Great work team!!
Fuzznutter's Organic Photos & Autos: Take 1
Great work team!!
Rooster1
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Looking real good Fuzznutter, you have been busy. Your little ones are doing well, look back a week ago and it really sinks in how fast these little cuties can grow.
So which bean got soaked tonight ? Rooster1 running a few yards...
So which bean got soaked tonight ? Rooster1 running a few yards...
SugarX
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Fuzznutter's Organic Photos & Autos - Take 1
Loving the "expanded" setup Fuzz..makes me a little jealous to say the least. Maybe someday my significant other will get onboard with my op. Otherwise it's a 2X4 tent and short grow autos forever ....don't get me wrong I'm loving my auto ladies, but someday I'd like to grow outdoors as well as try many other strains for growing experience.
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Loving the "expanded" setup Fuzz..makes me a little jealous to say the least. Maybe someday my significant other will get onboard with my op. Otherwise it's a 2X4 tent and short grow autos forever ....don't get me wrong I'm loving my auto ladies, but someday I'd like to grow outdoors as well as try many other strains for growing experience.
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Fuzznutter
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Re: Fuzznutter's Organic Photos & Autos - Take 1
Thank you Rooster! Last night I soaked another Dark Devil Auto!
LOL. I think no matter how big our grow space is, we'll always be jealous of the person with the space just one foot bigger. At least I am.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the reason your significant other doesn't want you to grow more?
Looking real good Fuzznutter, you have been busy. Your little ones are doing well, look back a week ago and it really sinks in how fast these little cuties can grow.
Thank you Rooster! Last night I soaked another Dark Devil Auto!
LOL. I think no matter how big our grow space is, we'll always be jealous of the person with the space just one foot bigger. At least I am.
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Fuzznutter
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Today's update!
Photos Day 16
Left to right: Special Queen #1, CBD Skunk Haze (1), and CBD Skunk Haze (2)
The plants look a lot greener in the picture than they do in person. They're not yellow or anything but a much paler green. I'm concerned about the seedling soil mix and changed the recipe for next time. Next time I'm going to use half the amount of perlite and vermiculite and twice as much earth worm castings. In the meantime I put a thin layer of earth worm castings on top of their cups this morning (after the picture). I also watered with 1 tsp aloe gel and 1/4 tsp sprouted seed tea per quart of bubbled water. Fingers crossed it's not overkill but just what they need to perk up more.
Those CBD Skunk Hazes are problem children. Every time I check on the ladies Special Queen is raising her arms and worshiping the light. The Skunk Hazes look like their sulking and don't really want to be there except their grower mum is forcing them to be. *Sigh*
Autos - Nobody is up yet.
I forgot to mention that on top of everything else yesterday, we lost power for 3 hours. Of course when they shut it off they told us it would be for 35 to 40 minutes. :icon_roll Despite that, I'm actually glad for once we lost power because they replaced all the lines to and around our home and are working on doing this for the entire neighborhood. I have never lived anywhere that loses power as often as we do. It has impacted, if not outright ruined, more than one grow in the past. I'm thrilled that maybe this will be one less problem I'll have to deal with from now on.
And I believe that's it for now. Today I'm taking it really easy. I'm dehydrating some apples for granola bars and building a quick tabletop bird stand from an old stitching scroll frame. I'll be keeping it simple.
Photos Day 16
Left to right: Special Queen #1, CBD Skunk Haze (1), and CBD Skunk Haze (2)
The plants look a lot greener in the picture than they do in person. They're not yellow or anything but a much paler green. I'm concerned about the seedling soil mix and changed the recipe for next time. Next time I'm going to use half the amount of perlite and vermiculite and twice as much earth worm castings. In the meantime I put a thin layer of earth worm castings on top of their cups this morning (after the picture). I also watered with 1 tsp aloe gel and 1/4 tsp sprouted seed tea per quart of bubbled water. Fingers crossed it's not overkill but just what they need to perk up more.
Those CBD Skunk Hazes are problem children. Every time I check on the ladies Special Queen is raising her arms and worshiping the light. The Skunk Hazes look like their sulking and don't really want to be there except their grower mum is forcing them to be. *Sigh*
Autos - Nobody is up yet.
I forgot to mention that on top of everything else yesterday, we lost power for 3 hours. Of course when they shut it off they told us it would be for 35 to 40 minutes. :icon_roll Despite that, I'm actually glad for once we lost power because they replaced all the lines to and around our home and are working on doing this for the entire neighborhood. I have never lived anywhere that loses power as often as we do. It has impacted, if not outright ruined, more than one grow in the past. I'm thrilled that maybe this will be one less problem I'll have to deal with from now on.
And I believe that's it for now. Today I'm taking it really easy. I'm dehydrating some apples for granola bars and building a quick tabletop bird stand from an old stitching scroll frame. I'll be keeping it simple.
Rooster1
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Today's update!
