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[Taff12]

Talk about crappy.... I have a mars reflector 48 and still in veg 6 weeks. Defo looking to get something powerful (600 w max)
For flower hopefully.

I am growing one plant (will always grow only one because I live in the UK) for my younger brother who is a Lukemia patient so I want the highest yeild possible. Boy I was wrong about lighting but cost doesn't help as good lights are so bloody expensive.



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[Cultivator]

just switch for a 600w hps and get a 1.2x2.4m grow tent if poss. you can grow upto 48 plants in uk without prison. its broken down into categories and it gets quite complex really but ive been through the system more than once and know how it works.

4 plants under a 600w hps in 20litre pots would give you max yield with a veg of around 5 weeks from seed.

Are you making oil with the weed or is he smoking it? If hes smoking then stop that and get him on the oil, its way more potent and healthier and could help his battle.

 

[Cultivator]

Heres some images from another small grow i have. There are 13 plants in here in 22litre smart pots under 6 x 600w hps. 27 days from 12/12.

The strain is Dr Krippling Blue Cripple. It smells great but 2 possible 3 phenos in there, 1 of the plants smells like fresh mint and its really refreshing and the others are very citrus in scent.

Super healthy plants but struggling with head height , they getting real close to the lights and theres no where for them to bend. Next round i will do a double layer trellis and scrog the room. it will make it really difficult to get in the space once the trellis is in so i will install an Easy Feed gravity fed system to regulate watering.


Thats me on my hands and knees doing the watering lol. Plants could have done with a good pruning.

Enjoy.

 

[Taff12]

Yes...going to make oil. He likes smoking too because it helps him stop vomiting with all that chemicals they are pumping into him.

First time grower plus Space is an issue and funds hence the small grow. I have a 70 x 70 x 160 cm tent for couple of plants and the light I mentioned. With what I have a 600 HPS will cause more issues then help I guess. Heat,vent etc

Trying to accumalate the budget for a decent Led.

Thanks for advising about how much one can grow maybe a future project once it becomes all Legal here in the UK.

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[Cultivator]

you could run a 400w hps in that space. cost 100 quid for ballast and bulb and 15 for an open shade. for any decent LED expect to pay in excess of £500, the better ones cost over a £1000. But i wish you luck.

 

[THChoker]

Hey Cult, talking about light - have you had any experience using Orca grow film to reflect the light? Reason i ask is the tent i have is a secret jardin Orca tent. so was just wondering what you think of Orca - does it do what it says on the tin as such.

The whole reason i bought it was because more light = more bud....every little helps or that's what i'm hoping.

cheers!

 

[Cultivator]

Yes i like orca, i actually have a dozen or so rolls sitting there and keep meaning to have the space in the above pics lined. I cant speak for the tent but certainly orca improves light.

 

[Scoobynew]

Fook me this thread has stopped alerting me so when I come on there's always loads going on lol
Cult you tinker that looks like a attic grow
When do ya start using green sensation an do you stop pk when using it I've got some blue cheese with 2 weeks left an they ain't fattened up at all prob to late to hit em with anything to help any ideas
How do ya get it so ya journals come up under all your posts

 

[Cultivator]

yes its an attic grow, i try to avoid them though as alway have issues with temps and space but sometimes you have to work with what you can get.

I have no idea how you get post alerts. I dont get any, i just check my user cp.

The green sensation i start on week 5 on 8 week strain or week 6 on 9 week and i normally give it for 2 weeks and flush 7-14days depending on setup. Flushing will add weight to your plants. give 1 week green sensation then go to water, make sure first water has run off and allow to dry before next water.

 

[THChoker]

Good stuff that's what i was hoping for. I looked at the rolls and was originally going to build a room but then i found the tent which worked out the better buy. They rolls of orca aint cheap!

Superb looking plants in they pics, real healthy looking. well done

 

[Cultivator]

No they arent cheap at all! but i think its better than mylar. we did do some tests about 4 years ago as to light reflection between mylar and orca, i dont remember the figures but i know orca came out on top by a considerable amount.

