setup
2'x2'x5' homemade cabinet with twin 190cfm canfilters with 2x bathroom exhaust fans. Lined the box with mylar coated bubble wrap and weather sealed the door. Passive intakes x4. 9" oscilating table fan. air filter/ionizer tower fan.
Lights
90 watt led ufo, 3x 32watt 6500k tube type cfls, 6x 32 watt 2700k spiral cfls, 4x 25 watt 2700k spiral cfls.

Soil
Plagron Batmix, this is a mix of perlite, white and black peatmoss, peatmoss fibre, worm castings and pre fertilized with bat guano(Yes I know peatmoss isnt very ecofriendly but its just so good). Ive added some extra bat guano to the mix as last time it was a bit lacking.

Water
I just brita tap water and keep it in a five gallon tank with a tap.

Strain
Kera Seeds feminized Blueberry White x 3.


Ok, so i paper toweled the three seeds and put them by the heater between two saucers in a plastic bag within 12 hours had root and planted in 1 gallon pots and put them under 3x 32watt 6500k cfls. A week later when roots show at bottom I trasplanted into 4 1/2 gallon pots. No shock, they soon took off. I find this method the least stressful for the plants.
Were now on day 13 and here are some pics of the little beautys. They look a bit weird cause of the leds sorry.


My last grow of top 44 I harvested 4 oz from 4 plants so my goal is this time to top that with just these three plants. Wish me luck.
 

CISCOKID

Well-Known Member
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

It looks great! Grow for it and good luck...I'll be in and out 4 sure!

I didn't see the intake "specs" where is it and what size for your cab?

I found it...but what is it? a bottom hole 4-5"
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

Hey CISCOKID,
Thanks for looking in, ive got a passive intake of just four circular 4" holes. The cab is 2'x2' square and 5' tall. The exhaust is twin 5" can filters driven by 2 cheapo bathroom exhaust fans at 190 cfm. works great.

We all love photos so heres my best photo from my last grow of top 44, I know its off topic but its always nice to see pictures of buds, and I wont have any for a while.
 

CISCOKID

Well-Known Member
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

You would need at least 160 cfm per 250 watts of light...for that size cab. I noticed that the cooler the roots the better. You have quite the array of lights...not sure if you just add more as you go or not. Bathroom exahst fans don't really have a good pushing power IMHO, but we do what we can with what is available... I would suggest keeping the LED as your primary grow light untill you are in flower and add cfl's to get close down below the canopy as it grows... or you could do a FIM or LST to keep the canopy at an even level to use all the lights and get max yield per watt.

You are doing good with it though just keep these variables in mind and don't worry..there a a lot of seasoned growers here ready to lend a hand..myself included. Peace and good luck to you again.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

Ill post pics of the cab later on, it still needs tweeking but Im to sick to do a lot of work on my cab at the moment. Bloody flu.
I had a problem that my led would glow when lights off, changed the timer for a digital one and now all is well:) Its so nice when
a problem is fixed so easily.
 

CISCOKID

Well-Known Member
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

I had a closet with similar dimensions...Mine was a 3'x3'x7' closet that I divided into tow cabs for veg. and flower. My flower room was the bigger one of course.. it was 3x3x4 using cfl's at first and then upgraded to HPS/MH after a few grows...well worth the money in equipment.

You could check out my ups and downs by searching for Siscokid if you like. I'm glad to have had the chance to give back to my fellow GROW-BRO'S so don't be afraid to ask for any advice.. If I don't know what is what I may know someone who will. You know? lol

Good to meet you and stay safe above all. :high-five:
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

I veg with the ufo and the 6500k cfls, then when I flip to 12/12 I add a load of 2700k cfls. Last time I veged 4 plants for 4 weeks to fill my scrog screen, I think with these 3 plants I may need to veg for 5 or 6 weeks, although the blueberry white might grow bigger or faster than my last stain, we'll see. will be scrogging for sure when they are 8 inches tall. scrog is top, but it does require a lot of work. Hopefuly I will break less tops this time. last time I broke 2 main tops early on, but the final weigh in seemed to tell me that it didnt cost much in the way of buds, the others just seem to get bigger to make up for the loss.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

Its only been a day, but theyve grown loads,
here are some pics of the girls and a few of the cab to clarify what Im using. Dont knock the bathroom fans they move 380 cfm between them for 30 euro, and quietly, I even have to turn one off sometimes cause they realy work well. Anyway enough of defending my cheapskateness, here are some pics.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

its been 2 long days since my last update, so its time for some more pics. Not bad progress.
They got a feed of organic kelp based tomatoe feed last night, I realy spoil them:) They're really beginning to smell already.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

just watered them and took some photos to let you see theyre progress.
. I think Im gonna defoliate them its too dark under them mighty leaves.
 