Photos Day 16
Left to right: Special Queen #1, CBD Skunk Haze (1), and CBD Skunk Haze (2)
The plants look a lot greener in the picture than they do in person. They're not yellow or anything but a much paler green. I'm concerned about the seedling soil mix and changed the recipe for next time. Next time I'm going to use half the amount of perlite and vermiculite and twice as much earth worm castings. In the meantime I put a thin layer of earth worm castings on top of their cups this morning (after the picture). I also watered with 1 tsp aloe gel and 1/4 tsp sprouted seed tea per quart of bubbled water. Fingers crossed it's not overkill but just what they need to perk up more.
Those CBD Skunk Hazes are problem children. Every time I check on the ladies Special Queen is raising her arms and worshiping the light. The Skunk Hazes look like their sulking and don't really want to be there except their grower mum is forcing them to be. *Sigh*
Autos - Nobody is up yet.
I forgot to mention that on top of everything else yesterday, we lost power for 3 hours. Of course when they shut it off they told us it would be for 35 to 40 minutes. :icon_roll Despite that, I'm actually glad for once we lost power because they replaced all the lines to and around our home and are working on doing this for the entire neighborhood. I have never lived anywhere that loses power as often as we do. It has impacted, if not outright ruined, more than one grow in the past. I'm thrilled that maybe this will be one less problem I'll have to deal with from now on.
And I believe that's it for now. Today I'm taking it really easy. I'm dehydrating some apples for granola bars and building a quick tabletop bird stand from an old stitching scroll frame. I'll be keeping it simple.
Well, well well, looks like some of my hens came thru here and made some nice nest !
Looking good Fuzznutter....Oh hells bells, I forgot to comment on your next seed choice, from what I have seen Dark Devil is a mighty fine choice. Can't wait until I get to taste mine..... Rooster1 moving on outta here....
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Fuzznutter
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Well, well well, looks like some of my hens came thru here and made some nice nest !
Yes, but they didn't leave me any eggs or hatch my seedlings! You better talk to them girls about having better work ethics. 
Habitual
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You have two nodes of true leaves it will get fast now. 
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Fuzznutter
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I need help! So far my organic experiment is not going well for me. I know everyone is trying to encourage me that my babies look good, but they're going downhill. I'm not seeing any sign of the plants improving in color yet. If anything they're looking more yellow. They're just not as happy, green, large or robust as seedlings I've grown in the past. I know something is wrong. A mother knows!
Special Queen - She looks the best but I still feel like she's just barely getting by.
Skunk Haze (1)
Skunk Haze (2)
I think the problem is the seedling soil mix. I just don't know what to do about it. I'm praying it's not the coir, but I don't know. Everything I read said there was no problem swapping coir for peat moss, just to skip the pH adjusting amendments used for peat moss and all would be well. Is that true though? I'm wondering.
I hate to do it but, unless someone has a better idea, if I don't see improvement in the morning I'm going to very carefully transplant them into the large pots. The soil mix in those still uses coir, so if that's the problem I'm doomed, but it is a different recipe. Either the babies sink or swim. If they sink then I'm going to have to start over with the soil, which sucks.
And so help me I don't know why the yellow color isn't come through more in the pics, but I promise you it is there. The leaves are fading. They need food.
Edit: I should add that I would use bottled nutes at this point but I don't have any. I wasn't supposed to need them. *sigh*
Habitual
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They do look a little light in colour and seem to be a little behind in truth I agree.
A complete fert would give them some needed npk as your organic soil is still cooking no harm no foul??? I dont agree when people say seedlings have all it needs for the first few weeks of life, they need to try an inert media then reply back. Also coco is great added to soil.
JMHO
A complete fert would give them some needed npk as your organic soil is still cooking no harm no foul??? I dont agree when people say seedlings have all it needs for the first few weeks of life, they need to try an inert media then reply back. Also coco is great added to soil.
JMHO
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Fuzznutter
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Well the soil in the large pots has been cooking for well over a month now and it has a range of amendments to it. I'm fairly certain I read a month was long enough to wait before using. I think? I know I'd feel more comfortable using it on a slightly older plant, but it's what I have at the moment and time is of the essence. I'm concerned though about transplanting them at this age without damaging the roots.
Habitual
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I have seen and duplicated the veg part of a grow with just quality powdered milk.
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Fuzznutter
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Yeah, yeah, you all make organic look so easy.
Seriously though, would the milk be for calcium?
Habitual
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I dont do organic, But powdered milk has all the micro and such as fe ca mg only thing it lacks is N.
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Fuzznutter
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I'm going to have to make note of this. Thank you!
Habitual
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So whats your plan ? Up pot or feed ?
Reference material.
Recently David Wetzel, a Nebraska farmer completed a 10 year study on applying milk at different rates to his pastures, and recorded the results with the help of the local Agricultural Extension agent Terry Gompert , a university soil specialist, a weed specialist and an insect researcher.
