First Timer - Soil - 600W LED - White Widow & Candy Cane Autos - 2x4x7 Tent

Day 72 (morning) - The show must go on.


Overview:
Temps 70-77f, RH 35-51% last 24hr in tent, 73-77f 34-43% in Miss Cane's drying closet.
Was water day for Mrs.Widow, she got a gallon+ drink this round, a few more lashings in attempt to open her up a little more now that there is some length wise room in the tent (width is still issue). Placed back in center of tent. Adjusted side lights a little to account for her new position, including bringing them down 2 inches as they are not as 'on top' of her anymore and I can aim better for the lower parts. Moved main light down 1/2".

Want to see how she reacts if at all to those changes next day or so.

Deadfall was ridiculous today (granted I'd not cleaned her out in 3 days), about 70-100!! dead\nearly dead leaves.

On to the daily porn and the water log:

Top Shot:


Mrs. Widow:



Afternoon delight that's been hanging since last night to try later:

Gonna eat lunch, then pop one of those in the microwave for desert... :)
(this is that crap I didn't count toward gram total)

---watering log---
Weight: ~12-12.25 lbs
Pre-Water: Nothing - no top coating of dolomite lime this round.
Water: ~1.0gal distilled + 1 liter ~950ml.
Mixture: 5.0 calmag, 6ml sugar daddy. | 1.25ml magical, 1.5ml sugar daddy
PPM: ~350ppm | 280 before ph'ing
Ph: Ph was ~5.5 ; ph upped\down it to 6.68-6.71.
Notes: The reason for a little extra water this time was a) higher than input ppms last time, and also wanted to make sure she was completely soaked through.

Wave 4:
PPM:1020 PH: 6.54
PPM:905 PH: 6.48
PPM:580 PH: 6.68
PPM:610 PH: 6.61
PPM:815 PH: 6.68
PPM:790 PH: 6.65 (tray)

Wave 5
PPM:710 PH: 6.55
PPM:720 PH: 6.36
PPM:960 PH: 6.46
PPM:670 PH: 6.56
PPM:765 PH: 6.47 (tray)

Total in: ~4700ml Total out: ~1300ml (~28%)
finish weight: ~19lbs
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Overall happy with exit water results, all samples were in ph range, ppms were bit sporadic\uneven though.
Next watering should be in 3 days with full blast nutes and will try and let it go back till evenings on water day.

Drying.. omg dat smell! Thank got I have the input air filter in the room that is helping to keep it from spreading. ;)
 
Day 72 (morning) - The show must go on.


Overview:
Temps 70-77f, RH 35-51% last 24hr in tent, 73-77f 34-43% in Miss Cane's drying closet.
Was water day for Mrs.Widow, she got a gallon+ drink this round, a few more lashings in attempt to open her up a little more now that there is some length wise room in the tent (width is still issue). Placed back in center of tent. Adjusted side lights a little to account for her new position, including bringing them down 2 inches as they are not as 'on top' of her anymore and I can aim better for the lower parts. Moved main light down 1/2".

Want to see how she reacts if at all to those changes next day or so.

Deadfall was ridiculous today (granted I'd not cleaned her out in 3 days), about 70-100!! dead\nearly dead leaves.

On to the daily porn and the water log:

Top Shot:


Mrs. Widow:



Afternoon delight that's been hanging since last night to try later:

Gonna eat lunch, then pop one of those in the microwave for desert... :)


---watering log---
Weight: ~12-12.25 lbs
Pre-Water: Nothing - no top coating of dolomite lime this round.
Water: ~1.0gal distilled + 1 liter ~950ml.
Mixture: 5.0 calmag, 6ml sugar daddy. | 1.25ml magical, 1.5ml sugar daddy
PPM: ~350ppm | 280 before ph'ing
Ph: Ph was ~5.5 ; ph upped\down it to 6.68-6.71.
Notes: The reason for a little extra water this time was a) higher than input ppms last time, and also wanted to make sure she was completely soaked through.

Wave 4:
PPM:1020 PH: 6.54
PPM:905 PH: 6.48
PPM:580 PH: 6.68
PPM:610 PH: 6.61
PPM:815 PH: 6.68
PPM:790 PH: 6.65 (tray)

Wave 5
PPM:710 PH: 6.55
PPM:720 PH: 6.36
PPM:960 PH: 6.46
PPM:670 PH: 6.56
PPM:765 PH: 6.47 (tray)

Total in: ~4700ml Total out: ~1300ml (~28%)
finish weight: ~19lbs
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Overall happy with exit water results, all samples were in ph range, ppms were bit sporadic\uneven though.
Next watering should be in 3 days with full blast nutes and will try and let it go back till evenings on water day.

