Far East Buds 1st DWC Grow

They Look happy FE. This could become a 5 star grow some day :bongrip:

Vlad

Thanks Comrade! I look forward to you checking it out. I am trying to pay attention to the details but right now its mostly cause I am watching a pretty slow process! I will be very happy when this one is behind me and I can say it is perpetual ;) *fingers crossed* Clones are looking good. Well they look like shit actually lol but better.. improving .. so I say good ..lol
 
Here is some shitty picture grow porn ;)

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Look at how there is almost a second canopy now like 12 inches above the trellis.
 
You should have been tying those tops down to the screen to fill it up and get the nodes on the branches growing up for lots more cola sites.

She's looking great tho. :thumb:

L8r
 
You should have been tying those tops down to the screen to fill it up and get the nodes on the branches growing up for lots more cola sites.

She's looking great tho. :thumb:

L8r

Thanks for looking and commenting on that. About a week ago I was tying them down but the stocks are almost too thick and fragile.
One top snapped without much force and I was not so happy :lot-o-toke:. So for the last week it has been strictly leaf scrogging and tying. Slight slight top scrogging.

Do you think I should continue scrogging the tops until the end? Any tricks just train it over time?

I have about 12-15 cola's still getting light and I seemed please but more and more do fall behind. I also debated a second net and doing a second scrog on top has anyone tried that?
 
Thanks for looking and commenting on that. About a week ago I was tying them down but the stocks are almost too thick and fragile.
One top snapped without much force and I was not so happy :lot-o-toke:. So for the last week it has been strictly leaf scrogging and tying. Slight slight top scrogging.

Do you think I should continue scrogging the tops until the end? Any tricks just train it over time?

I have about 12-15 cola's still getting light and I seemed please but more and more do fall behind. I also debated a second net and doing a second scrog on top has anyone tried that?

Ok so I went at it .. scrogg Ver 2.0 . I tied down the largest cola's the best I could for one day and ill readjust them tomorrow. The canopy is definately much flatter and all the cola's that where hidden are exposed much better. I guess I answered my own question. I think I am past the 15 cola's again. I'll let it settle overnight and get some pics tomorrow night. There's tie downs all over ;)
laters!
 
If a stem is a bit fragile I'll just roll it between my thumb and fingers to soften it up and if it splits open a bit it doesn't seem to hurt the growth of the top. In fact I've noticed that colas seem a lot bigger on damaged branches.

You need to tie the very tip down and not let it stand up a couple inches before you tie it down.

I also debated a second net and doing a second scrog on top has anyone tried that?

Do you mean a 2nd net above the first? The lower net won't get much light if any.so I can't see that working very well.

L8r
 
If a stem is a bit fragile I'll just roll it between my thumb and fingers to soften it up and if it splits open a bit it doesn't seem to hurt the growth of the top. In fact I've noticed that colas seem a lot bigger on damaged branches.

You need to tie the very tip down and not let it stand up a couple inches before you tie it down.



Do you mean a 2nd net above the first? The lower net won't get much light if any.so I can't see that working very well.

L8r

Thanks for all the info . Yes I did start scrogging again last night and was able to make a big difference with no damage ;)
I'll try to take some pics later. I need to continue more on it tonight. I was trying to go slow and let them train a little. Then I figured I'd force it more tonight. Some where pretty tall.

Thanks again.
 
8-12-2015 (61-52-30) 30th day of flower I am pretty psyched for that. I did more scrogging tonight. Man handled the girl a little rougher tonight than last night. Canopy is very even compared to before. I think I counted 18 cola's strong and now all the side buds on a lot of the plant are exposed. They should start to fatten now too! It's probably gonna take 2 more months to finish flower with all those buds but she is getting to be a beast. I originally was going to flower 4 in this spot.Look!

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I picked up the needed parts today so my compressor is running all my air stones now. I was putting 15l? through the pot now it is probably more like 30.:cool:

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Look at how much lower the canopy is than the previous pictures 2 days ago.Look at all the tying down everywhere.. looks funny. I am not kidding one stock does a literal 180 degree turn. Insane. I was overly concerned I guess. Thank you oldmeduser your simple small comment made me rethink it and it seems like it worked well.

Umm do I keep tying stuff down til the end or do I stop at some point with a scrog?