 

[THChoker]

I believe it is better than mylar. I just watched a vid on youtube with them showing the difference orca makes. They have a light meter in the center under the lamp and the figure displayed on the meter jumped quite substantially when surrounded with the orca film.

 

[Ketama]

Good growing cult and great info sharing cheers

 

[AngryBird]

I believe it is better than mylar. I just watched a vid on youtube with them showing the difference orca makes. They have a light meter in the center under the lamp and the figure displayed on the meter jumped quite substantially when surrounded with the orca film.

HI the 2 of you
Add your growing to your signature so we can follow yours too

Good growing cult and great info sharing cheers

 

[Cultivator]

Ive had a lot of questions on nutrients recently so im going to list a full nute schedule that i use for Coco and Hydro growing. Im not going to list a soil feed schedule because there are variables that could affect what nutrients are used. Also 99% of my growing is hydroponic and I include coco in that so I will advise on what I do to get top results.

Before I make the list be aware that nutrients are way less important than light source and environment. I know alot of people grow on a tight budget but dont skip on a good light source. The video I posted yesterday explains about minimum requirements for growing and why. You want minimum 400w actual draw for a 4x4 square foot area (1x1m), yes you can grow with less but i'm not interested in growing weed with a torch or a 200w draw LED that claims to be a 600w equivalent. If you are growing even one plant make it the best it can be, its a long process to grow. Dont settle for an oz or 2 every 3 months as its wasted time and money when you can x6 that minimum just by using the correct source. A 400w hps would be the minimum requirement for me and my feed schedule represents a grow using adequate light. It stands to reason that a plant with less light will need less nutrient, just like a standard car will need less fuel than a Bugatti Veron.

So with all that said here are the schedules. You can omit anything you like additive wise but base nutrient is the most important. These are recipes that work for me and will vary depending on the quality of the water but anyone using water that is no higher than 0.7ec (350ppm) or using RO water should work. Of course try to never use tap water higher than 0.4ec (200ppm) if it can be helped.

The schedules will be based on 9 week strains, if running 8 week strains just finish nutes a week earlier. I never grow strains longer than 9 weeks now but a 10 week strain you would add 1 more week of the final boost. Strains over that will be different mix and I wont touch on that today.

I have got to these recipes over 15 years or so growing. Im not saying this is the only way but you will not fail if you follow these recipes and have adequate light source and environment.

My schedules will go off using RO water so a starting water of 0 EC (0 PPM) This will make it easier, you can omit calmag if water is of good quality and 0.3ec+ usually but its worth having incase it needs to be dded. If using water of 0.3 ec (150ppm) for example you would add that value to the value of feed i suggest. So if I suggest 1.0 ec of nutes you would add 0.3ec on to that making 1.3ec. Also the values will add up so for example if its 0.3 calmag and i add base nutrient then add it on to the 0.3ec. so if i say base up to 1.0ec that includes the 0.3 of calmag, in other words 0.7ec of base nutrient.

Finally a good EC/PPM meter is really important as is a good PH Pen, they will help you know exactly what is going into the nutrient mix and will be a valuable tool for diagnosing any possible problems. Never go off what the bottle recommends especially for anything that effects EC/PPMs.

RECIPE FOR COCO COIR.....

SEEDLINGS....

Jiffy pellets/root riot cubes/rockwool

Calmag (optional, use if water is RO) 0.1ec (50ppm)
SuperVit 1 drop/4litres water
H+G Roots Excellurator Gold 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1 scoop/4 litres
PH 5.5-5.8

Soak the cubes or pellets in the solution and wring out so damp and not wet, add the seedling. this mix will get the rooting started quickly and produce strong hairy roots. I transplant into a 1-3 litre pot as soon as the tap root comes out the bottom of the cube.