What they found was amazing- the grass production was drastically increased; the soil porosity or ability to absorb air and water doubled; microbe activity and populations increased; cows were healthier and produced more milk on treated pastures; the brix or sugar level in the pasture tripled, indicating more nutrients were stored in the grass than before. Grasshoppers abandoned the treated pastures- the sugars are a poison to destructive soft bodied insects as they do not have a pancreas to process the sugars. This also explains why damaging insects leave healthy, high brix level plants alone, as they contain more sugars than the stressed and sickly ones
Milk works as fertilizer, says preliminary study
A proven solution is 20% milk – 1 cup of milk to 4 cups of water, or 2 cups milk to 8 cups water for larger gardens. Whatever amount you need, the 20% ratio has been proven to give the most effective results with the least amount of milk used. Add 3 Tablespoons of molasses to the milk spray solution mentioned above and use to feed plants seedling to the height of veg growth. foliar spray or as a drench.
Reference material.
Recently David Wetzel, a Nebraska farmer completed a 10 year study on applying milk at different rates to his pastures, and recorded the results with the help of the local Agricultural Extension agent Terry Gompert , a university soil specialist, a weed specialist and an insect researcher.
What they found was amazing- the grass production was drastically increased; the soil porosity or ability to absorb air and water doubled; microbe activity and populations increased; cows were healthier and produced more milk on treated pastures; the brix or sugar level in the pasture tripled, indicating more nutrients were stored in the grass than before. Grasshoppers abandoned the treated pastures- the sugars are a poison to destructive soft bodied insects as they do not have a pancreas to process the sugars. This also explains why damaging insects leave healthy, high brix level plants alone, as they contain more sugars than the stressed and sickly ones
Milk works as fertilizer, says preliminary study
A proven solution is 20% milk – 1 cup of milk to 4 cups of water, or 2 cups milk to 8 cups water for larger gardens. Whatever amount you need, the 20% ratio has been proven to give the most effective results with the least amount of milk used. Add 3 Tablespoons of molasses to the milk spray solution mentioned above and use to feed plants seedling to the height of veg growth. foliar spray or as a drench.
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Fuzznutter
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While the plants probably need the stuff in the powdered milk, they definitely need nitrogen. I'm afraid to just randomly start adding things though without fully understanding where the problem lies. Here are my options:
Option 1: Buy a department store brand bottle of nutes and use that at a reduced rate, at least for a few days until I can get something better delivered. This feels like a major fail to me though. The whole purpose of all the amendments and stuff I bought was to not use bottled nutes. What a quickly failed experiment this would be.
Option 2: Transplant the seedlings, ever so very carefully, into the larger pot with the more abundant nutrient sources and....
OOOOOOOH
Option 3: Feed them fish water! I've been holding out on this because I was afraid of burning them. Well, my babies have a need and it's time those dirty fish earn their keep! Yeah, I'm going to risk watering them a second time today with fish water. I hope it doesn't burn them. Talk about out of the pan and into the fire.
There is so much aeration in those cups I don't think the extra water is going to hurt a thing.
Option 1: Buy a department store brand bottle of nutes and use that at a reduced rate, at least for a few days until I can get something better delivered. This feels like a major fail to me though. The whole purpose of all the amendments and stuff I bought was to not use bottled nutes. What a quickly failed experiment this would be.
Option 2: Transplant the seedlings, ever so very carefully, into the larger pot with the more abundant nutrient sources and....
OOOOOOOH
Option 3: Feed them fish water! I've been holding out on this because I was afraid of burning them. Well, my babies have a need and it's time those dirty fish earn their keep! Yeah, I'm going to risk watering them a second time today with fish water. I hope it doesn't burn them. Talk about out of the pan and into the fire.
There is so much aeration in those cups I don't think the extra water is going to hurt a thing.
Habitual
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I vote fish water it will have nitrates. How is the drainage in those cups? I've never seen the double cup with gravel in the bottom thing.
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Fuzznutter
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Ok. Done. I watered them with full-strength water from my fish tank. It gets a 50% water change at least once a week so it shouldn't be lethal levels...I hope.
The drainage is great. In fact, I think it's way too much. I used a recipe that originally called for peat moss and just swapped the coir in. It has way more perlite and vermiculite than is needed, in my opinion.
Heh, the gravel. I didn't want the cups sitting in their own water if I was too lazy to drain them properly before putting them back in the closet.The pea gravel keeps the cups elevated out of the water and is easy to drain off the next time I visit. I had an unused bag in my carport so I figured why not. I'm using it for the 3-gallon fabric auto pots too. I have the pots sitting in a small cat litter pan filled with a thick layer of gravel to let the water drain.
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Fuzznutter
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I just read through this link. Now I'm more determined than ever to get a decent organic soil mix going. Then I need to grow some new favorite plants, clone the heck out of them, and run some milk experiments. Oooh I want to do this so much. Okay. These seeds will survive and I will figure this organic stuff out. Oh yes I will!
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