Icemud's 2018 Journal: Pine Tar Kush Pheno Hunt & More

Icemud · Jan 16, 2019

HiddenGrow said:
Hey Ice, How many seeds did you get from the last pollination?

I think you could be the Johnny Appleseed of cannabis if ya wanted to.

I don't even know... 28 gram baggies stuffed with seeds, I would estimate (based on seed size) each baggie could hold 150-300 seeds, so lets say 200 per baggie...

28 baggies x 200 = 5,600 seeds? I would say that's probably an overestimate but I would have to say at least a few thousand.

Icemud · Jan 16, 2019

Oh yea.. I don't know if I mentioned it, but I came across a pest I've never had to deal with yet in my 7 years of growing... whiteflys...

They definitely don't seem to be a huge threat. I sprayed my plants with a mix of neem oil, and spinosad and the next day I didn't see any... although spinosad is prohibited for use in most "legal" commercial grows, I don't see any reason why not to use it... its OMRI organic, its a biopesticide that naturally occurs in the soil via bacteria, it can be used on food crops all the way up to harvest, it can be sprayed or used systemically, and it is wide spectrum so it kills many different types of pests...

I also looked up the SDS sheet and the EPA even states with reasonable certainty that spinosad will not cause no harm to the population or to infants. It is very low toxic if swallowed, it does not cause cancer or reproductive harm, inhalation is unlikely to cause any effects, practically non toxic to birds, bioconcentration is very low, and the only thing that it is harmful to is molluscs and slightly to fish. It even degrades in sunlight and breaks down in soil.

Spinosad is virtually one of the safest pesticides to use on plants.. however, to be honest, they haven't tested it on "smokable plants"

I honestly don't understand why its even banned for commercial cannabis production as there are nutrients that are approved that are far more harmful to the environment and humans... yet spinosad is banned and they are ok.. figures.. right?

Anyhow, being a compliance guy in the legal market I have really started to become a freak when it comes to clean cannabis, however spinosad is one of the few "prohibited" pesticides I draw big question marks why its not allowed and I feel comfortable using it as it is effective against thrips, whiteflys, fungus gnats, aphids, spider mites.. you name it..!

Anyhow after a few days and only 1 spray I saw only 1 remaining whitefly, and they seem to have only attacked my Skywalker OG.. they must love the force!!!! anyhow they are on the outs... and my plants will continue to build some amazing genetic babies

yes!!!

Graytail · Jan 16, 2019

Be sure you eradicate. I had 'em and they adapt very quickly. And it's easy to disregard them because, as you say, they don't do much damage to the plants. But they'll keep coming back and coming back if you don't knock them completely out.

Big Sparks · Jan 17, 2019

Icemud said:
If everyone can wish my Dad a happy Birthday.. he reads my thread all the time but isn't a member on 420 mag.. His birthday was just the other day Happy Birthday Dad!

Happy late Birthday (Icemudds) Dad!

Icemud · Jan 27, 2019

Big Sparks said:
Happy late Birthday (Icemudds) Dad!

Thank you Big Sparks! My pops saw your post and it made his day! He appreciated it a lot!

Icemud · Jan 27, 2019

Hey everyone!!!

Day 31 Flowering in the Deep Chunk Project!!!

Well I have to say, things are definitely taking a nice turn in the project. Up until a few days ago I wasn't really seeing any trichomes on the Deep Chunks and when doing a nice brush of the buds, and smelling my fingers there was hardly any smell/terps that were noticeable. All of my "clone" plants are frosty and have tremendous terps but the deep chunks just weren't doing it so far. It seems that when I use "blurple" type LED's vs white based ones, it seems the blurples just produce more frost so I decided to take the 2 budmaster HPS lights out, and put in my Advanced LED XTE's which are blurple a few days ago. A couple days went by and definitely I see an uptick of more trichomes, so whether it was the light, or just that time in the period the deep chunks are starting to frost up!

I did a light finger rub on a few of the chunks today, and still very little smell at all, which is kind of disappointing. 2 of them definitely have a noticable old school kush smell to them, but the rest just don't seem to really smell like anything yet, so I hope this changes as we swing closer to the finish. (only mid flowering now).

Anyhow I still have been rotating feedings between organic and synthetic and the plants really do seem to like the mixture. I will definitely keep doing this for the upcomming seed projects as mixing synthetics is so much easier.. (with earth juice organics, it takes 48 hours to bubble to bring the PH up, and timing is extremely hard).

I also yanked the 2 male plants out of the tent last week. I have to say, so far the deep chunk males were the biggest pollen producers so far that I have encountered. These males literally every day were just releasing pollen like crazy, tons of pollen! I managed to get a little pollen in a ziplock bag, and cut the pollen sacks off and put them in a plastic bag with the top open hoping that they will dry and I can collect more pollen. If not, no biggy as I will have plenty of seeds to toy with in the future.

Also, the whiteflies are gone... at least I haven't seen any in a week or 2. I sprayed the girls with a mix of spinosad and neem oil and made sure to cover tops and bottoms of all of the leaves. I sprayed only 2x and it seemed to do the trick, spacing the spraying out about 1 week between them to allow for any larvae to hatch and then get sprayed.

Well other than that, here are the photos:

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