Atrain's - 2 x Mephisto Genetics Sour Crack Auto - 1 x SS Auto Spanish Diesel

Aye, they seem to do pretty good stuff....I've done 4 of their RRF in hydro and have another 7 plants on the go in soil. Can't fault the seeds and am loving the smoke off the RRFs.

Just wish my soil ones looked as good as yours!

I took that feeding regime you posted in another thread a while back to my local shop and asked the boy for all the stuff on the list but he said it would cost a fortune and I was better off with a single bottle solution that a business had spent millions developing. I took the easy option for my first soil grow but am certainly not convinced it's better.
 
I don't go by that feeding schedule myself the guy at the shop is right it would cost a good bit. But you can be all in for 150 and do more than a few plants with the plan I made.

It's only Advanced Nutrients grow/micro/bloom 1L and a hobbiest level 250ml pack that consist of vodoo juice, b52, Big bud, and overdrive.

If you are more interested in that feel free to p.m me and I'll message you the way I feed my autos no prplobkem
 
Auto spanish D day 65 or so. She's bulking up nicely and leaves are turning. She's starting to show her age I'll begin the flush on her before too long.
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You grow these breathtaking plants Atrain! Amazing! :high-five:
 
Ok guys heres everything I can think of that I use to grow larger more productive autos, the nutes, material and the reasons behind it. (In my opinion)

Well start with the ROOTS. the first place to start is the pots and soil. I use smart pots but really any airpot or pot that forces the root system to air prune itself. Air prune with air pots essentially kills the tip of the root when it gets to the edge of the pot forcing it to branch out along the root stem and form a larger mass of roots instead of following the path of the edge of the bucket to the bottom and not branching as much. I also only use 5 gal and up. With auto's and any other mj the quickest way to stop growth and keep plants smaller is to limit there root growing space. So if you want small concealable stealthy plants by all means use a 1 gallon pot. I want them as big as I can get lol. I also germ and then go straight to final pot. I don't want my girls to be root bound by a smaller container for even one day. Imo that's one less day of flowering and with auto's every day counts.

I use pro mix bx with myco. Others are just as good I just prefer soiless mixes with little to no nutes so I'm in control of all feeds and how much, and promix is very light allowing those roots to travel anywhere they please with little effort . I add dolomite lime @ 1tbs/gal to help balance the ph to a neutral 7. Pro mix bx is a SOILESS mix and I feed it just above reccomended hydro ph and just below soil ph. So 6.0 to 6.2 ph feeds. Imo this allows me to feed @ 6.0 ph and as the pot dries and ph slowly creeps back toward 7ph the plant is able to absorb nutrients in all ranges in between.

I do not water to run off. For me nutes are too expensive to be running 10 percent of them off into a catch pan. Understand that salts will build up quicker if not watering to run off and allowing some salts to be washed away but we'll compensate for that later with a flush before going into flower ;)

I start seedlings for 10 days with plain water that I sit out and bubble for 24 hrs minimum prior to use to rid of chlorine to not kill some of the tings we are trying to put into our soiless mix. It also saturates the H2O with oxygen and the more oxygen getting to the roots the better. This also helps prevent root rot and other root destroying problems. I begin seedlings with 1/2 liter each watering as needed and only water at the root base straight to the bottom of the pot in attempt to get the tap root straight to the bottom as quick as possible. I up the amount of water used by 1/2 L as needed as the plant grows. Once they are drinking 1L of water a day I up it to 2 over other day or as needed and use the pot weight to judge this. If needed to wet the entire pot bit still gst 0 runoff i will use 2.5L per feed. I also feed every watering I do not use plain water til the flush

