Mold ID Please

[013]

Cool, cool, cool…I understand. Fortunately - been there, done that, got the t-shirt…white whispy fuzz is a very common when cooking soil, every time you open a bin thats microbed up and watered in - the white whispy fuzz should be visible on top. This was going on in (he who shall not be named) threads back to 2013. when soil is properly mineralized & microbed

in my experience white fuzz will naturally dissipate after a few days continuous exposure to air and light. Pretty confident it poses no threat…don’t think that species can live above ground for long without dark or confined space & humidity like in plastic tote with lid

I do grasp everyone’s concern and there definelty could be some bad white whispy fuzz but think we are 420% clear on this one given the use of great white…. I’ll be curious to see results if the OP runs 2 test cups mentioned above

 

[cbdhemp808]

You got the T-shirt?! I didn't get the T-shirt!!

OK, but...

This does not look like white whispy to me... more like long grey filaments. The filaments are actually rather big and long... look at the curve of the pot in comparison.

Granted there are a zillion fungi, but the only one I happen to know that grows long, dark filaments like this is the cat/dog poop fungus (turns poops into hairy blobs), which is in the order, Mucorales. Some in this order are known to be human pathogens...

"The strains of Mucorales that have the potential to make you sick are most often of the genera Rhizopus, Mucor, and Rhizomuco. A cancer patient diagnosed with this fungal infection died earlier this year and the infection was associated with medicinal marijuana use." [ source: Top 10 Germs in Cannabis That Can Make You Sick - Hardy Diagnostics Blog ]​

In comparison, myco is very white, fine, fuzzy, and interconnected... it's white mycelium. The long grey filaments don't look like white mycelium.

"The mycelium is made up of tiny threads that bore into tree roots and grow into large networks. These networks are called mycorrhizal networks..." [source: How mycelium and mycorrhizal networks benefit the forest ]​

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"Mycorrhizae ... exist as very tiny, almost or even entirely microscopic, threads called hyphae. The hyphae are all interconnected into a net-like web called a mycelium..." [source: How do mycorrhizae work? Explained Simply ]​

See also: Commercial mycorrhizal products: what species do they contain?

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[bluter]

2 pages debating a beneficial mold lol

@1337sp33d - don't sweat it. it's a good thing. lotsa folk do a double take when they first run across it. i've had it occasionally outdoor even if the conditions are right. the sun usually burns it off after a couple days, but it stays active beneath.

 

[cbdhemp808]

And we still haven't answered the OP's question... "Mold ID Please".

So, which one of the listed fungi in Great White is the grey, long-fillament fungus in the OP's photo?

I've started a new thread here: Commercial mycorrhizal products: what species do they contain?

 

[bluter]

And we still haven't answered the OP's question... "Mold ID Please".

So, which one of the listed fungi in Great White is the grey, long-fillament fungus in the OP's photo?

it's the mycchorizae web. it's the actual filaments. you don't normally see them as it's generally subterranean.
it's a real good thing to see.

I've started a new thread here: XXX

sweet.

 

[cbdhemp808]

it's the mycchorizae web. it's the actual filaments. you don't normally see them as it's generally subterranean.
it's a real good thing to see.

I maintain that the best-selling myco products for cannabis contain Rhizophagus intraradices or Rhizophagus irregularis. One contains Glomus mosseae. And I'll bet the grey mold on the OP's soil is none of these.

Check it out... Commercial mycorrhizal products: what species do they contain?

 

[013]

A certain group here used a special kit of ingredients to build their soil, the white fuzz during soil cooking was considered a first step on road to high brix gardening, I dont think anyone ever identified scientific name but this was standard fare, in fact if it didn’t fuzz up it was considered as not sufficiently cooked.

@Fuzzy Duck can confirm maybe Graytail and a few others

 

[013]

I forgot to mention another aspect, if you put fan leaves on top of a well tuned soil or in a soil bin white fuzz will encompass the leaves

 

[1337sp33d]

Hi.
I'm under the impression that white fuzz is good stuff.
How long after adding the great white to the soil did this appear?

Hi, thanks for the reply. It was at about 80° Fahrenheit with a humidity dome for 4 to 5 days I think not exactly sure.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Is it gone now?

 

[1337sp33d]

I forgot to mention another aspect, if you put fan leaves on top of a well tuned soil or in a soil bin white fuzz will encompass the leaves

I have found leaf mold greatly helps the soil and there are types of leaves they use in India that are supposed to be the best but not sure. I am currently learning vermicompost methods as well.

 

[1337sp33d]

Is it gone now?

I mixed it into the soil, and it did not grow back on the surface.

 

[SmokingWings]

This does not look like white whispy to me... more like long grey filaments. The filaments are actually rather big and long... look at the curve of the pot in comparison.

About a week ago while surfing the web I ended up following links on mold and what not and came across a web page discussing fungi and mycelium and similar soil life. The author of the web page brought up that the gray filaments and fuzz that we often see is a sign that the fungi has entered another growth phase on its way to becoming a mycelium network or whatever.