Haha I love it....for desert .
 
Day 73 (morning) - Overslept


Overview:
Well I overslept but based on a 2am check before crashing... 70-77f temps, 34-50%RH; drying area 73-75f, 35-42%rh.
WW looked ok with the lights a hair lower, if I see the same tonight after full lights on then I may lower main 1/2" again...and repeat this process a couple more times till I'm down around 24" from tops.

Sorry no pics today, though really nothing much to report vs yesterday post watering, but if something new pops up tonight I'll snap some and update.


CC Harvest drying:
I checked the stems\branches just for hell of it today still bendable not that I was remotely expecting different. Though I have a feeling even though I want these to take at least 4 days (if not 5-7) they probably gonna be done by Friday due to low humidity...I added a bucket of water with cloth wick to the closet area.. not that it's gonna help much but maybe keeps it from going < 35%. Just feeling them\hangers a bit I can already tell they're like 1/2 the weight they were just 24hr ago.

Little tasting:
Those little popcorn\crap lower bud things I had in the tent... so I pulled the the most tiny one.. and after lunch yesterday looked at the tri's, amazing how much easier that manual scope is when shit is off a live plant, anyway post wash (just in case anyone was wondering I marked a few as tri-checks pre\post wash)... tri's looked basically the same and intact. This particular guy was way down low and super light green with pretty much clear tri's.. anyway I ripped it up and put in my now super cleaned bong ( That grunge off shit works wonders!!). Anyway it was harsh even with the iced up bong, as fully expected and I got like 2 decent hits off that tiny little mutant branch, mild head high that creeped in slowly 15min and lasted about an hour. Keep in mind I've not smoked for about 3 years, so 'mild' is relative to fact my tolerance is probably super low. :bong:

I'm off now to try a little more, same sort of popcorny thing, of the three little things I put aside for tasting while rest dries more properly first was tiny\shityiest, this one is middle guy has some cloudy and has a little meat to it at the top but doesn't even weigh a gram, the third (still in tent drying above light) has more on it and little top that is denser then first too probable is a gram without stem.
:Namaste:
 

Day 74 (morning) - Just another day grinding it out.



Overview:
Temps 70-77f, and 34-47% RH last 24hr..combo of less plant matter in tent now and high humidity in my area starting to only happen at night and not during their afternoon nap time. Drying area 73-75f 37-44% RH - not much more I can do other than ditch the fan maybe, the 44 high is cause for a few hours overnight I killed the ac\dry function to let the room gain a few % humidity, outer room was like 30%, later up to 36% when I kicked it back on.

WW continues to put on meat, starting to see a couple red hairs here and there, and little more frost, though she's definitely not going to be as outwardly frosty as Candy was, but that fits with most pics I see of late flower WW's, still little more has shown up last 48hr, though you have to look to see it. Lowered the main light again 1/2" last night just after lights on, also move the right side lights down a little (1"?) to sort of match and played with angle adjustment again. She's literally growing buds into the tent door and tent back no matter how I rotate her, so I've been rotating 180d every day to two particular ends that put the least growth at the door\opposite.

On drying front checked branches not 'snap' yet but they will break if forced, as for little stems they will break\snap, but not 'cleanly' yet.
Tonight might try a little jar test with humidity gauge and a branch or two for a few hours to try and gauge matters a little better.

The yellow deadfall continues, at this rate she'll have no fans leaves left at the end. Lower nutes didn't work, flush didn't really work, higher nutes hasn't really seem to help, though I'm sticking with the later with tomorrows watering. idk what else to really try.

Top Shot:


Mrs Widow (do I really need to label it anymore lol):

screams nitrogen to me, but I been feeding her more.
idk I sort of thinking of squirting 2-3ml of ff-grow big (veg food) in on top of my normal full dose mix tomorrow night.
learned something though... apparently I could put my used coffee grounds to use for nitro purposes too in
either top coat or tea form... yeah not gonna do that, but something I'll keep in mind for future, even though
'used' ones are supposedly about neutral ph vs unused being acidic I've had enough ph issues already to
maybe screw with it again.
 
Congrats on your harvest! :thumb:

About Mrs. Widow, isn't that just the natural senescence phase at the end of flowering? If I were you, I wouldn't worry and I'd let her use the nutes stored in her leaves until she's ready for harvest.

Total wet (+ leaves) : 637grams

Have no idea what that will mean for dried product...feel free to place your bets. I'm trying hard not to guess, but pretty sure I'll get at least a Z after trimming, slightly optimistic I may get two.

If I had to bet, I'd say 100-120 grams of dried product.
 
