Starting From Zero

[g-one-three]

Well tomorrow the lights are going to 12/12 and it will officially be a 420 Flip Friday ! They are all about 8" tall and that's 1" more than yesterday. As I'm in a shorter tent the stretch is got me a little worried if I left them go a couple more days. Here's a couple of shots pre flip.

Wedding Crasher 40 days old and 8"tall
This plant is a bush, it was quadlined, supercropped and LST'ed

The Wedding Crasher is getting cool looking double serrated leaves!

Blueberry 40 days old, 8" tall
This plant was topped and LST'ed and supercropped. The topping only resulted in 1 dominate cola (my fault).

Purple Haze 33 days old, 7" tall
This plant was topped and LST'ed but wasn't really trained like the others.

 

[g-one-three]

3 days post flip update. It was a reservoir fill day. So that's about 1 gallon in 3 days. The tent is beginning to start to smell fragrant and I had to set the exhaust to constant run level 1 and then to level 5 when the humidity hits 60%. My lung room is getting cold and this results in the tent being cold at lights out, less than 65°. I set the lights to run at night hoping the tent would be warmer during the day, it's not worked yet but I will give it another week then I will buy a small heater if needed.

When should I defoliate? Is it a post stretch thing?

Tent shot

Wedding Crasher 43 days old, 3 days flower

Blueberry 43 days, 3 days flip

Purple Haze 36 days old, 3 days post flip

 

[NickHardy]

Defoliation - its kind of a personal thing. & Co (My wife) lets to get stuck in with the blades lots and relatively often. Others will barely defol.

So few days after flip they won’t have begun stretch yet, I’d wait until they have and assess then. It will also make it easier to both see what you want to do and actually do it as the nodes will be spaced further apart.

Nick

 

[g-one-three]

Defoliation - its kind of a personal thing. & Co (My wife) lets to get stuck in with the blades lots and relatively often. Others will barely defol.

So few days after flip they won’t have begun stretch yet, I’d wait until they have and assess then. It will also make it easier to both see what you want to do and actually do it as the nodes will be spaced further apart.

Nick

Ok I'll wait till they get their stretch over with.

I swear I'm not super concerned about numbers but what VPD should I be shooting for in flower? It feels like the plants environment is pretty good and I don't see anything in the plants that tells me otherwise. Just nice to put some numbers to what I'm seeing.

 

[NickHardy]

Ok I'll wait till they get their stretch over with.

I swear I'm not super concerned about numbers but what VPD should I be shooting for in flower? It feels like the plants environment is pretty good and I don't see anything in the plants that tells me otherwise. Just nice to put some numbers to what I'm seeing.

1.2 will do nicely. You want t let it ride a little higher to 1.4/5 then that’s also cool.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

The tent is beginning to start to smell fragrant and I had to set the exhaust to constant run level 1 and then to level 5 when the humidity hits 60%. My lung room is getting cold and this results in the tent being cold at lights out, less than 65°.

How much less?
65 would be 18⁰C which is fine for a lights out temp.
That looks like a concrete floor under the tent, which can cool it down a lot.

 

[g-one-three]

How much less?
65 would be 18⁰C which is fine for a lights out temp.
That looks like a concrete floor under the tent, which can cool it down a lot.

Well it was dipping to 63° and then I turned the warming mat on and it maintained it at 65 so far. My biggest concern was that even though it was 63 in the tent how much cooler was the soil and that's what I put the warming mat in the room, it's set to 72 as a max temp and with the probe inserted down about 6" into the soil.

 

[g-one-three]

Well today was a good day, got off work early and I received a couple deliveries. First was a seed order from @North Atlantic Seed Co and second was a new mini tent from @VIVOSUN for my hopeful wedding crasher mother plant.

Vivosun Mother Tent 20x14x21
I actually have it turned on its side because I'm a little tight on space and it sits perfect on top of my tent

Future auto grow + awesome freebies from @North Atlantic Seed Co

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Well it was dipping to 63° and then I turned the warming mat on and it maintained it at 65 so far. My biggest concern was that even though it was 63 in the tent how much cooler was the soil and that's what I put the warming mat in the room, it's set to 72 as a max temp and with the probe inserted down about 6" into the soil.

That should be fine.
With the new tent on top you can't raise it, but if you do end up moving the mother tent you might want to consider raising the main tent, maybe on a skid or something like that. It would make root zone temps easier to manage.