That was pretty much it I worked on some other stuff like my clones etc ill post that stuff on it's page and my blog. I'm sure i'll post more later too as it's early still :peace:
 
8-13-2015 (62-52-30) Daily update! PPM 1180 and PH 5.72 before I forget. More scrogging on the Fattee Lady :circle-of-love: I didn't do anymore stock scrogging as the canopy is still pretty flat. I just did a lot of leaf moving. I posted about trimming leaves.. defoliation. I am uncertain whether to do it or not. Day 30 so if I am going to now or so would be a good time. Some say do it some say don't. From what I hear or read I would be setting it back a week or so but would increase yield. I think I would rather stay on schedule and get the clones into flower on schedule. But as I get closer I may Lollipop it more like I did in veg. She is a pretty big plant so yield on this one should be pretty good. We'll see :wood:

Plant PORN!

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Right on!

That screen is starting to fill up now. When the nodes on the branches start growing up there will be lots more bud sites but she's already flowering so it will be buds popping up.

Don't remove fan leaves. They are your plant's solar panels and feed the buds better than just the smaller leaves in the buds. Doesn't slow down the buds if they are shaded either as the fans are feeding them.

Any stretch should be near over so there's probably not much use in tying down any more. Best to fill the screen in veg before flipping and then there's triple or more bud sites and with DWC they can get fed faster and better than in soil tho I have seen great ScroGs done in soil too. The biggest advantage with DWC is the faster growth in veg that helps to fill the screen faster. To bad it didn't cut down on flowering time too.

You should remove most of the growth under the screen to get as much energy directed to bud growth on the top. Just get popcorn buds under the screen. I sometimes leave some on for making a few seeds or have spots growing in case I want to re-veg.

L8r
 
Right on!

That screen is starting to fill up now. When the nodes on the branches start growing up there will be lots more bud sites but she's already flowering so it will be buds popping up.

Don't remove fan leaves. They are your plant's solar panels and feed the buds better than just the smaller leaves in the buds. Doesn't slow down the buds if they are shaded either as the fans are feeding them.

Any stretch should be near over so there's probably not much use in tying down any more. Best to fill the screen in veg before flipping and then there's triple or more bud sites and with DWC they can get fed faster and better than in soil tho I have seen great ScroGs done in soil too. The biggest advantage with DWC is the faster growth in veg that helps to fill the screen faster. To bad it didn't cut down on flowering time too.

You should remove most of the growth under the screen to get as much energy directed to bud growth on the top. Just get popcorn buds under the screen. I sometimes leave some on for making a few seeds or have spots growing in case I want to re-veg.

L8r


Thanks again for the great advice. When you say clear out some of the growth under the canopy , you mean the fan leaves and the smaller buds (unless saving a few to reveg etc)?
 
I debated defoling under it many times but have been torn on the solar fan leave thing. Any idea if each pair of fans are related to the closest bud site only? I also worried a bit about hermie/ing it. It has been strong so kinda was like should I? But I see the valid points on both sides.
 
Thanks again for the great advice. When you say clear out some of the growth under the canopy , you mean the fan leaves and the smaller buds (unless saving a few to reveg etc)?

Probably won't hurt to leave some of it until the fans go yellow as the plant sucks the life out of them and a few small branches but if there is too much then they are stealing energy from the rest of the plant. The lower stuff can't get light to make it's own food so it can steal from the upper part that does make food for the plant. It won't make it hermie removing leaves and lower branches unless it has some hermie genes then extra stress might make it happen sooner.

Leaves make food that circulates around the plant and is used where needed most. The fans on each side of a bud just add their stuff to the pool for the whole plant.

L8r
 


Probably won't hurt to leave some of it until the fans go yellow as the plant sucks the life out of them and a few small branches but if there is too much then they are stealing energy from the rest of the plant. The lower stuff can't get light to make it's own food so it can steal from the upper part that does make food for the plant. It won't make it hermie removing leaves and lower branches unless it has some hermie genes then extra stress might make it happen sooner.

Leaves make food that circulates around the plant and is used where needed most. The fans on each side of a bud just add their stuff to the pool for the whole plant.