FIRST TRANSPLANT

Great White mycorrhizae sprinkled in the hole where cube will be placed or onto the cube itself.
CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect Micro Grow Bloom 1.0ec (500ppm) This is approximately 2ml/litre.
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
SuperVit 1drop/4liitres
Advanced Nutrients VooDoo Juice 2ml/litre (once per week)

PH 5.8

SECOND TRANSPLANT.....

Great White Mycorrhizae sprinkled in hole for transplant or direct onto rootzone
CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Advanced Nutrient PH Perfect Micro Grow Bloom 1.2-1.4ec (600-700ppm)
SuperVit 1drop/4litres
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre (once per week)

FLOWER PERIOD (START OF 12/12)

WEEK 1

Calmag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.4ec (700ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1scoop/10 litres
Advanced Nutrients sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 2

Calmag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.4ec (700ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Advanced Nutrients Voodoo juice 2ml/litre
Roots Excellurator 0.3ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1scoop/10 litres
Advanced Nutrients Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 3

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.5-1.6ec (750-800ppm)
Buddhas Tree Flower Burst 0.25ml/litre
Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 4

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Buddhas Tree PK 0.25ml/litre
Buddhas Tree Advanced Metaboost 1ml/litre
Sensizym 2ml/litre or Cannazym 2.5ml/litre

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 6

CalMag 0.3ml/litre (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Buddhas Tree Pk 0.5ml/litre
Buddhas Tree Advanced Metaboost 1-2ml/litre
Great White mycorrhizae 1 scoop/10litres

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 7

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.6ec (800ppm)
Plagron Green Sensation 1.8ec (900ppm)

PH5.8-6.0

WEEK 8

CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.8ec (900ppm)
Plagron Green Sensation 2.0ec (1000ppm)

PH 5.8-6.0

WEEK 9

First water to 50% run off.
Allow to dry until pots light to lift.
Water only daily. Enough so that its ready for more 24 hours later. DO NOT KEEP DRENCHED. Biggest chance of bud rot is now.
Flushing will clean excess salts and increase both yield and quality as it forces plants to finish.
Only water until harvest, minimum 7 days water.




Hydro is exactly the same as above with 3 changes.

1st replace Ionic Coco Bloom with Ionic Hydro Bloom

2nd Base nutrient EC/PPM at each feed can be pushed an extra 0.2ec/100ppm if required

3rd PH should be between 5.5-6.0 throughout.


In Recirculating Hydro PH swings are normal, allow some fluctuation as its better for plants to have a good range to uptake nutes. Set it at the lower end and allow it to increase. If it goes over 6.0 readjust to 5.8.



The recipe above is just one recipe that works well. Once you understand the plants needs at each period of growth you can adjust the feeds as going week by week isnt the most accurate way to do it but 100% this baseline recipe will give great results.

Finally in Coco and Hydro plants must be fed daily at least once per day. Do not keep media saturated ever. For Coco give enough liquid so plants are ready to be fed again 24 hours later when hand feeding. So plants should be light to lift but not completely dried out to the point of leaves wilting. Never allow it to dry out completely as the salts in the Media will burn the roots.


I hope this helps and if anyone wants alternatives to any products just ask.

Peace.

 

[Cultivator]

Some Coco grown plants following above recipe

 

[Taff12]

Great post Cult......going to make a list now

A little confused about the Base neuts from Advanced you suggested. Shouldn't the advanced sensi Coco be used for coco media? Since it is specific for coco.

Those are some yummy buds mate. Great work

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[Cultivator]

The PH perfect 3 part is a better nutrient and can be used on any media. I dont like the 2 part nutes from AN, I get the best results from the 3 part. it is possible to use the 3 part from start to finish also but using a bloom nute gives slight better results. Ionic is simple to use and effective.

 

[Taff12]

Understood. Cheers mate.

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[Cultivator]

No problem. Coco for me is the best way to grow, gives the speed of hydro with simplicity to grow. As long as you can use a PH and EC meter you are flying.