Harley001
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I think you have to feel it out I would definitely go light at first. A lot depends on what soil you are using too.
DharmaBud's First Grow Soil White Widow Auto & Silver LA-2013
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If you go really light on the nutes it could benefit at or around two to three weeks. But its risky and always advised to start at 1/4 strength no more to see what the plants do. In soil you need to wait a couple days to see the result of the feed. Your doing good and less is more.
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happy sativaday Dharma
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I am using FF nute Trio and a worm tea that my good friend Steppinwolf sent me.
Thank you shot, I am doing it carefully, except for the worm tea, I am using a quarter to half the recommended dosage. I will post pics again today, if I screwed up the plants should show it by now right? My WW auto has two leaf tips burnt from touching the moist soil and being on the nutes and water when watering, but that is all I have seen so far.
happy sativaday Dharma
Same to you too Chronich!!!
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Happy Sativaday Nephew.
I'm leaning on the side with Mc. be careful
I wanted to remind you two, that I have been reading both your journals for a full month before even starting mine, and another month before planting my first seed. Mac, one of the first things I learned I believe actually from you is start at a quarter dose. Well shit, that's what i did lol! I'm not blind to nute issues, and you both should know by now, I am too cautious to do something without asking first if I don't know what I am doing. I figured at 2 weeks old, these guy's could handle 1/4 nutes in a gallon of water, and the whole gallon was poured into the 5 gallon back. So it should have been diluted enough...I hope. I think time will tell, and I gauged that my plants were sturdy enough, hell they are just popping now!!!
I will always respect and consider both of your advise, so please don't stop giving me your opinions and such!!!
Harley001
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I thought Grow Big was Hot I started with 1/2 dose at the fourth set of leaves I really didn't track their age mostly I went by size
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I got some things in the mail yesterday, one of them was the PH/EC/TDS probe. I was dismayed to find that I can't just stick it in the soil to get a EC?PPM reading. I have no idea how I can test runoff from a bag that doesn't let any out lol!
The other things are some 2" net cups and foam inserts for the aeroponic cloner.
The other things are some 2" net cups and foam inserts for the aeroponic cloner.
there are other meters used to stick into soil they cost more and have "probes"
lol sorry I had to put that in quotes for some odd reson
you can use it for initial ph checking of your water or nute mix before you water you plants don't know how much that would help cause it might be more important what the ph in the soil is doing
lol sorry I had to put that in quotes for some odd reson
you can use it for initial ph checking of your water or nute mix before you water you plants don't know how much that would help cause it might be more important what the ph in the soil is doing
Gadfly
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Unless you went hydro on me somewhere in your 6072 page journal, don't worry about the PPM and EC. For us soil guys the Ph readings are the primary concern.
Remember, you paid top $ for top grade soil. FFOF comes Ph neutral, so you should only have to adjust your feed. Have your water, add proper nutrients when necessary, stir, test, adjust as needed, and then feed. You can test your runoff water to ensure your soil is in line, but I've never had a problem w/ Fox Farms soil.
Grab yourself some Ph calibration solution to check for accuracy and maybe some meter cleaner and that tool should give you what you need.
Remember, you paid top $ for top grade soil. FFOF comes Ph neutral, so you should only have to adjust your feed. Have your water, add proper nutrients when necessary, stir, test, adjust as needed, and then feed. You can test your runoff water to ensure your soil is in line, but I've never had a problem w/ Fox Farms soil.
Grab yourself some Ph calibration solution to check for accuracy and maybe some meter cleaner and that tool should give you what you need.
Steppenwolf
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Looking good Jeff! You have a good handle on things. In order to check ph of the runoff you would have to water with about 2 gallons to get a little bit of runoff. You will have to post some results with that meter. I've never used one. When I first started growing I was convinced to buy a soil ph tester by the local hydro shop. I was told "you have to check the ph of the water you put in the soil and the ph of the runoff especially in soil". Well, i used the stupid soil ph tester a few times and it always said 7. I ended up never checking ph again. Still don't. I did use the ph tester to prop up one end of a runoff tray. It worked really well for that. Lol
invi
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Hey Jeff!
EC pen will be nice to check on what you feed. Also you can pH/EC check your tap water or whatever you use so you know how much nutes fit in there and if you need to correct. Unless you only feed organics.
And why those bags have no holes? Arent you afraid of root rot?
I would make sure they drain properly to avoid root issues. Maybe i misunderstood something...
Girls look great, keep it up!!
EC pen will be nice to check on what you feed. Also you can pH/EC check your tap water or whatever you use so you know how much nutes fit in there and if you need to correct. Unless you only feed organics.
And why those bags have no holes? Arent you afraid of root rot?
I would make sure they drain properly to avoid root issues. Maybe i misunderstood something...