L8r

Thank you OldMedUser you have been super helpful. I am glad to have you along for the ride. Shame I can't share some of this with you for helping ;)
 
Thank you OldMedUser you have been super helpful. I am glad to have you along for the ride. Shame I can't share some of this with you for helping ;)

It would be great Far East if we could just pop buds in the mail to send samples to each other for taste testing, swapping strains or fire some off to a friend in need without worrying about getting busted. I KNOW I grow decent pot and the few that have tried it really like it too. They are even less sophisticated than I am about pot so what is their opinion really worth? On Tuesday I was at my buddy's and he twisted up doob of some street weed he recently bought. Gag me with a spoon! Tasted nasty on the pull but the aftertaste was even worse. I took 2 medium sized pulls which is what I'll dose with when evaluating a buzz and the flavour of a strain. Got a feeling of lethargy more than a buzz and wished I had some mouthwash. He said he liked it. I'm sure it had been sprayed with something nasty and the chem taste was very strong. Not from nutes tho that may have been part of it but likely some bug spray or another.

He likes a couch-lock type high where I much prefer a sativa dominant type buzz to help with chronic depression tho a toke too much of a strong sativa can give me an anxiety attack and heart palpitations which is rather unpleasant but passes in 10 minutes or so. I grew Cali Mist for a long time that did that then crossed it with Northern Lights #5. The right pheno has the mood lifting buzz I love without the other side effects and another pheno has more of a sedative effect that is great for my insomnia and arthritis pain especially when used in edibles. I call it Northern Myst and will be focusing on breeding stable versions of both phenos first then auto and feminized versions too. No more messing around with getting the latest and greatest wonder weed coming out of a breeders imagination. I would like to grow out a few high CBD strains and see how they work for what ails me. Since my little stroke 2 and a half years ago getting high just seems to increase the brain fog that plagues me and isn't all that much fun anymore.

I'm always happy to help where I can Far East. I was a single dad for 10 years and it brought out that nurturing side of me I guess so it feels good to be able to help solve a problem with their plants or even get their first grow off the ground and to a decent harvest. I'm always learning new things too so it's more sharing than it is just giving.

:passitleft:

L8r
 


It would be great Far East if we could just pop buds in the mail to send samples to each other for taste testing, swapping strains or fire some off to a friend in need without worrying about getting busted. I KNOW I grow decent pot and the few that have tried it really like it too. They are even less sophisticated than I am about pot so what is their opinion really worth? On Tuesday I was at my buddy's and he twisted up doob of some street weed he recently bought. Gag me with a spoon! Tasted nasty on the pull but the aftertaste was even worse. I took 2 medium sized pulls which is what I'll dose with when evaluating a buzz and the flavour of a strain. Got a feeling of lethargy more than a buzz and wished I had some mouthwash. He said he liked it. I'm sure it had been sprayed with something nasty and the chem taste was very strong. Not from nutes tho that may have been part of it but likely some bug spray or another.

He likes a couch-lock type high where I much prefer a sativa dominant type buzz to help with chronic depression tho a toke too much of a strong sativa can give me an anxiety attack and heart palpitations which is rather unpleasant but passes in 10 minutes or so. I grew Cali Mist for a long time that did that then crossed it with Northern Lights #5. The right pheno has the mood lifting buzz I love without the other side effects and another pheno has more of a sedative effect that is great for my insomnia and arthritis pain especially when used in edibles. I call it Northern Myst and will be focusing on breeding stable versions of both phenos first then auto and feminized versions too. No more messing around with getting the latest and greatest wonder weed coming out of a breeders imagination. I would like to grow out a few high CBD strains and see how they work for what ails me. Since my little stroke 2 and a half years ago getting high just seems to increase the brain fog that plagues me and isn't all that much fun anymore.

I'm always happy to help where I can Far East. I was a single dad for 10 years and it brought out that nurturing side of me I guess so it feels good to be able to help solve a problem with their plants or even get their first grow off the ground and to a decent harvest. I'm always learning new things too so it's more sharing than it is just giving.

:passitleft:

L8r

Thank you for sharing all this with me. My wife has the same symptoms you have with anxiety and that is part of my future grow is to find a good CBD strain for her for tinctures etc. The way you explained it is exactly her explanation. She gets its from almost the same as you. One toke too many is all it takes. Then it isn't a cure but more of a cause. I am a very new but I do my homework grower. So in the future I hope you don't mind if I ask opinions on strains etc with you? Your experience in it is obviously in the area I need to research more. But by no means will I become a nuisance to you. Just ask your opinions down the road on strains etc and share what I may learn my self along the way is all. (starting to feel slightly corny).

Not to sound always redundant but thanks again for getting involved with my thread as well.

be safe!

FE

Food then test out my new shears and chop away ;)
 
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