Koncept's DWC - Top LED 1200W Holy Grail Kush - Blzbud - Cotton Candy - First Grow

[ch4z1lla]

yea man ive like no extra space for dirt. i will be enlarging the area of my field but i can only get an extra 8 cm in each direction by lineing the bottom of my grow room with tarp or pond liner or w/e is to hand and then ill have around 65cm by 115cm by 10cm. This will also allow me to use 30cm sq pots(no idea wat L) as i currently cant fit them side by side in my 50cm by 1m tray that atm houses the field(sorry i have no idea where the quotation marks are on this thing...). So i currently have around 13L of soil per plant(i have 6 under 1 600w). and i think i can get it to around that 20l mark sometime soon...

lost again... no clue wat im tlkin bout... sorry if u got this far through my bad grammer and lack of puntuation...

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

yea man ive like no extra space for dirt. i will be enlarging the area of my field but i can only get an extra 8 cm in each direction by lineing the bottom of my grow room with tarp or pond liner or w/e is to hand and then ill have around 65cm by 115cm by 10cm. This will also allow me to use 30cm sq pots(no idea wat L) as i currently cant fit them side by side in my 50cm by 1m tray that atm houses the field(sorry i have no idea where the quotation marks are on this thing...). So i currently have around 13L of soil per plant(i have 6 under 1 600w). and i think i can get it to around that 20l mark sometime soon...

lost again... no clue wat im tlkin bout... sorry if u got this far through my bad grammer and lack of puntuation...

all is well, and i have no problems with the "bad grammar" and "lack of punctuation" (spell check FTW!) although this might be due to the fact that i read your msg's in your tone of voice....its very...urban.

but yeah i say, get some pond liner....i have some but will have to look for it...might have chucked it because it was so cheap.
but yeah hook that up and then rock the 30cm pot. if its the 30cm pot im thinking about
Height: 308mm
Base: 215mm x 215mm
Top: 300mm x 300mm
they can hold 18L....thats more than enough for a decent sized flux.
you have the space, you have the technology, you have the knowledge....im unsure if you could continue with the "nutes" that you use...because i have no idea how you grow weed with worm piss and bat shiz in the first place lol.

also will call ya later to arrange baby sitting for when im away haha

ok my update for today is coming in the next post!

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

ok todays update!

i dont like to double post, but i also didnt want to tie my update into a previous post.

i wrote this whole post and my laptop showed me the finger again and im now to frustrated to write the whole thing out again but here is the barebones.

lights on levels
RH 45%
temp 29c (84.2f) im working on getting this down but so far this is as low as i can get it while the doors to my grow are closed
water temp 19c (66.2f) pushing it a bit heat wise but as long as it stays at this or below i believe im cool

lights off levels
RH 55% THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!!! im trying so hard to get below 45% but cant without raising the heat to 32c ( 89f)
temp 20c (68f)
water temp....no idea i dont have a fancy water temp with a max/min to test the last 24 hours....just a cheap on that i have to be staring at all the time!

plants are now at day 27 of flower, i believe the stretch is over as im not amazed by growth when i open my doors anymore

ok picture time!

i have not taken any pictures of the blz as there has not really been any growth since the last update

i set out on this grow with the idea that all plants are equal...however...this is not the case....HGK RULES! i keep going to check on nice looking tops on either the cotton candy and blzbud and look down only to realise they belong to the boss hgk haha

nice little overview of all of them

some damage on a cotton candy leaf

and a few close ups of what i hope will become what we like to call...."bud porn"
all images below are from 2 of the HGK tops

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

OK guys, im going to be away until Friday evening with my family and so probably won't be posting any updates on their condition.
Mr zilla will be looking after my babies (and my cat) until then so I'm not going to come home to a bunch of dead girls.

Happy weedsday my friends, I shall probably still be posting on my subbed pages when I get time. Peace!

 

[Light Addict]

Have a great time with the family my friend enjoy!

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

Have a great time with the family my friend enjoy!

First time I ever been to the north of country...I'm a southern lad

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

ok im back guys
mr zilla did a great job looking after my girls, he actually paid them more attention that i normally do and had a report for everyday so i knew the changes, i know it didnt take place in the forums but +REPS for that my friend.
they are looking great, the stretch is over and they are now just concentrating on making buds.
im surprised at how frosty they are looking already, well the CC and HGK are....BLZBUD is just strange, but great node structure so no complaints.

took some pictures this afternoon and they have just finished uploading so i shall be posting them now.
my clones are currently in good health with mr zilla and he has them in veg so i can take clones from them in a month or so for my FLUX!

anyway...picture time!!!

overview

HGK

HGK

COTTON CANDY

cotton candy

cotton candy structure

BLZBUD structure

i did have more to say but im medicating at the same time and seem to have totally forgot what i was gonna say. so on that note....

 

[Light Addict]

Looking damn fine! Your lucky to have a pal like Mr Zilla, bravo to him!

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

Looking damn fine! Your lucky to have a pal like Mr Zilla, bravo to him!

with a dog, a cat and my 3 girls to look after leaving the house for any long periods of time can be quite difficult so he really did come through.
will be back to catch up on what i missed on your page tomorrow my friend....or even tonight if i can keep my eyes open!