On now to the NUTES lol

Advanced nutrients grow / micro / bloom will be used from start to finish beginning on day 10 at a 1 / 1 / 1 ratio EVERY FEED I start the liluns out @ .5ml/L for the first few feed then go to 1ml/L for a bit to get them acclimated to the nutes. I watch closely and raise or lower my dose through to the end according to the leaves color and shape and the plants over all stance (hope that makes since) if the leaves are all nice green, flat, and pointing slightly up towards the light we are in business. The 3 part grow micro bloom will provide a plant with all of the BASE nutrients to live a healthy life but more will be needed as the plant needs more p and K during flower.also there have been many studies done that show the benifit of a plant having easier access to b vitamins and not using its energy to break down other components to generate it's own. Remember autos have a predetermined life cycle and anything that can reduce stress or allow the plant to put more energy into building flowers is a good thing. So I use the reccomended dose of AN B52 of 2ml/L for the entire life of the plant. Then the first 2 weeks of growth I also use vodoo juice as a root mass expander. A plant can only grow as big as the root Mass that feeds it. The root mass expanders place benificial microbes , bacteria, and fungi in the soil to let the root system thrive and break down old root mass to allow new useful growth. This is why I bubble or attempt to bubble out the chlorine that can kill these same things were paying good money to put into the soil. After 2 weeks I stop adding the vodoo juice since as long as your soil stays slightly moist the bacteria will thrive and no more needs to be added. About 3 weeks into it I add in a light dose of cal/mag plus from general organics and I follow manufacturer dose of light feed.

After the vodoo is stopped I continue to feed g/m / b, B52, and cal/mag until I get some pre flowers established. Not just see them but the them start to grow a bit then this for me is about midway through my grow
. So to prevent the salt buildup from locking out any nutes later I give the pots a good flush before starting my bloom nutes. I use 3x the pots area of water to properly flush then the last few liters I put in have normal levels of nutes mixed in.

Now i will begin feeding a new product, Big Bud. I will also begin using the vodoo juice again since the excessive flush may have disturbed our little tribe of bacteria i want to reestablish that.

So the FLOWERING NUTE feed will be g/m / b, B52, vodoo juice and Big Bud, usually by now I'm feeding 2ml/L across the board. Maybe up to 2.5 if they'll handle it. This is 1/2 recommended dose from AN.
The big bud will provide The added P and K needed to produce nice buds on your plants. Same as in Veg once we get the bacteria and microbes established again we can stop the vodoo juice. I now up my feed of cal/mag as well to a medium dose for flowering but watch for rust spots carefully some of these gals can be real hogs of cal/mag during flower and need even more than recommended heavy dose.

Ok once I see all verticle growth has stopped and some of the bud building begin to slow and get some cloudy trichs I switch out big bud for the last product called Overdrive. Overdrive is claimed to have a mix of things in it that will actually prolong flowering and keep the flowering stage building longer. I believe this to be true due to my sour cracks I see many many others chopping @ 60 to 65 days with amber trichs and since using OD on my plants I'm on day 63 with only a few orange hairs and not even all cloudy trichs and she's still building flowers.

Once I get to all cloudy trichs I begin to flush for 7 to 10 days or so but start it off with another actual pot flush to get any built up nutes and salts out that can cause bad taste in the buds .

Advanced Nutrients - Raising The Reputations Of Top Growers

I reccomend looking up each product here for exact benifit and if there are any other questions or I wasn't clear please let me know. Hope this helps someone and I have to say this is not all me. I am still a relatively new grower and I have learned this knowledge form hrs of research and watching other established growers do there thing and putting together a system that works for me but imitates them.
 
Top stuff dude:thumb:

Any comment on lighting? Think one of the places I went wrong with my indoor soil one was keeping it under a 125W CFL on 24/0 until it was well into flowering and then when space became available under my 600W HPS it was on 12/12. The ones I did in hydro were under my 600 on 24/0 for a whil after they had been rooted under the CFL then 18/6 and only had to suffer 12/12 for a week or so at the end. Hitting them with as much light as you can as early as they'll let you seems to work better.
 
I Def don't reccomend 12 12 if you want a yield on autos but anything from 18/6 to 24/0 I have seen some beautiful results. I prefer 18/6 all the way and use a 6500 k veg and 2700k flower bulbs when using cfl. Now that I'm using a 600w ballast I use a metal halide to veg and a hps to flower. If your using 125w cfl for veg keep that thing within 1 inch of the top of the plant 2 at most. The cfl loose pent rating power quickly through the canopy
 
Love the name btw I just imagine a kush smelling tie that I wouldn't mind wearing all day.

