420's Soil Purple Kush Journal

[el cheapo]

Thanks for info. You're probably right. I have seen where people have had success with topping autos. I'll probably try it myself next grow. I guess personally I wouldn't top during first grow or if the plant has struggled a bit from the beginning.

 

[Scientific]

I guess personally I wouldn't top during first grow or if the plant has struggled a bit from the beginning.

Agreed. With autos I think it's especially important to get them thriving in that first few weeks of vegetative growth.

 

[Scientific]

Plants seem to have gotten bigger much quicker and the stems are definitely slightly thicker.

All good signs! These are hardy weeds and usually as soon as you correct whatever is holding them back they take off.

 

[Herbshuttles]

All good signs! These are hardy weeds and usually as soon as you correct whatever is holding them back they take off.

I'm going to wait to too until maybe 7 nodes or better yet until it's very healthy looking. I agree that right now would not be a good time to top. And 8 colas after topping once? I thought topping only splits one cola into two? That's interesting. Update on the plant: tips look sindged and I think I gave it a little too much nutes. Idk why GH has me giving them enough to give the plant nute burn; looks like I'll have to continue the mindset of little to know nutes.

 

[Scientific]

The theory I've heard is that manufacturers say to use lots to sell more bottles. 1/2 recommended is usually about right unless your grow setup is mega mega.

When I trimmed node 6, it stopped making leaves and the little growth nodes at the branches grew like crazy. Look at the summer deck grow in my sig file for details. The photos below pretty much tell the story.

This was a dwarf growing out on my deck that only got eight hours of sun a day from sunrise till 1 PM or so, but it did great considering--not the densest or most potent buds, but no electric bill either.

Snip node 6 21 days from seed

8 colas emerge (Fake flowers for camouflage for the neighbors)

Here's how they looked a harvest.

Before chopping

After chopping

 

[Herbshuttles]

Nice plants!!! Got to be satisfying getting them to fruition! This morning the plants were looking great! They still are however now the leaves are kind of dropping down. I haven't watered in 3 days but it's also grown 1-2 inches closer to the light so maybe I should raise the light? Not sure. I definitely noticed an improvement in growth since I started watering only once every 3-4 days also. Just some background info.

 

[Scientific]

Definitely looking better! As long as it's not showing any sign of stress, I'd would think that leaving the light where it is would be the best choice?

Looks like the stalk is thickening up. Do you have a fan on it to help the stalk develop some strength?

 

[Herbshuttles]

Definitely looking better! As long as it's not showing any sign of stress, I'd would think that leaving the light where it is would be the best choice?

Looks like the stalk is thickening up. Do you have a fan on it to help the stalk develop some strength?

Only signs that seem off about the plant is the yellowish lime green on that spindly plant (although the yellowish lime color has disappeared from all leaves except the new ones) and shiny looking droopy leaves on the healthier plant. Dropping started at some point today for some reason. Stilll looks healthy. And yes the stalks have gotten much thicker, I have a little fan blowing on them 24/7 which has done wonders for them.

 

[Herbshuttles]

So I checked this morning after thre lights turned on and the plant was perked back up. It's like once the light turned off it drooped; just to bounce back up once the lights turned back on. Interesting. I'm feeding them tomorrow, excited for that because the growth accelerated the past few times I fed.

 

[Scientific]

There are time-lapse videos on YouTube showing how much cannabis plants move around during the day.

 

[Herbshuttles]

Ok so here's an update. The healthier plant looks like it's about ready for topping, I may give it another day. It grew much faster than the other today, and is 19 inches away from the light while the other is 22 inches (you can tell the difference in one of the pictures I posted below. I'm wondering if something's up with it though because the top 2 nodes (newest growth) are somewhat shiny and curling up along the edges almost like how a slide is shaped. What could be the cause of this? As for the other plant, it almost looks like some of the leaves are too big for the stems to hold up and they are drooping. Growth is also slightly deformed (only one "little arm" on the bottom of the leaf instead of two. Not symmetrical in other words) and lime greeenish. Also, the little tiny leaves where the stems meet the nodes have gotten significantly bigger which I thought only occurs after topping, as you can see in my pics. Not sure if you guys have any tips or solutions but they'd be greatly appreciated ! Thanks in advance

 

[Scientific]

It's looking better. I think I'm seeing a little bit of hooking of the tips, which is diagnostic for too much nitrate.

Internodal distance is pretty high. I'm thinking it wants more light.

 

[Herbshuttles]

It's looking better. I think I'm seeing a little bit of hooking of the tips, which is diagnostic for too much nitrate.

Internodal distance is pretty high. I'm thinking it wants more light.

You are seeing a little hooking, I believe I'm also seeing that and maybe slight clawing. So maybe ease up on the nutes? I was already at half suggested. Also, should I lower the light then? It's only 19 inches away. And what about the curling edges/ shiny ness? Or the other plants deformed growth/ small leaves where the nodes meet the stems growing significantly bigger? Also why that plant isn't stretching as much as the other? Sorry so many questions hahaha I'm just trying to learn for the future to correct any errors

 

[Scientific]

Yeah, I would hold off on giving it any more nitrogen for a while. The hooking/clawing doesn't look bad, but it's there.

And yes, I would lower the light, and of course watch very closely for signs that the extra light is causing stress, but I think you could probably drop it down to 15".

I don't see the curling/shininess you mention, but photos aren't nearly as good as being there. (And white light is vastly preferable to blurple...)

 

[Herbshuttles]

Ok cool thank you ! And unfortunately the Vitrasepctar (or whatever they're called) lights don't have a blurple/white light switch. Instead I think they include all simultaneously.

 

[Herbshuttles]

Any clue as to why the tiny leaves near where the node meets the stem grew significantly bigger?

 

[Scientific]

Any clue as to why the tiny leaves near where the node meets the stem grew significantly bigger?

They're trying to grow into new branches or into great big colas!

If you snip of the top, they will really start growing.

All that to say it's normal for the growth tips to get bigger as the plant grows.

 

[Scientific]

And white light is vastly preferable to blurple...

Sorry, that was unclear. I meant white light is better for diagnostic photos. It's hard to evaluate under blurple.

I just read back through all the posts in this thread. I have thought throughout that you need more light, and I still do. Cannabis loves and needs lots of light.

 

[Herbshuttles]

Ahhh ok that's what I figured. I guess I'll move the light a little closer then! I'm just worried about heat stress if the light is close

 

[Ian Bastage]

Internodal distance is pretty high. I'm thinking it wants more light.

That is what I see as well.

Ian