Girls look great, keep it up!!
with the nutrients when i was speaking with corey about how early to start when growing in soil, he said the feeding schedule he has online is to be followed from the time you first see the first set of true leaves growing, so bpn can be used very early on.
now in soil the plants can easily go 2 weeks in a small pot and 3 to 4 weeks in a big pot before they need any nutrients, i usually start feeding my plants around week 2, usually a few days after i transplant, but as long as you follow the feeding schedules you will be ok, their made to start at seedling stage which is when the first set of true leaves have formed, or as corey said it can be used as their forming,
other nutes will have different schedules but if they have a seedling stage feed then it should be ok to use this from week 2 onwards,
but soil can easily go 3 or 4 weeks without any nutrient depending on the soil, just stagger the feeds so just feed plain water the next feed or even 2 feeds and see how the plant responds, you will tell when it needs more nutrients as the leaves will start to go a lighter shade of green,
now in soil the plants can easily go 2 weeks in a small pot and 3 to 4 weeks in a big pot before they need any nutrients, i usually start feeding my plants around week 2, usually a few days after i transplant, but as long as you follow the feeding schedules you will be ok, their made to start at seedling stage which is when the first set of true leaves have formed, or as corey said it can be used as their forming,
other nutes will have different schedules but if they have a seedling stage feed then it should be ok to use this from week 2 onwards,
but soil can easily go 3 or 4 weeks without any nutrient depending on the soil, just stagger the feeds so just feed plain water the next feed or even 2 feeds and see how the plant responds, you will tell when it needs more nutrients as the leaves will start to go a lighter shade of green,
the only thing i test is the ph, testing the run off of the soil is not really a totally accurate way of testing the soil but tests are not expensive to buy to test the soil but ive foind ive not needed to test anything,
i very rarely use my ph tester, i used it a couple of times to check the ph of tap water then the ph of the water once nutrients where added, i found it was exactly where it needed to be so ive not checked it since as ive not had any problems to make me need to test anything, but id be kicking myself if i did have some problems and couldnt test but following the feeding guides should keep the ppms where they need to be, over doing nutes is possibly the biggest problem you may have so go steady with the nutes and the plants will show you what they need.
what id do is test the ph of the tap water, then when you next mix up some nutrients check the ph of that nutrient solution, then that will give you some idea of if its in the correct range, soil also acts like a buffer so ph is not a big a deal as it is with hydro, so as long as your within the ph range needed then you shouldnt have any issues,
i very rarely use my ph tester, i used it a couple of times to check the ph of tap water then the ph of the water once nutrients where added, i found it was exactly where it needed to be so ive not checked it since as ive not had any problems to make me need to test anything, but id be kicking myself if i did have some problems and couldnt test but following the feeding guides should keep the ppms where they need to be, over doing nutes is possibly the biggest problem you may have so go steady with the nutes and the plants will show you what they need.
what id do is test the ph of the tap water, then when you next mix up some nutrients check the ph of that nutrient solution, then that will give you some idea of if its in the correct range, soil also acts like a buffer so ph is not a big a deal as it is with hydro, so as long as your within the ph range needed then you shouldnt have any issues,
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Yes, I saw those and the price made me do a back one page to the next item on the list. Too much money for the grower I am.
Actually I was thinking closer to 2,000! I am seriously considering getting a couple of DWC 5 gallon buckets, air stones, pump, and maybe even a reservoir!
FFOF I was told is actually ph'd at 6.5 so that's why I originally wasn't worried about ph, because my water is 7.9 and with nutes, it would all work out in the wash.
Hey Wolf, good to hear from you, what about a little hole with a tube? I did notice when I fed it the gallon of water and nutes, some water did seep out, though not much.
Hey Jeff!
EC pen will be nice to check on what you feed. Also you can pH/EC check your tap water or whatever you use so you know how much nutes fit in there and if you need to correct. Unless you only feed organics.
And why those bags have no holes? Arent you afraid of root rot?
I would make sure they drain properly to avoid root issues. Maybe i misunderstood something...
Girls look great, keep it up!!
Welcome back, or should I call you new guy? lol! They are called smart pots. They look like a 5 gallon cloth bag. They release heat, aerate the root zone, stops root circling...Don't ask how?, and it air prunes the root structure...is that the same as playing the air guitar to AC/DC?
That's what I have been using it for is to check water and nute ph and adjust if I have to with vinegar, if it's too high. I did order PH up/down with my 400 watt apollo light, and a block of ona, cloning gel, and oh yeah my ez-clone 360 degree sprayers for my 5 gallon clone aeroponics thingamajigy I'm making!!!
cool, sounds like your well on your way to some very nice bud, with the ph up and down you only need very tiny amounts to drastically adjust the ph, so go steady if you do adjust,
your 2 plants look good right now. just be cautious with starting the nutrients and watch for burning on the leaves.
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Good weed sir. Any change in the two toed badger? I saw the family pic, just didnt know if the leaves are geting any bigger?
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Does everyone know what time it is? It's Howdy Doody MJ Porn time!!!! Yay!!!
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I wanted to show this close up so people in the know can educate me. Remeber when I FIM'd Gimli on 08/07/13. Well I thought I would get new branch off's for doing that, but to my untrained eye, I see just another to leaves started like I FIM'd 3 days ago? Can someone explain what I'm supposed to expect please?
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WW Auto-Lady Galadriel Day 18
Silver LA-Gimli Day 13
I wanted to show this close up so people in the know can educate me. Remeber when I FIM'd Gimli on 08/07/13. Well I thought I would get new branch off's for doing that, but to my untrained eye, I see just another to leaves started like I FIM'd 3 days ago? Can someone explain what I'm supposed to expect please?
Here is Gimli 3 days ago FIM'd
Here is Gimli today.
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