Greenman90
New Member
Hello my fellow green-thumbed friends, this is supposed to be a blend of grow diary and problem solving thread (for all issues that might arise) for me and newbies alike. This is not my first time round, but first time using decent lighting and seeds. Prior to this i have grown under the window using just sunlight, no nutrients and seeds found in what i smoked.. needless to say it was very low yielding - but great fun and smoke anyway.. and completely free not to forget 
My equipment:
Light: 600Watt HPS
Bulb: Phytolite Grow-Bloom Extreme; Colour Temp. 2075K; 90.000 Lumen
Dual spectrum (flowering+growth)
Soil: Universal Flower Soil out the supermarket
Plants: 12x "wild" seeds, picked out of plants found by the side of the road
3x Cheese (feminized)
2x Special Kush (feminized)
1x Easy Plant Autoflower (feminized)
1x Jack Herrer (feminized)
Room: Window-less Cellar room
ca. 1.5m wide x 2.5m long x 2m high (5ft x 8ft x 6.5ft)
Nutes: 1L Canna Veg
1L Canna Flores
1L Canna Cannazym
1L Advanced Nutrients hammerhead PK4/8 booster
The canna series came highly recommended by a close friend of mine, who produces some great bud. The Canna Boost was way too expensive for my budget (trying to keep it as low cost as possible) so i substituted it with the Advanced Nutrients Hammerhead PK 4/8. My friend also uses Canna Roots and Canna PK 13/14, which he only uses in very small amounts (Roots 0.3ml/L daily; PK13/14 only for a week just before harvest) - so but I bought what i deemed essential.
THE STORY SO FAR:
I was given roughly 200 wild seeds by a friend, who harvested some premature plants found by the side of the road. The seeds were all pretty small and underdeveloped, hence only 12 of them germinated. I bought an additional 7 feminized seeds from a seed bank. Luckily all 7 purchased seeds germinated, and all of the 19 germinated seeds made it into (so-far) healthy looking plants. I germinated them all in a kitchen cupboard using damp paper towels.
The plan is to keep the feminized plants in the grow room and move the 'wild' plants into the outdoor greenhouse once the weather gets warmer - a second grow so-to-speak - as an experiment to see the difference in quality, yield, etc. (and of course the ones in the greenhouse are effectively free) Until then they are vegging all together under the HPS. The 'wild' plants are also going to be my test subjects when it comes to topping, cloning, etc so i don't ruin my 7 main plants - as I haven't tried any of these techniques before.
Ultimately i'd like to keep 2-3 Motherplants for cloning-purposes for future grows (Cheese, Jack Herrer and maybe a Special Kush) and smoke the rest once done. i'm planning to keep the Mothers under a 35watt CFL (apparently equivalent to a 175w incandescent bulb) 2130 Lumen; Colour Temp. 6400k; once the time comes, for 18-24hours a day to keep them from flowering, and get the clones under the hps once the present grow is complete.
I am currently on Day 9 since the last seedling stuck its head above ground.
I set up the grow area in a windowless cellar room with an ambient temperature of 10-15 degree Celsius (50-59 Fahrenheit), which is why I have been running the lights 24/0 so far - as i do not know what to do to keep the temperature up when the lights are off. I would like to switch to 20/4 or 18/6 soon - but need to find some kind of heating solution first. With the light turned on, the plants are kept at roughly 23-27 degree Celsius (73-80 Fahrenheit). I am also yet to buy a hygrometer (to measure humidity), but it smells relatively moist down there. To reflect the unused light i have set up 2 large mirrors, as well as using 2 reflective heating blankets out of first-aid kits. I also have a fan standing in the room, that i have been running twice a day for an hour each interval on the lowest setting.
The 12 wild seeds were planted into small, ca. 600ml pots - which should hopefully do until they get planted in the ground in the greenhouse. From the 7 feminized seeds, 4 were planted into large pots (ca. 5-8L (1-1.5 Gallon) to avoid unnecessary stress by repotting them over and over. The other 3 were planted in the same 600ml pots as the wildlings.
I was very surprised by the different growth rates across the plants. The 12 wild seeds were the first to be planted. Followed (about a week later) by the 2 Special Kush, the Auto Easy Plant, the 3 Cheeses, and last (but certainly not least) Jack Herrer. All a day or two apart from each other. The biggest plant atm is the first wild seed, closely followed by the 3rd cheese that popped out the ground, Jack Herrer (that was planted last), and Cheese number 2. THE 2 CHEESES AND JACK HERRER ARE ALSO THE 3 FEMINIZED SEEDS THAT WERE PLANTED IN SMALLER POTS. So i'm concluding that planting seeds in smaller pots is beneficial for early growth. The other 4 feminized plants in big pots are doing well, but certainly not growing as fast as these 3. The other wild seeds are all coming along, but remarkably slower then all the others.
I water twice a day, after getting up and before going to bed. each time about 300-400ml shared by all 19 plants. Big ones more, little ones less.
Questions so far:
1. Is lack of fresh-air circulation going to be an issue? With the door closed the room is as good as sealed.
2. Anybody used the Hammerhead pk 4/8 before? Should I go and purchase the Canna Boost? The Canna Boost is applied in quite large amounts daily, whereas the Hammerhead only once a week, 2ml/L (I wasn't aware of that at the time, just thought it was a cheaper alternative)
3. When do I start feeding the Vega and Cannazym? So far I heard 2 weeks after the plant raised its head out the soil
4. When do I start with topping and lst (low-stress training)?
5. Do i have to treat the motherplants any different to the others while they are still all vegging?
6. How big do the final pots have to be?
Any advice, feedback and questions are welcome and greatly appreciated!