Congrats on your harvest! :thumb:

About Mrs. Widow, isn't that just the natural senescence phase at the end of flowering? If I were you, I wouldn't worry and I'd let her use the nutes stored in her leaves until she's ready for harvest.



If I had to bet, I'd say 100-120 grams of dried product.

She's been doing the entire flower cycle even a little before it though.
 
She's been doing the entire flower cycle even a little before it though.

Some of my plants did that too. I managed to stop the progression of the deficiency for some time after the flip, but now the problem seems to be back and I don't think there's anything I can do to stop it at this point, especially since it's time to flush anyway. They're at week 9 now, so as long as the buds keep fattening and maturing, I don't really care (and some of my plants have waaaaay less fan leaves left than yours). I think your plant will be fine! :thumb:
 
Some of my plants did that too. I managed to stop the progression of the deficiency for some time after the flip, but now the problem seems to be back and I don't think there's anything I can do to stop it at this point, especially since it's time to flush anyway. They're at week 9 now, so as long as the buds keep fattening and maturing, I don't really care (and some of my plants have waaaaay less fan leaves left than yours). I think your plant will be fine! :thumb:

Kind of where I'm at, I mean I still care...but not so much I think I can even do about it at this point. lol ;)
 
Yeah almost all of my plants did that very same thing. I only had two that didn't drop yellow leaves. One of them is the biggest and the other one was the smallest. Can not deduce anything except maybe that is just their natural course. Grow looks nioce!:goodjob:
 
Day 75 - (evening) - Time for a drink.

Overview:
Temps 68-77f ; rh 34-51% last 24hr. Nothing much of note different on Mrs Widow today in terms of progress.
She weighed 12.2lbs, and starting to show some droop, got gallon plus of water today. Lowered main lights another 1/2" as well.


CC harvest:
- Pretty sure I fucked it up. So last night as a test I put some medicine that was hanging into a jar and sealed it up with a humidity gauge in there. This morning (after about 12hr) it was only up to 44%. Checking all the harvest all but the unwashed buds were all cleanly snapping or just about so I said fuck it and jarred everything up with minimal (almost none) trimming. The one main unwashed stem was 'close' as well, so into jar it went as well. Boveda 62% pack went in with each. I'm almost certain all the washed product got below the 58% range and cure is stopped\ruined... that one unwashed bud...probably the same but slight chance it didn't get that low yet.
pfft... I knew\suspected I should have jarred everything up yesterday morning, big mistake I guess. Even with the packs in and a couple hours having gone by the highest is 52% atm. I'll check'em again come morning hopefully they come up the low 60's.

I smoked the rest of that set-aside stuff I had last night, had more kicked that the prior two little kernels, harsh but quite enjoyable.

Thankfully I'll be able to cure WW in the tent in controlled environment.

Now on to the daily porn and and harvest dry-weight total and water log.

Top Shot:


Mrs. Widow:


Well less dead fall than last time.

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Miss Cane in jars:

Bud photo is just a main nug from the unwashed jar ... I'll get some photos of the washed
shit tomorrow.


Totals (grams):
jar1: 17
jar2: 14
jar3: 12
jar4: 17
jar5: 4
jar6: 20
jar7: 11
jar8(unwashed): 14
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Total: 109 grams of barely trimmed bud.
so like ~3.7 oz, which idk.. looking at it doesn't much seem more than 2.5'ish to me looking at it though.
:woohoo:
BTW - these don't really match prior 'hanger' numbers, and yeah I could probably consolidate shit down to like 6 jars, only I wanted
to be super gentle since I knew I'd probably be opening these an pulling them out for some photos at later date. I think if I went on trimming rampage and snipped some stems closer probably total be more like 95-100. BTW I weighed everything (including resetting scale) twice cause I didn't really believe it at first. 1/2 of it seems very 'airy' to me, basically everything but what was main colas... not that I really care, other than how to get denser shit next time. I did not weigh the trim, can't be more than a few grams tops - coun't some of the saved other leaves.

Anyway ~3oz from that small plant? Wow I was not expecting that, high end of my original goal for her!
I keep saying to myself "3z's that can't be right??"
Down side... likely over dried it all...we'll see, FML.


--watering log---
Weight: ~12.2 lbs
Pre-Water: Nothing - no top coating of dolomite lime this round.
Water: ~1.0gal distilled + 1 liter ~950ml.
Mixture: 18ml bcBoost, 16ml bcBloom, 3.0ml awesome blossoms, 2.5 trive-alive-red; 5.0 calmag, 14ml sugar daddy. | 4bcboost;4ml bcbloom, .75ml awesome blossoms, .75 thrive-alive-red; 1ml magical, 3.5ml sugar daddy; *1ml FF-Grow Big*
:morenutes:
PPM: ~1560ppm | 1720 before ph'ing
Ph: Ph was ~5.7 ; ph upped\down it to ~6.63-6.66.
Notes: The reason for a little extra water is just to help make sure all areas are completely soaked through.