Moved on from that page and exited about 15 tabs on the way out before I remembered this thread. For all I know the info was on the wiki page for mycelium. Had looked at a lot of pages on soil fungi and that is the only one I remember going to--the rest just the surfing.

The humidity dome must have created enough of a humid environment where the strands could form on the surface for several days. I have seen it on top of my soils that are cooking and resting with a covering over them to prevent the surface from drying out.

 

[cbdhemp808]

One would have to research various different strains of mycorrhizal fungi, specifically, and not just mycelium of other types of fungi, to know if there is indeed one or more species of mycorrhizal fungi that – while normally inhabiting the root zone – do sometimes appear on the surface of the soil. If they do that, why are they doing it? Is it part of the life cycle? If it does happen, are the surface hyphae a different color than the sub-surface hyphae? Etc.

I'm not buying the idea that because a particular myco product was used, and a humidity dome, that this implies the observed surface fungi is indeed a strain of mycorrhizal fungi. There are just too many variables in order to make that conclusion. Sure, it's possible. Maybe even likely. But not a done deal.

 

[1337sp33d]

You got the T-shirt?! I didn't get the T-shirt!!

OK, but...

This does not look like white whispy to me... more like long grey filaments. The filaments are actually rather big and long... look at the curve of the pot in comparison.

Granted there are a zillion fungi, but the only one I happen to know that grows long, dark filaments like this is the cat/dog poop fungus (turns poops into hairy blobs), which is in the order, Mucorales. Some in this order are known to be human pathogens...

"The strains of Mucorales that have the potential to make you sick are most often of the genera Rhizopus, Mucor, and Rhizomuco. A cancer patient diagnosed with this fungal infection died earlier this year and the infection was associated with medicinal marijuana use." [ source: Top 10 Germs in Cannabis That Can Make You Sick - Hardy Diagnostics Blog ]​

In comparison, myco is very white, fine, fuzzy, and interconnected... it's white mycelium. The long grey filaments don't look like white mycelium.

"The mycelium is made up of tiny threads that bore into tree roots and grow into large networks. These networks are called mycorrhizal networks..." [source: How mycelium and mycorrhizal networks benefit the forest ]​

​

"Mycorrhizae ... exist as very tiny, almost or even entirely microscopic, threads called hyphae. The hyphae are all interconnected into a net-like web called a mycelium..." [source: How do mycorrhizae work? Explained Simply ]​

See also: Commercial mycorrhizal products: what species do they contain?

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[1337sp33d]

The upstairs neighbor has a dog that he lets poop on the cement. The rain carries the bacteria to my storage space. There was a water leak and a piece of carpet padding which was showing a fungal growth. After reading your post I cleaned up everything involved (even though it is not my dog) . As well I will go see the doctor about the lump that has developed near my lower right rib cage. Thank you so much for the info might have saved my life.

 

[013]

alrighty then hang tight while I spin this one… I‘m not here to promote High Brix, that’s a touchy subject so out of respect to our host 420 Mag…. enuff said.

to be honest I wouldn’t know mycos A from mycos B, could be fungi really no. clue. on. species.
what I do know is white fuzz in conjunction with soil cooking, the use of microbiology & mineralized soil, a reduced oxygen enviro (duh cuz it’s in a covered bin) was heavily reported here in that same journal.

The fuzz just doesn’t live long outside soil bin, it will spawn & display on top of soil but vanishes after day or two of light & air. I believe it was Graytail reported seeing white fuzz consuming fan leaves on top of his soil…

….2014 Hash Hound

…..Brixnewbie….

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…… Mag7

Fan leaves being eaten

this looks like crap sorry for format. basically whatever this one micro-beastie is… it can’t survive in light and air for long, it needs dark and moist to thrive. I’ve seen the similar white fuzz when I use the Down To Earth 5-4-2 but it behaves same way & wont tolerate light or air for long.

I’m not saying every strain of white fuzz is great or ok…. I’m just saying some species appear to be very beneficial. apologies was mid edit and my wifi puked

peace out

 

[cbdhemp808]

Again, we have not answered the OP's question... "Mold ID Please". In fact, we can't answer that question.

With all the fungal species out there – mycorrhizal and otherwise – with their spores drifting on the wind and flowing in the water, the devil is in the details. Generalizing about "white fuzz" doesn't help much.

Wishing you well @1337sp33d !

and happy growing!

 

[Mountainman80]

Hi, all I thought I steamed my soil before adding great white, is this good stuff or bad stuff?
IE: mycorrhizae or Fusarium ?

I no mold issnt good but in ur soil.meens ur soil.is alive that's a good thing as long as u don t see any on ur plants I wouldn't worry if u feel its a problem just mix one cup.proxicide to.a gallon of water water her with it it should kill all mold plus its good for the root system ✌

 

[cbdhemp808]

I no mold issnt good but in ur soil.meens ur soil.is alive that's a good thing as long as u don t see any on ur plants I wouldn't worry if u feel its a problem just mix one cup.proxicide to.a gallon of water water her with it it should kill all mold plus its good for the root system ✌

Please read more of this thread. No, fungus on the soil surface isn't necessarily a good sign. Yes, roots like oxygen, but peroxide in the water will kill beneficial soil microbes.