Outragedpluto

New Member
Hey Dutch dragon your grow looks really good man. I like your setup. Mines pretty ghetto as well haha. Great idea to use the Mylar bubble wrap!! I'm still kinda new at this growing thing and I'm trying to learn how to tell if a plant is sativa, indica, indica dominant hybrid, sativa dominant hybrid, so forth. Would yours be a indica dominant hybrid? You have more than five blades but the leaves are shorter and stockier. Just wondering lol. Trying to become a pro ;-)
Anywho ill defiantly be keeping an eye on this journal. Keep up the good work man!!!
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

Hi Outragedpluto,
thanks for looking in on my efforts, Blueberry White is a cross between blueberry and white widow which makes it a sativa indica hybrid. The plants indeed look indica with the broad leaves, but the effect is said to be sativa. Its almost impossible these days to tell at a glance what plant is what by sight alone as the genes are so mixed up with so much hybridization, but you made a good guess. Looks indica, high yielding, short flowering time, but the cerebral high of the sativa:) 20% THC.
Ill be putting my scrog screen in place this weekend I hope, as theyre getting prity big. And if Im lucky I might be getting a 250 watt hps lamp ready for flowering.
Updates to come on sunday:)
Thanks again for looking in.
 

Outragedpluto

New Member
With your scrog setup do you attach your screen directly to the pot or is it attached to your grow cabinet. I really want to try scrog out but I can't figure out how to get a screen to be in my setup safely. I'm wanting to try and attach to the pot its self but can't figure out how to go about it. I have the screen made up just no way to attach.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

Im growing in a wooden cabinet so I simply screw 2 pieces of batten to the sides about 8" above my pots. I then sit my scrog screen in a wooden frame on top of that, and tape it to the batten with aluminium tape to ensure it dosnt get pushed up by the plants. If your growing in a tent with no solid walls, then a frame will be required. make a frame, install your screen with 2" holes in it (I just drill holes every 2" along my frame and then thread thick nylon string through the holes) and put 4 legs on it at the required length. If you give me a more discript idea of your setup maybe we can think of a solution together.
Good luck, scrog rules.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Re: Dutch Dragons Blueberry White Batmix soil 90 watt led ufo,cfl grow 2'x2'

I said sunday but I cant wait, heres an update after defoliating them all last night.
This is porn. Naked ladies. MMMMMM. Hope my misses dont read this she'll get jealous.
The aim is to get those lower limbs to grow taller, as last time they were too late getting up above the scrog canopy.
Hope this works.
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Sorry, its been ages, just havent had the time, but heres a little update. Since stripping the girls in an attempt to stunt the upward growth and encourage the lower shoots to grow, heres the result.
group shot
the short one
the middle sized one
the monster one
Im trying to stunt them a bit and get light down to smaller bud sites. After defoliating there was plenty of light getting in there for 3 days, but then the other leaves doubled in size daily. Very short term exposure for the lower bud sites, quite disapointed at how quick they bounced back. Think Ill be dofoliating after the flowering stretch next time only as it will be more efective. On the plus side though they only grew an inch in 6 days, thats a result. The scrog screen will be going in on the weekend and a week later its time to flip them. Ive ordered a 250 watt hps set up, Im picking it up tomorrow:thumb: Im excited about the power but am sure its gonna give me a heat problem. Anyone know how hot itll run?
Will update when Ive got some pics of the scrog screen in place.
Take it easy.
 

Outragedpluto

New Member
I like the update man. Things are looking good for you. Now I'm no professional at lighting but I have done a lot of research. I do know that the 250 watt hid light will be warm. You will need to add additional exhaust near the light at the top. If you can get a air cooled hood you will be best suited. As for light bulbs for them I have read the best flowering one is Eye Blue MH bulbs. They are the perfect light spectrum for photosynthesis. Hope this helps man. Happy growing!!!
 

dutch dragon

Plant of the Month: Sept 2013
Had a shit day yesterday,
went to pick up my light at the grow shop, but he'd forgoten to order it again. The guy is a dick. So Ive ordered one online with a cooltube. Hope it dont take long to come cause I wanna flip prity soon. Got my screen in last night. Heres a pick.
. Will be updating weekly from now on so you can beter see the growth. See how the screen fills in this week and if it goes well flip em maybe next weekend.
Take it easy
Be safe
 
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