Wave 2 (gallon batch):
PPM:1670 PH: 6.58
PPM:1720 PH: 6.56
PPM:1710 PH: 6.61
PPM:1720 PH: 6.60
PPM:1680 PH: 6.55
PPM:1690 PH: 6.60 (tray)

Wave 3 (final liter)
PPM:1770 PH: 6.46
PPM:1780 PH: 6.51
PPM:1770 PH: 6.40
PPM:1790 PH: 6.48
PPM:1720 PH: 6.60 (tray)

Total in: ~4700ml Total out: ~1400ml (~30%)
finish weight: ~19lbs
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All in all no complaints, happy with exit results, they were more or less as expected desired.
---end water log



Other:
Ordered more jars and gauges and boveda's due early next week.... "We're gonna need a bigger boat!"
Well reweigh again tomorrow and get some more scale pics while doing it etc.
@Dinsdale - You were dead on with your 100-120 prediction. :goodjob::high-five:


Looks like I could lose power on Monday\Tuesday... and destroy my grow, damn hurricane.
 
Day 76 (morning) Overfeeding and BONUS grams!


Overview:
Temps were 68-77f and RH 32-51% last 24hr. Mrs. Widow decided to feast on her nutes, which were clearly way too much because she's suddenly 1/2 yellow tinted today, I'm borderline thinking of pulling some water through her again, but if I don't I'm definitely not feeding her again next water. Guess ~1400-1500 was about her limit. Frankly I'm not that surprised, I 40/60% expected this with that last 1700 liter as I knew 1500 was pushing it already.


Top Shot:


Mrs. Widow:



Candy Cane Harvest update:
I got MORE than I reported yesterday. lmao. Apparently I wrote "4" on a jar when I should have wrote "14", how I did that twice I don't know, maybe being high while doing it didn't help.

Today (not high lol) I reweighed everything a third time and took pics for each jar so there is no funny business. Also the 2 gauged jars show 59% and 63% as of this morning, I watched them slowly climb. They were actually both at 59% but I blew\huffed into that jar and closed it real quick (after I opened it to grab the gauge to show you guys how much it weighs). Anyway that it took 18-24hr for that pack to get it back up to ~60% is another sign to me that I clearly over-dried my harvest. booo! booo!


Pics:

The Zeroing with the jar\boveda's (452g\451g: 3 of 4 times it was 452 b4 zeroing) and showing you how much extra the gauge adds (26g):


Jar 1:

This kept reading 1 more gram vs. yesterday when it was 17?..

Jar 2:

Take the 40 subtract 26 for the gauge... = 14; same as yesterday.

Jar 3:

If I shifted this guy on the scale.. sometimes it would read 12.
But let's go with 11.


Jar 4:

Same as yesterday

Jar 5:

This is the guy who I recorded at 4g reading for yesterday somehow.

Jar 6:

This actually read 20 sometimes but I choose to go with new lower number.

Jar 7:

Take the 37 and subtract 26... 11 grams same as yesterday.

Jar 8:

This guy read 14 yesterday..

Jar Trim:


Everything:



So updated we have:
jar1: 18 +1g
jar2: 14 =
jar3: 11 - 1g
jar4: 17 =
jar5: 14 + 10 (typo when labeled jar, I guess forgot the "1" in 14 lol)
jar6: 19 -1g
jar7: 11
jar8(unwashed): 13 -1g

Updated Total: 117 grams..or yeah you know it's coming just barely... 4oz!
+15 grams trim.

Having said that if I trimmed stuff too be like final product I used to acquire it's probably more like 3+ as there is probably 5-10 grams of stem I could remove out of what's jarred and probably another couple in trimming sugar leaves closer. Still it was nice to find an extra 7 grams today. Kind of funny cause I was planning to dig into that "4" jar today and make it the "smoke for next week or so" jar... but now I have to choose another, probably #7 or #2.. (11g) so that I can move the humidity sensor to another jar.

:Namaste:


Also I think with the WW harvest... I'm gonna do three things differently.
1. Use the tent, and my humidifier if needed to keep it more like 40-50% RH.

2. I'm going to leave more branch on, I kind of cut each main branch into two sections before washing, I thought to better get water and later air flow around buds, but I think all that did was make them dry quicker and see now most peeps just hang the whole thing on one piece no matter how dense. Did make for easier washing though.