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

Hey guys!!!

Sorry about the lack of action but I have been so concerned with my girls I have done nothing but search the interwebs for similar problems.
Anyway here goes (could just be me panicking)
Had some light burn on HGK, that's cool, raised lights.
The HGK buds smell like mildew...the trichs smell lovely and sweet, but the budsites themselves smell like mildew, its just the HGK and its just the top of the canopy it seems.

The water does smell a bit pond like and I'm having heat issues during to the fact the roots are too big.
When I smell the bucket I'm getting a slight pond smell even after h202 treatment.
Its in the scrog so I cannot remove the bucket to clean it.
Using the bottle trick keep temps in bucket down but its not dropping enough water temps are 20c (68f).
Still in my quest to drop RH, currently at 50% Max...could that be an issue?

Cotton candy and blz have no mildew smell coming from buds.
I'm hoping that's just the way the HGK smells at this stage
Never using a fitted scrog again!

Peace and love

 

[ch4z1lla]

never heard of those issues. never had them...
ill come have a look on thursday or friday.
and 50% is amazing with the current weather. my whole room feels like its about 70% constantly...
is the smell maby from cat hair?

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

never heard of those issues. never had them...
ill come have a look on thursday or friday.
and 50% is amazing with the current weather. my whole room feels like its about 70% constantly...
is the smell maby from cat hair?

There is a chance it's from cat hair...but I doubt it otherwise it would all smell of cat hair....shhhhiiiiid everything in this house would smell of cat food.
Rolling a j in Manchester the other day and I found a cat hair in it....100s of miles from the cat!

Currently flushing with RO water with h202 and I'm hoping that will do the trick

 

[Mars Hydro]

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

Plants smelling better after h202 flush, I still don't like the smell coming from the buckets but I have already added more than enough h202.
I have been taking photos so when my full update comes expect a bunch of photos!
Keep it green and have a great day people

 

[Light Addict]

Sorry to hear about your odour issues! !! My first thoughts would be increasing airflow through your girls. Get a couple 6 inch clip fans running from bellow, just above buckets upwards through them. This would aid RH as well hopefully.

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

Sorry to hear about your odour issues! !! My first thoughts would be increasing airflow through your girls. Get a couple 6 inch clip fans running from bellow, just above buckets upwards through them. This would aid RH as well hopefully.

I currently have 2 clip on fans, one below and one above...will pick up some more over the next few days, I'm looking at s big boy slimline dehumidifier but I have fun out of budget and am now on a shoestring.

Update

Mr zilla helped me with a bucket transplant of the HGK, the roots where just too big and the smell was like a pond with a slight hint of h202.
I didn't have a bigger bucket but I did have a bucket that was the same size and clean so we just swapped the buckets over.
The smell of all 3 buxkets is better after they had a h202 flush.

THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM!!!!!
My water is too hot!! 22c!!!!! (71.6f)
I'm doing the water bottle trick but its not dropping enough.

The air pump is pumping hot air into the buckets and I'm trying to work out ways of making the air that my airpump pushes out is cooler...I have a fan placed on it but its not doing enough.

Currently looking at ways to make water cooler but bottles only last about an hour until it melts

 

[Bolivar]

71 degree F water is considered cool around here...

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

71 degree F water is considered cool around here...

I thought anything above 66f was too hot?
Anyway the smell is still there and I will have to wait a day or two in order to find out how they are doing.

 

[ch4z1lla]

yo lemmy know wat the smell is sayin today.
hopefully just a hickup...
if it helps u could clean out the bucket that the hgk was in and do the same to another 1 maby.
Just keep up that power zyme for a bit

 

[Hiddenkoncept]

yo lemmy know wat the smell is sayin today.
hopefully just a hickup...
if it helps u could clean out the bucket that the hgk was in and do the same to another 1 maby.
Just keep up that power zyme for a bit

Thanks again for your help man, the smell is better but still a bit pondy. I was thinking, we needed to flush the roots out and give them a rinse. Not really possible in the scrog but if I get my RO sorted tomorrow I can rinse them with my hand pump, them pump out that water, repeat process, them add new soup.

One of the tops smells really nice on the HGK but the rest still smells bad, I think it could be sorted with the idea above which should be ok as long as I fix my RO.
I have put ice packs into each bucket and the temps have dropped to 18c so that's fine in my books, humidity goes up to around 50% which again I think is ok for now.

Taken more pictures but my good friend is home from a long stay away an I'm entertaining so no big update today but I'm storing photos for a huge update.

50-200x USB microscope cam arrived today BIGTHANKS TO KINGJOHN for his information on which camera he uses for close ups!!!

Everything was going so well until recently and not sure why, the water just started smelling and them the buds started smelling.
Possible reasons

Didn't change water enough (RO unit kept breaking)
Didn't clean buckets every other week like you should due to being stuck in scrog.
Water getting too hot
Humidity being above 60% at times
Vegged for too long so they do not have enough space in their homes
Didn't use the right nutes for my roots

Not sure if it's one of them or all of them.

Take care and have a green weekend