 

[g-one-three]

That should be fine.
With the new tent on top you can't raise it, but if you do end up moving the mother tent you might want to consider raising the main tent, maybe on a skid or something like that. It would make root zone temps easier to manage.

The mother tent staying there is negotiable lol I just haven't told my wife I bought it yet and it's the most convenient spot for it because the GFI plug is right there.

I'm having trouble finding a light that can fit and not be too much light for a small space.

 

[g-one-three]

The mother tent staying there is negotiable lol I just haven't told my wife I bought it yet and it's the most convenient spot for it because the GFI plug is right there.

I'm having trouble finding a light that can fit and not be too much light for a small space.

Check that I have a light, it says it's 45w but I'm not totally sold on that but it is bright and exactly 21" wide plus a little bit for the cord. I start my tomato seeds with it in the spring so it should do for some seedlings/clones/mother, probably to much for the mother as I'll only need 1 to two every 6 weeks or so. The plant I'm currently growing is my current favorite strain and this girls short stocky and stinky even before flower lol.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

The mother tent staying there is negotiable lol I just haven't told my wife I bought it yet and it's the most convenient spot for it because the GFI plug is right there.

Ahh. Well, your temps are good for now, although we're heading into the coldest part of the year, at least around here.

I'm having trouble finding a light that can fit and not be too much light for a small space.

Vivosun VS1000 or Aerolight, or Viparspectra xs1000 or 1500 pro have dimmers.
I doubt you'll find much made for smaller spaces, and they'd give you room to upgrade to a 2x2 tent in the future.
The Vivosun Aerolight should work with your growhub too.

 

[NickHardy]

I bought 4 of these last week. Said 60w in the ad but say 50w on the label. $30 No dimmer but that’s easy. BUT - are they too big? 60cm/24”

 

[g-one-three]

I bought 4 of these last week. Said 60w in the ad but say 50w on the label. $30 No dimmer but that’s easy. BUT - are they too big? 60cm/24”

Ya the tents kind of made for one of those aero cloner/garden deals and it's they way I have it positioned it's only 21" so it makes it a weird size. However that light panel I got should work for now. It's decently bright and should do it's job keeping stuff alive, while I look for a replacement.

 

[NickHardy]

Ya the tents kind of made for one of those aero cloner/garden deals and it's they way I have it positioned it's only 21" so it makes it a weird size. However that light panel I got should work for now. It's decently bright and should do it's job keeping stuff alive, while I look for a replacement.

That about just T3-T5 type bars? Though tbh what you have looks plenty slow slow veg and minimal power draw are all you want

 

[g-one-three]

That about just T3-T5 type bars? Though tbh what you have looks plenty slow slow veg and minimal power draw are all you want

That's what I was originally looking at but they are scarce under 24". I was kicking around wiring up some cfl's and doing it old school lol but this panel doesn't get to warm and I've gotten my tomato and pepper seedlings about 10" before putting them outside.

Tent shot right before lights out this morning

 

[greenmobster440]

Love the grow. Your rocking it. That small tent is a great upgrade. Mini mama hotel..lol

 

[g-one-three]

So I started cutting back the very bottom growth and fan leaves. There were quite a bit of fan leaves growing over some of the smaller bud sites. There's still some more removal that needs done but I'll wait a couple days. The canopy remains almost completely even across all 3 strains, which was the plan but they are starting to grow over each other.

Blueberry

Wedding Crasher

Purple Haze

Canopy Shot

 

[g-one-three]

Love the grow. Your rocking it. That small tent is a great upgrade. Mini mama hotel..lol

Thanks man! Its been a joy to grow this way. The SIP's are a game changer. Can't wait to see the buds on these girls haha.

Also that tent is guna be a perfect oasis or absolutely a challenge but I'm looking forward to it.

 

[g-one-three]

It was another day of thinning out fan leaves and trying to get as many bud sites to the top of the canopy. I also took 3 more clones of the wedding crasher that were never going to make it to the canopy.

Blueberry, 46 days old, 6 days post flip
Topped, Supercropped and LST
The smell on this thing is really noticable when I mess with the stems.

Wedding Crasher 46 days old, 6 days post flip
Quadlined, Supercropped and LST'd
Was shooting for 20 bud sites but I think I'll only end up with 18, it's no @Carcass canopy but I'm happy with it .

Purple Haze 39 days old, 6 days post flip
Topped and Supercropped