3. I'm not going to wait for them to get snappy, anything even remotely close and I'm going to jar'em with boveda's and monitor the shit out of them and just burp daily for couple days if needed.


Oh I forgot to mention, yesterday in a very half-assed 5min or less way did a little tric check on WW... like basically 100% clear from what I little could tell.
 
Day 77 & 78 Week 12 begins, Irma, and water day

Sorry I skipped a day, there wasn't much of note yesterday and I was busy with final Irma prep,etc.

Overview:
Last 24-48hr temps were 73-77, rh 34-50%. Lost power about 20 times but never longer than a minute or two and my UPS's for the grow did their jobs in that regard giving me a few minutes of run time. As of this post storms shouldn't in theory be taking out the power any more. WW looks like a disaster hit her though.

It was water day today, but she still weighed 13 lbs, guess she was consuming herself instead of drinking as much from soil it seems. Instead of feeding her, I just gave her cal-mag and sugar daddy, even though she wasn't dry I figured best to get some of the high nutes put in her last round diluted asap. I may feed her again friday, I may not, depends on trichomes, but if do will be more like 1200 and not 1700, and will probably be her last.


I tric checked WW again with the usb... 28 photos not single one clear enough worth posting, my best guess is still mostly all clear, got frustrated too cause power was flickering when I was trying it so just gave up.
Now on to the weed porn and water log.


Top Shot (post water):


Mrs. Widow:


Last three are with flash on.



--watering log---
Weight: ~13.1 lbs
Pre-Water: Nothing - no top coating of dolomite lime this round.
Water: ~1.0gal distilled
Mixture: 0.5ml awesome blossoms; 4.75 calmag, 6ml sugar daddy.

PPM: ~340ppm before ph'ing
Ph: Ph was ~6.2 ; ph upped\down it to ~6.6-6.70.
Notes:

Exit samples:
PPM:720 PH: 6.35
PPM:1020 PH: 6.40
PPM:1080 PH: 6.45
PPM:815 PH: 6.39
PPM:925 PH: 6.34
PPM:945 PH: 6.36
PPM:930 PH: 6.55 (tray)

Total in: ~3750ml Total out: ~800ml (~30%)
finish weight: ~19.xlbs
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All in all no complaints, happy with exit results, they were more or less as expected desired ph is slipping a little so next watering
I'll do a 2/3rd tbsp of dolomite again.
---end water log


- Also going to lower main light another 1/2" late tonight before bed, had not done that in day or two after all that yellow appeared.
 
WW is looking good. also, good info about your drying experience, that and the curing part is what I'm nervous about most. Lol

Thanks Kev. Also I should note, that the boveda's have all brought all the jars up to 60-63%... but like I mentioned I'm nearly certain that it was after the product already got below high 50's internally killing any real curing that will happen from that point onward. (I'm crying inside) I would think if that had not happened jaring them with bovedas would of had them in 60's in a matter of hours and not taken a entire day to very slowly climb. Next round I definitely would rather put'em in a day or two early and have to burp for day or two (even with the packs), than too late. Delicate balancing act with mold concerns too be sure.

Eh... you live you learn. I just underestimated the effect of <40% humidity, or maybe I had more far more airflow in the closet (no matter how gentle) than needed. I will say it was interesting that people said washed product would dry quicker, based on my own little sample of that one main cola I didn't wash and monitoring it, that did seem to be true, was about a day behind everything that was washed, so funny enough that one may actually cure right - throwing off the whole experiment of not-washing one to see the difference.

Still... from the jar I selected to pilfer from over the next couple weeks the smoke is doing it's job very well, little harsh even with the ice bong but a small bowl puts me into a very happy place for an hour or more, granted my tolerance is low as hell after not smoking for so long. Having very white ash, while not something I've never seen before, is cool to consistently see though, be interesting to compare that to when I eventually make it to mrs-unwashed-jar (whom I can actually still see hair and crap on - lol).
 
Try drying in a refridgerator at low temps and humidity, took me over 10 days to dry enough to jar them up with boveda. It will keep way more terps low and slow.
 
Try drying in a refridgerator at low temps and humidity, took me over 10 days to dry enough to jar them up with boveda. It will keep way more terps low and slow.

Yeah I've read about low and slow and was thinking of following chakita99's lead, I just don't really have the fridge space, considered buying small one just for this project but also decided I'd spent way way too much for this first try (I try not to even think about it cause it's embarrassing) already and that maybe I'll consider doing that next round. The moderately good news with the WW harvest is I'll have the tent available for drying this time around so I can keep things more toward the 70-73f and 50% RH level.
 
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