I highly recommend keeping your work shirts in the same cupboard you grow weed in......made my shirts smell awesome when I worked for one of them big blue chip companies bent on taking over the world. That bunch of straight pegged coffee drinkers didn't seem to know what weed smells like lol :)

I Def don't reccomend 12 12 if you want a yield on autos but anything from 18/6 to 24/0 I have seen some beautiful results. I prefer 18/6 all the way and use a 6500 k veg and 2700k flower bulbs when using cfl. Now that I'm using a 600w ballast I use a metal halide to veg and a hps to flower. If your using 125w cfl for veg keep that thing within 1 inch of the top of the plant 2 at most. The cfl loose pent rating power quickly through the canopy

Pretty sure it's a 6500K CFL in my wee cupboard but I got it 2nd hand. At the moment I've got 2x Greenhouse Seeds White Widow Auto and 1x ShortStuff Seeds Russian Rocket Fuel in 11L pots under it.....2 of them are going outside but one of the WW autos I want to keep inside.

The one I want to keep inside is just starting to unfold the 4th set of true leaves - do you think it's better to leave it under the CFL on any light schedule I want or put it under the HPS which is flowering photos for the next couple of weeks?

Trying to run autos when photos dictate my lighting schedule maybe wasn't the best idea after all. Don't think I'll pop any more auto seeds until I'm not going to be running photos so I can give the autos a decent run.
 
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Great info and thanks for sharing. have you tried any organic grows yet?,, I thought you were working on one. Im seeing 3+ on good soil, water and teas but I expect more as I run a few more and dial in. I'll save this info, thanks again.

Ok guys heres everything I can think of that I use to grow larger more productive autos, the nutes, material and the reasons behind it. (In my opinion)

Well start with the ROOTS. the first place to start is the pots and soil. I use smart pots but really any airpot or pot that forces the root system to air prune itself. Air prune with air pots essentially kills the tip of the root when it gets to the edge of the pot forcing it to branch out along the root stem and form a larger mass of roots instead of following the path of the edge of the bucket to the bottom and not branching as much. I also only use 5 gal and up. With auto's and any other mj the quickest way to stop growth and keep plants smaller is to limit there root growing space. So if you want small concealable stealthy plants by all means use a 1 gallon pot. I want them as big as I can get lol. I also germ and then go straight to final pot. I don't want my girls to be root bound by a smaller container for even one day. Imo that's one less day of flowering and with auto's every day counts.

I use pro mix bx with myco. Others are just as good I just prefer soiless mixes with little to no nutes so I'm in control of all feeds and how much, and promix is very light allowing those roots to travel anywhere they please with little effort . I add dolomite lime @ 1tbs/gal to help balance the ph to a neutral 7. Pro mix bx is a SOILESS mix and I feed it just above reccomended hydro ph and just below soil ph. So 6.0 to 6.2 ph feeds. Imo this allows me to feed @ 6.0 ph and as the pot dries and ph slowly creeps back toward 7ph the plant is able to absorb nutrients in all ranges in between.

I do not water to run off. For me nutes are too expensive to be running 10 percent of them off into a catch pan. Understand that salts will build up quicker if not watering to run off and allowing some salts to be washed away but we'll compensate for that later with a flush before going into flower ;)

I start seedlings for 10 days with plain water that I sit out and bubble for 24 hrs minimum prior to use to rid of chlorine to not kill some of the tings we are trying to put into our soiless mix. It also saturates the H2O with oxygen and the more oxygen getting to the roots the better. This also helps prevent root rot and other root destroying problems. I begin seedlings with 1/2 liter each watering as needed and only water at the root base straight to the bottom of the pot in attempt to get the tap root straight to the bottom as quick as possible. I up the amount of water used by 1/2 L as needed as the plant grows. Once they are drinking 1L of water a day I up it to 2 over other day or as needed and use the pot weight to judge this. If needed to wet the entire pot bit still gst 0 runoff i will use 2.5L per feed. I also feed every watering I do not use plain water til the flush