Sorry about the long post, I hope i didn't go into too much detail.
I'm having trouble taking some decent pictures, but will post some as soon as I manage to get some worthwhile ones.
My equipment:
Light: 600Watt HPS
Bulb: Phytolite Grow-Bloom Extreme; Colour Temp. 2075K; 90.000 Lumen
Dual spectrum (flowering+growth)
Soil: Universal Flower Soil out the supermarket
Plants: 12x "wild" seeds, picked out of plants found by the side of the road
3x Cheese (feminized)
2x Special Kush (feminized)
1x Easy Plant Autoflower (feminized)
1x Jack Herrer (feminized)
Room: Window-less Cellar room
ca. 1.5m wide x 2.5m long x 2m high (5ft x 8ft x 6.5ft)
Nutes: 1L Canna Veg
1L Canna Flores
1L Canna Cannazym
1L Advanced Nutrients hammerhead PK4/8 booster
The canna series came highly recommended by a close friend of mine, who produces some great bud. The Canna Boost was way too expensive for my budget (trying to keep it as low cost as possible) so i substituted it with the Advanced Nutrients Hammerhead PK 4/8. My friend also uses Canna Roots and Canna PK 13/14, which he only uses in very small amounts (Roots 0.3ml/L daily; PK13/14 only for a week just before harvest) - so but I bought what i deemed essential.
THE STORY SO FAR:
I was given roughly 200 wild seeds by a friend, who harvested some premature plants found by the side of the road. The seeds were all pretty small and underdeveloped, hence only 12 of them germinated. I bought an additional 7 feminized seeds from a seed bank. Luckily all 7 purchased seeds germinated, and all of the 19 germinated seeds made it into (so-far) healthy looking plants. I germinated them all in a kitchen cupboard using damp paper towels.
The plan is to keep the feminized plants in the grow room and move the 'wild' plants into the outdoor greenhouse once the weather gets warmer - a second grow so-to-speak - as an experiment to see the difference in quality, yield, etc. (and of course the ones in the greenhouse are effectively free) Until then they are vegging all together under the HPS. The 'wild' plants are also going to be my test subjects when it comes to topping, cloning, etc so i don't ruin my 7 main plants - as I haven't tried any of these techniques before.
Ultimately i'd like to keep 2-3 Motherplants for cloning-purposes for future grows (Cheese, Jack Herrer and maybe a Special Kush) and smoke the rest once done. i'm planning to keep the Mothers under a 35watt CFL (apparently equivalent to a 175w incandescent bulb) 2130 Lumen; Colour Temp. 6400k; once the time comes, for 18-24hours a day to keep them from flowering, and get the clones under the hps once the present grow is complete.
I am currently on Day 9 since the last seedling stuck its head above ground.
I set up the grow area in a windowless cellar room with an ambient temperature of 10-15 degree Celsius (50-59 Fahrenheit), which is why I have been running the lights 24/0 so far - as i do not know what to do to keep the temperature up when the lights are off. I would like to switch to 20/4 or 18/6 soon - but need to find some kind of heating solution first. With the light turned on, the plants are kept at roughly 23-27 degree Celsius (73-80 Fahrenheit). I am also yet to buy a hygrometer (to measure humidity), but it smells relatively moist down there. To reflect the unused light i have set up 2 large mirrors, as well as using 2 reflective heating blankets out of first-aid kits. I also have a fan standing in the room, that i have been running twice a day for an hour each interval on the lowest setting.
The 12 wild seeds were planted into small, ca. 600ml pots - which should hopefully do until they get planted in the ground in the greenhouse. From the 7 feminized seeds, 4 were planted into large pots (ca. 5-8L (1-1.5 Gallon) to avoid unnecessary stress by repotting them over and over. The other 3 were planted in the same 600ml pots as the wildlings.
I was very surprised by the different growth rates across the plants. The 12 wild seeds were the first to be planted. Followed (about a week later) by the 2 Special Kush, the Auto Easy Plant, the 3 Cheeses, and last (but certainly not least) Jack Herrer. All a day or two apart from each other. The biggest plant atm is the first wild seed, closely followed by the 3rd cheese that popped out the ground, Jack Herrer (that was planted last), and Cheese number 2. THE 2 CHEESES AND JACK HERRER ARE ALSO THE 3 FEMINIZED SEEDS THAT WERE PLANTED IN SMALLER POTS. So i'm concluding that planting seeds in smaller pots is beneficial for early growth. The other 4 feminized plants in big pots are doing well, but certainly not growing as fast as these 3. The other wild seeds are all coming along, but remarkably slower then all the others.
I water twice a day, after getting up and before going to bed. each time about 300-400ml shared by all 19 plants. Big ones more, little ones less.
Questions so far:
1. Is lack of fresh-air circulation going to be an issue? With the door closed the room is as good as sealed.
2. Anybody used the Hammerhead pk 4/8 before? Should I go and purchase the Canna Boost? The Canna Boost is applied in quite large amounts daily, whereas the Hammerhead only once a week, 2ml/L (I wasn't aware of that at the time, just thought it was a cheaper alternative)
3. When do I start feeding the Vega and Cannazym? So far I heard 2 weeks after the plant raised its head out the soil
4. When do I start with topping and lst (low-stress training)?
5. Do i have to treat the motherplants any different to the others while they are still all vegging?
6. How big do the final pots have to be?
Any advice, feedback and questions are welcome and greatly appreciated!
Sorry about the long post, I hope i didn't go into too much detail.
I'm having trouble taking some decent pictures, but will post some as soon as I manage to get some worthwhile ones.