On now to the NUTES lol

Advanced nutrients grow / micro / bloom will be used from start to finish beginning on day 10 at a 1 / 1 / 1 ratio EVERY FEED I start the liluns out @ .5ml/L for the first few feed then go to 1ml/L for a bit to get them acclimated to the nutes. I watch closely and raise or lower my dose through to the end according to the leaves color and shape and the plants over all stance (hope that makes since) if the leaves are all nice green, flat, and pointing slightly up towards the light we are in business. The 3 part grow micro bloom will provide a plant with all of the BASE nutrients to live a healthy life but more will be needed as the plant needs more p and K during flower.also there have been many studies done that show the benifit of a plant having easier access to b vitamins and not using its energy to break down other components to generate it's own. Remember autos have a predetermined life cycle and anything that can reduce stress or allow the plant to put more energy into building flowers is a good thing. So I use the reccomended dose of AN B52 of 2ml/L for the entire life of the plant. Then the first 2 weeks of growth I also use vodoo juice as a root mass expander. A plant can only grow as big as the root Mass that feeds it. The root mass expanders place benificial microbes , bacteria, and fungi in the soil to let the root system thrive and break down old root mass to allow new useful growth. This is why I bubble or attempt to bubble out the chlorine that can kill these same things were paying good money to put into the soil. After 2 weeks I stop adding the vodoo juice since as long as your soil stays slightly moist the bacteria will thrive and no more needs to be added. About 3 weeks into it I add in a light dose of cal/mag plus from general organics and I follow manufacturer dose of light feed.

After the vodoo is stopped I continue to feed g/m / b, B52, and cal/mag until I get some pre flowers established. Not just see them but the them start to grow a bit then this for me is about midway through my grow
. So to prevent the salt buildup from locking out any nutes later I give the pots a good flush before starting my bloom nutes. I use 3x the pots area of water to properly flush then the last few liters I put in have normal levels of nutes mixed in.

Now i will begin feeding a new product, Big Bud. I will also begin using the vodoo juice again since the excessive flush may have disturbed our little tribe of bacteria i want to reestablish that.

So the FLOWERING NUTE feed will be g/m / b, B52, vodoo juice and Big Bud, usually by now I'm feeding 2ml/L across the board. Maybe up to 2.5 if they'll handle it. This is 1/2 recommended dose from AN.
The big bud will provide The added P and K needed to produce nice buds on your plants. Same as in Veg once we get the bacteria and microbes established again we can stop the vodoo juice. I now up my feed of cal/mag as well to a medium dose for flowering but watch for rust spots carefully some of these gals can be real hogs of cal/mag during flower and need even more than recommended heavy dose.

Ok once I see all verticle growth has stopped and some of the bud building begin to slow and get some cloudy trichs I switch out big bud for the last product called Overdrive. Overdrive is claimed to have a mix of things in it that will actually prolong flowering and keep the flowering stage building longer. I believe this to be true due to my sour cracks I see many many others chopping @ 60 to 65 days with amber trichs and since using OD on my plants I'm on day 63 with only a few orange hairs and not even all cloudy trichs and she's still building flowers.

Once I get to all cloudy trichs I begin to flush for 7 to 10 days or so but start it off with another actual pot flush to get any built up nutes and salts out that can cause bad taste in the buds .

Advanced Nutrients - Raising The Bud Weights And Reputations Of Top Growers

I reccomend looking up each product here for exact benifit and if there are any other questions or I wasn't clear please let me know. Hope this helps someone and I have to say this is not all me. I am still a relatively new grower and I have learned this knowledge form hrs of research and watching other established growers do there thing and putting together a system that works for me but imitates them.
 
No problem mass... well I had a little change I was going to run some full organic since I had a long period before I thought I could grow again. I started my compost from scratch and got worm bins going and all but then I had a change of cicumstance and was able to get the new setup you see here much faster than expected so I just went with what I knew. The organics were not abandoned thoug. I finished the compost and made a damn fine organic compost and added 20 percent worm castings in 5 gals and gave it to the wife. She has 2 habanero 2 bergundy okra and 2 tomatoes plants in them and they look amazing. I may go back that route in the future I'm Def learning the ropes with the veggies
 
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Love those Habaneros.. Nice plan. Thanks for the update. And the other material I've saved!
 
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